I've watched all three lord of the rings movies in middleschool and hated them all.
The ring doesn't do jack shit except turn you invisible.
Those other rings of power were more interesting, like the ones that turned the kings into ring wraths,
Are the books better?
>Doesn't know how evil the ring is based on it's history
> Missing the point about how men constantly misused it because they always fell to ignorance and hubris
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You literally know nothing about the lore, dumbass
Rings all only increased what you were good at
The Master Ring had many powers, just chose to make you invisible (put you in spirit realm) so the wraiths could find you easier
In the hands of its master it made him practically invincible with its full powers
>You literally know nothing about the lore, dumbass. Rings all only increased what you were good at. The Master Ring had many powers, just chose to make you invisible (put you in spirit realm) so the wraiths could find you easier. In the hands of its master it made him practically invincible with its full powers.
see how much cleaner that looks?
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>The ring doesn't do jack shit except turn you invisible
if you eat the ring does it make your poo invisible?
>calls out reddit spacing
>reddit spaces himself
lol
there's a difference between aesthetic-spacing and reddit-spacing
Why so easily triggered user?
Lol what a bunch of dumb nerds.
if it made their master invincible then why did saurons finger get cut off so easily? in fact why was sauron reaching for Isildur? why didnt he just stab him?
pretty sure the whole sauron getting his finger cut off thing was a movie addition, in the lore the ring gets taken from his remains after Isildur beats his ass
Isildur is a loot ninja who lifted the ring from Sauron's corpse after his daddy and Gil-galad killed him (and died horribly in the process) .
Note that Sauron, as a Maia, is technically deathless but whatever body he creates for himself can be destroyed.
inb4 some idiot says that invisibility is a racial bonus unique to Hobbits, it fucking isn't. It is true that one can remain visible with the ring, the Hobbits couldn't do so because of some dumb video game shit but because they were too weak to master the ring, the same reason they didn't develop a telepathic link with the other ring bearers
LOTR is utter shit and made for boring white males who haven't done anything with their lives but the idea of elves arouses them so they go super gay over this shlock. Star Wars Episode 7 is ultimately better than both LOTR and Star Trek.
Understanding Lord of the Rings really comes from reading like 10 other books of backstory.
I'm the official Sup Forums authority on Lord of the Rings and its associated lore. AMA
Was Tolkien, dare I say it, a hack?
What's the largest amount of cum you have gulped in one sitting?
No. It's more like LotR was just the most pleb story he could release when he really just wanted to produce more myths and legends.
No I am you pedestrian wiki scholar and video game playing secondary.
>the ring doesn't do jack shit except turn you invisible
why didn't Frodo just fly the eagles to Mordor?
why are you so angry? have a (you) and a cute picture
why didn't Frodo just throw the ring really hard into the woods. there is no way anyone could find it then
Nice bait faggot
>Missing the point about how men constantly misused it
No men misused it. It's lineage is Sauron, Isildur briefly, Gollum, Bilbo, Frodo, Sam.
There is no record of Isildur using it, at all. Just that he had it, until he was killed.
Do you even know who Isildur is?
>Rings all only increased what you were good at
Lol no, this isnt an anime
The one ring had the explicit purpose of dominating the will of the other ring wielders, the hobbits turned invisible because they are so shit they were partially vanished into the ethereal
>you're supposed to give a fuck and feel some (??) emotion about Bilbo and Frodo traveling with the elves in the end, even though their relationship or the purpose or destination of the travel are never explained
Way to end 50h trilogy Hackson. Same goes for the relationship between Aragorn and the elf woman: never explained or transcendental to the plot, yet spends an eternity with drawn-out dramatic and romantic scenes literally no one gives a shit about.
the story being LotR is absolutely retarded. you don't watch it for the story. you watch it for the action
Harry Potter is the superior series to this 100 yr old gobshite about gay gnomes and gold rings that can only be melted with lava.
That's movie faggotry. In the books, Isildur's father and Gil Galad challenge Sauron to a duel, and defeat him - and get mortally wounded in the process. Sauron is also mortally wounded (his human form), and Isildur cuts off the ring with the shards of his father's sword (The one Aragorn later uses.) That seems to be the final blow to Sauron, but I don't remember if Tolkien said cutting off the finger was the final mortal blow. But Isildur did not just walk up to him and cut off his finger, that's Jackson's piss poor retelling of the real story.
Why did Sean Bean have to die in the first movie?
