LotR book: >“Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!” >A cold voice answered: ‘Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shriveled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.” >A sword rang as it was drawn. “Do what you will; but I will hinder it, if I may.” >“Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!” >Then Merry heard of all sounds in that hour the strangest. It seemed that Dernhelm laughed, and the clear voice was like the ring of steel. >“But no living man am I! You look upon a woman. Éowyn I am, Éomund’s daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you, if you touch him.”
LotR movie: >Merry has to stab the Nazgul to weaken it first >HURR DURR I AM NO MAN
Yeah I agree, Tolkien could be a pompous windbag at times. Good catch.
Hunter Barnes
because that shit would be 10 minute scene gramps
Ian Long
DAE think these movies would be filled with yucky dark skins if it was made in the (((current year)))? XD shadilay bros
Isaac Perry
Yeah that would be gross lmao
>WAAH WAAH WE WANNA BE ELVES
Holy shit, just go fantasize about Wakanada and your badass African country with an American rap soundtrack LMAO
Carson Johnson
that dialogue would work in a play maybe but it comes across as too much for a movie these days
Austin Perez
Too long, you'd have to be stupid to think this would be an improvement for just a short scene
Benjamin White
Movie is unironically better.
Jose Smith
tolkien just doing a reasonably good version of what punchy dialogue sounded like in the iron age
Caleb Lopez
when your brain is complete mush
Samuel Hill
>Éowyn I am, Éomund’s daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin this is the important part, not le grrl power
Jordan Cox
Can someone post the one of this but with CIA?
Jace Robinson
I guess if you're too much of a brainlet to make that connection and need to have the characters explain their names and motivations to you every five mins
Thomas Howard
What's the matter fellow kekistani?? Don't you want to fight the nasties sent by Soros?!? Or are you a soyboy numale cuck sitting by as your ancestor's soil gets conquered by low IQ hordes?
Julian Torres
No offensive but that kind of dialogue in the middle of a battle wouldn't work in a movie
Henry Ward
>people actually defend the movie over the book Good grief, this board...
Sebastian Barnes
mid 90s kids will defend this because they were like 7 or 8 when they watched that trainwreck... Still didn't take the nostalgia goggles off to this day. But the cgi shitfest that was that final battle was worst.
John Bennett
>a television and film board prefers a film adaptation over the book good grief!
Justin Harris
We literally see her doing that we don't need her to say it
Asher Bennett
sounds like a typical bookfag
Dominic Martinez
when your brain is complete mush
Josiah Lewis
Look, I know they couldn’t have just put this in verbatim, it’s got an old-timey cadence and they’d already tweaked other dialog to be less formal. But. There is so much more here than “I am no man.”
First of all, he didn’t just threaten her with death. He threatened her with horrifying, endless torture and mind rape, basically. And she laughs at him. And then she stabs him in the face. What’s more? She makes him afraid before she does it because up until then, he thought he was immortal. Whoops!
I think you lose a lot of important nuance by over simplifying it to “I am no man.”
Jayden Taylor
>just because you use the Sup Forums board you're not allowed to admit that literature is superior to film YIKES!
Noah Mitchell
Lmao, imagine being this mad because there are no browns in LOTR
Feeling bullied homie? You'll always have Wakanda HAHAHAHAHA
Nicholas Long
BAKA I was told this was a Sup Forums colony!!! Guess I better dump the redpills on this soyboy infestation...
Robert Scott
>low IQ hordes literally invading the west is a fascist meme lads! it never happened in History before btw and Tolkien doesn't even refer to that at all in his books
Nathaniel Sanders
I disagree, he comes across with his arrogant statement saying no man can kill me, her one line is a perfect ironic twist for him to think oh shit rather than this fact to be lost in lines of dialogue, any more would lose its impact
Aiden Rodriguez
I enjoy both as different mediums
Cooper Moore
mush
Jack Martin
I could have lived with it, except for what comes after.
See, in the book, she’s falls over onto her enemy because he’s so evil that his death nearly kills her. She’s found later on the battlefield and they think she’s dead. Eomer is incredibly upset (understandably) and ends up going off in a foul, suicidal mood, where he and the other riders chant “death, death, death” as they cut a swath through the enemy. It’s pretty bleak.
The movie, for no reason I can fathom, decides that Eowyn can’t just kill the Witch King. Nope. After this huge showdown she also needs to be chased by Tumor the Orc, an enemy we got introduced to that isn’t A. interesting B. even in the same category of terrifying as the Witch King. He’s completely beneath her as a foe at this point.
So far as I can tell he exists so that Aragorn can kill him and “save” her, without actually knowing he did so. Which is just…weird. Why would you have this amazing moment where Eowyn defeats an enemy literally no one else in Middle Earth could have…and then have her crawling away from a generic, malignant orc in the aftermath? And why does Aragorn need to save her? What does this do for either character? Other than undermine her achievement, of course.
It’s one of the most perplexing character and narrative choices/changes in the films. What’s more: I don’t think it occurred to anyone that, along with making her overly lovesick, they inadvertently damsel’d her. For me, it’s a frustrating example of casual sexism creeping in. It’s even more frustrating when you realize Tolkien, writing in a time that was quite a bit less progressive than now for women, did it better. Sticking closer to the original narrative and character would have solved this issue neatly. It stands out as pointless and tacked on.
Michael Bailey
The movies are fucking trash and it makes me sick every time people on Sup Forums worship this shit.
Julian King
Homie chiiiiill
You still got Wakanda my nigga
The MCU will always want you AHAHAHA
James Reed
>there are no browns in LOTR There are, though.
Easton Brown
t. Low test soyboy
Parker Garcia
Probably because eomer was painfully under developed so they didn't want to confuse the audience
Jeremiah Barnes
I remember I liked Eowyn so much that I named the girl in Sword of Mana after her.