He was discount Aragorn.
The tax implications.
Not him but as far as I understand I think that the eagles or anything other than Frodo and Sam would have been viciously mind raped by Sauron if they got close to Mt.Doom and end up attacking them
>you literally know nothing about the lore, dumbass rings all only increased what you were good at the Master Ring had many powers, just chose to make you invisible (put you in spirit realm) so the wraiths could find you easier in the hands of its master it made him practically invincible with its full powers
how come sauron/saruman didnt even think of the possibility that people wanted to destroy the ring? they planned out everything except for the destruction of the ring. Its pretty evident that people know of the rings evil power, are the elves being selfish about the longevity their ring brings?
Because 1) it wasn't necessary. All flying would have done is save time, which wasn't important. If the Fellowship were racing against the clock they wouldn't have dragged their feet leaving Rivendell or have taken a month's vacation in Lothlorien. Gandalf and Aragorn wouldn't have taken 20 years investigating the origins of Bilbo's ring. Sauron was biding his time, until Aragorn goaded him on with the palantir his conquest of Gondor was still long off.
2) The ring couldn't simply have been dropped in the caldera, it had to be unmade in the forge, which was inside the mountain. The mountain that was guarded by an entire army encamped around its base.
3) The eagles themselves would have been susceptible to the ring's influence.
4) Sauron would have seen them coming.
>except turn you invisible
OP confirmed gay.
>how come sauron/saruman didnt even think of the possibility that people wanted to destroy the ring?
Saruman knew what Gandalf was up to. Sauron believed (correctly, as it turned out) that no one could ultimately withstand the ring's influence, especially not in the forge, the locus of his magical power where its temptation would be strongest. Taking the ring to the forge would have been equivalent to delivering it to him personally. Ultimately the ring was destroyed by providence since Frodo could not have done so himself. Once he was in the forge the ring was his master, as with anyone else.
it's trash for geeks.
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>tfw Bilbo is the real hero of lotr
The same reason Manwe freed Melkor from the Halls of Mandos. The Ainur are determinate beings, each created from a specific part of Illuvatar's mind. Just like Manwe couldn't understand Melkor's deception because he himself was incapable of it, Sauron couldn't understand why anyone wouldn't want to use the ring to dominate others.
read the fucking books, look for "war of the ring", or appendices, at least read the fucking wiki, moron.
The one ring improve all type of habilites, depending one which being puts on. The one ring is literally the power of the dark lord itself. You can live longer, can understand another beast are speaking, can enter into the dark world or spirit realm of whatever you call it, if you have enough power, you can command the dark army and get so insane force you could literally destroy man's faces as they were ballons.
Only cause of the high elves and Numenorian intervention, the middle earth were saved from embracing a long dark age, as indeed did Beleriand with Morgoth, and the high elves only could face Sauron cause of their rings, that even in fact they weren't infected and corrupted by Sauron/Innatar, they were afected and their power were decreasing over the pass of time.
I think the real question is which ring provides Gondor with an exemplary tax system.
feudalism never could be a exemplary tax system.
One of the Dwarven ones. Unfortunately three or so had been destroyed by dragon fire and the rest were kept by Sauron, who possibly gave them to the few Dwarves in his service.
Any good renditions of the eye of sauron in the books? We know it's there because frodo sees it but it's not described that clearly, just a red eye at the top of bara dur
you mean the world with women with beards??
Sauron was not an evil lighthouse. He wasn't an eye on top of a tower except for that moment when Frodo was tripping out.
Here's a picture Tolkien drew of the eye, anyway.
I thought the eye was a movie thing
in books the eye is more like a symbol, and is literally and burning eye in red color.
The revelation that Frodo got were more like a posession, with sauron mixing a lot of images of power and intimidation.
>doesn't notice when a thread is shitty bait
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>Far off the shadows of Sauron hung; but torn by some gust of wind out of the world, or else moved by some great disquiet within, the mantling clouds swirled, and for a moment drew aside; and then he saw, rising black, blacker and darker than the vast shades amid which it stood, the cruel pinnacles and iron crown of the topmost tower of Barad-dûr. One moment only it stared out, but as from some great window immeasurably high there stabbed northward a flame of red, the flicker of a piercing Eye; and then the shadows were furled again and the terrible vision was removed. The Eye was not turned to them: it was gazing north to where the Captains of the West stood at bay, and thither all its malice was now bent, as the Power moved to strike its deadly blow; but Frodo at that dreadful glimpse fell as one stricken mortally
Frodo had a vision of Sauron's eye atop Barad-dur but as far as it just floating up there all the time looking around at stuff yeah, that's Jackson's bullshit.
there's also a description of a strange red star like an eye at one point, i think when they're about to leave rivendell.