Daniel Brown
>He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured what did he mean by this... is he threatening gang rape?
David Gray
watching her get boned in Homeland was nice
>redheads do it better
Michael Gutierrez
screen time?
Liam Hall
Yes, actually. No joke.
Michael Kelly
Literally the only reason movies aren't longer is because theaters are very Jewish and want to have as many showings as possible for maximum money.
Eli Watson
i know... i would sit through 6-7pm to midnight for each of the movies if it was that long, but sometimes i have to go to work in the morning and sometimes i have come home at ~8pm
Gavin Foster
Well, remember Grindhouse?
John Rogers
the book version is overwritten
Jordan Cook
this
no one would be able to talk for that long without getting stabbed
Jackson Jones
Yeah, let's have a shitty feminist one-liner instead, so much better!
Charles Morgan
nah... im a europoor its hard to enjoy kino here.
Henry Roberts
>oh look, guyz! book has more content than the movie!
this board is almost retarded as Sup Forums
Charles Clark
Sup Forums's retardation has leaked all over this site and made many boards retarded. They singlehandedly ruined /lit/.
Joseph Murphy
*squelch*
Adrian Cook
I was with you until you suggested that mush makes a squelching noise.
Josiah Kelly
>They singlehandedly ruined /lit/. damn, everytime that I think in that something in me breaks...
/lit/ was great at the begining (6 months, maybe)
Jordan Myers
can't wait for this scene in the remake "return of the kang"
Ryder Long
Bro. The movie is like 5 hours long. You gotta be short sometimes
David Parker
Reminder that Kang is literally the name of a comic book character.
Jose Lee
>You gotta be short sometimes This is what manlets really believe.
Michael Gonzalez
you do know that game does not have the lotr license yes? thats why the name is so retarded and they tip toe around anything of relevance
You member when no one gave a fuck about that line back then? I member! A world before whinny Sup Forumsturds
Zachary Baker
Are you kidding? People loved that line. It's just that there was nobody to hate it and say UGH WOMEN
Jason Clark
Literally no one in this thread was complaining about her saying she was a woman. They were complaining because it came off as a Marvel tier quip instead of presenting the full dialogue in the novel.
But keep crying about Sup Forums like they trained you to do on /r/Sup Forums without actually reading the thread you mongoloid.
Jack Flores
>Richards then travels back in time to ancient Egypt c. 2950 B.C., aboard a Sphinx-shaped timeship, to become the Pharaoh Rama-Tut
Cooper Davis
>Squelching intensifies
Christopher Torres
Comics are great.
Henry Young
I've read the comments on /r/Sup Forums and they're all unabashed Sup Forumstards over there so I don't know where you get that idea. It literally causes me physical pain. Almost as bad as YouTube comments.
Jordan King
anyone who thinks they could make the terrible cheeseball dialogue in the lotr books work is a fucking moron.
Nicholas Watson
This. Many retards ITT
Owen James
>91125903 >cheeseball dialogue >greatest work of literary fantasy
So this is Sup Forums now. Huh.
James Phillips
greatest work of literary fantasy is like saying the greatest fast food french fries
fantasy is a terrible genre for manbabbies with no taste
Ethan Miller
>LOTR meme threads >turns into alt-right-shitposting including stale Sup Forumsmemes
Landon Diaz
>complaining about the dialogue in the books >when the movies literally have LOOKS LIKE MEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
Jonathan Moore
yea what they should have said is
"alas! we hunger no longer for we shall eat meat tonight!"
Oliver Cox
Or they should have said nothing because orcs don't talk you retard.
So you'll take time to read the comments there, but not the thread here?
Brody Nelson
You fucking idiot, have you even read Lord of the Rings?
The entire sequence where Frodo and Sam disguise themselves as orc, the bit in the orc-held tower. Fucking hell.
Logan Walker
Damn, that prose gave me tingles. I really need to read LotR
Jason Wright
I'm a different poster and I only took a very small amount of time to read those comments. I just had to chime in to say your interpretation of them is inaccurate because they're just as bad as Sup Forums.
Liam Gray
Daily reminder that this was the first post to bring up race you stupid fuck.
Colton Gray
WE
Asher Perez
It's a movie, If I wanted drawn out dialogues I would go to my local theater.
Justin Evans
Why the fuck would chandler be there
William Peterson
Sup Forumstards nad phoneposters need to bep urged
Landon Roberts
>It's a movie. If I wanted drawn out dialogues I would go to the movies. ?
Jace Cooper
Could there BE any more reason for him to be there?
(Seriously though, he's neurotic and quirky. Of course he'd be there.)
Brayden Thomas
It's trying to communicate. Is this Wakkanda? What do you want sir? Why did you try to derail the thread thee posts () in and pin it on others? Is this an initiation ritual for your tribe?
Gabriel Richardson
>imgur filename
You can't make this shit up.
Gavin Robinson
I like that you use imgur as a boogeyman but you probably have no idea what site this filename is from.
Gabriel King
>do it like OP suggests >movie is 124 hours long
Dylan Rivera
I'd watch it.
Benjamin Davis
>the movie is an adaptation of the book and not a 1:1 filmed version >*autistic screeching* WEW E W
Lucas Lee
>He said while submitting yet another transvestite thread on r9k
Gavin Taylor
>a-autism! Not ana rument.
Tyler Powell
Who on earth could have the time and resources to film every line in the books?
Camden Parker
>make a 124 hour movie for a fraction of the potential public >budget is accordingly low >absolutely laughable Z-series mess you wouldn't
Jose Moore
Literally a random filename I typed Wh yare Sup Forumstards so eager to lie?