>re-watching Two Towers
>Helm's Deep
>literally child soldiers
Fuck, this movie is more depressing than I remember.
Actually a good question
Shit that's actually pretty freaky
>tfw instead of an aragorn vs sauron fight at the blackgates its just aragorn and a random troll
The former would have been the stupidest fucking bullshit Jackson could possibly have done.
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Agreed but didnt Elendil fight sauron? Or is Aragorn way less powerful than him
I know sauron appearing is dumb as fuck btw since he doesnt even have the ring, I'm more wondering how powerful Aragorn is supposed to be
Nigga what? Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Spacing after a quote isnt reddit spacing you dumb fuck
He was weaker than Elendil yeah and Sauron may or may not have even had a physical body at the time of LotR. As for as the movie is concerned he definitely didn't because Saruman said so.
I've just started re-reading LOTR after the hobbit for the first time in years, is Sauron never revealed whether he has a form or not during lotr? aside from the red eye thing above, not that we have an idea even how big it is
>is Sauron never revealed whether he has a form or not during lotr?
No, it's left pretty vague. Gollum says that Sauron has only nine fingers but we don't know if this is because he actually saw Sauron's body with its one mutilated hand or if he just saw some kind of illusion or projection of Sauron's form. For a Maia to create a hroa or physical body takes a serious investment of energy, losing it leaves them permanently weakened.
He's probably just a Maiar spirit, but once he comes in possession of the ring he manifests a body?
Wait was sauron muslim?
You are objectively incorrect.
why would sauron show gollum a projection of himself though?
To torture him, the same reason he exposed himself to Pippin through the palantir.
They filmed a scene of biggie va sauron but it looked fucking stupid because early 2000 cgi
>For a Maia to create a hroa or physical body takes a serious investment of energy, losing it leaves them permanently weakened.
that's not entirely true, that was because of the curse he inherited in the times of Numenor, when Eru cursed him for being such a bitch in those days, he could not longer portrait a "beautiful appearance", or take possesion of a body, that's why the ring gives so much power to destroy everything, even when the armor is basically and empty shell.
he never miss a opportunity to torture someone, specially when he's a suspected to be a ring-bearer. But he projects the aspect he thinks that could inspire more fear and intimidating
Tailon is the true hero of middle earth. He sacrificed himself to hold back Saurons army for decades to buy Man some time for the war.
I can't believe the plot to shadow of war was actually more retarded than I was expecting
It was better than the boring 12 hours of walking and talking shit show that was the movies.
Literally everyone who hates on Talions story is jealous that we actually get an exciting and interesting protagonist that BTFO's the movies in every aspect.
Kill yourself.
So much misinformation ITT I'm not sure where to start, couple points
Sauron has a physical form, Tolkien said that if he had been sure the ring was at weathertop he would have come himself, also this fucking
>the ring enhances natural attributes that's why it made hobbits invisible cause their sneaky
meme needs to stop, the ring pulled the wearer into the wraith world that's why frodo could see the wraiths when he wore it, it was a byproduct that would happen to anyone wearing it unless they could control it. The rings power is kinda vague but essentially it gave the wearer dominion over others, frodo made gollum swear on the ring and once threatened to put it on and order gollum to kill himself
The ring's powers depend on the strength of mind, will, and the overall attributes of the wearer. A powerful elf, man of numenorian descent, or a Valar could conceivable with enough practice wrestle control of the ring from Sauron and assert their will over it.
What the ring does depends largely on what your "power level" is before you put on the ring. One of the reason Gandalf let Frodo carry the ring was because he was a Hobbit and Hobbits are shit. Because Hobbits have such a low "power" all the ring does for them is corrupt them, make them invisible and the ring tries to find a new master (hence why the Frodo putting on the ring alerts the ring wraiths to it's location).
Again with the natural attributes nonsense, it had the power of sauron 'domination' sure someone else could conceivably control it but in the end they'd just become a new sauron with a different name
Nope its because hobbits were so 'good' it took ages for them to be corrupted, he says this multiple times not sure where your getting that 'power level' nonsense from