Disney is turning Star Wars into a clusterfuck

Let's face it, they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. Kathleen Kennedy, her story group and all over hacks involved are just needlessly throwing in reference after reference for the sake of having a reference to please the hardcore Star Wars nerds while ignoring what made Star Wars so easily watchable and timeless in the first place.

I bet you (and screenshot this if you want) that both the originals and prequels will outlive the shit that Disney is doing all because of one word: Simplicity. It's driving the story's complexity and sophistication.

What is Disney is doing on the other hand?
>Kyber crystals
>Lightsaber crystals match the Force power of one, but Sith Lords squeeze it red! xD
>A force tree
>le Force sister and brother fought, created the light side and dark side! xD
>Snoke is a product of Palpatine.... Or.... he maybe legitimate?
>Oh Return of the Jedi showed a positive future? Well we have the First Order. Where it came from? How did it start? LOL IDK!
>Anakin's lightsaber, given to Luke, is lost forever in the clouds of Bespin? Not anymore!
>The Starkiller is a literal Death Star in a fucking planet.
>Rey is the child of whoever but is more powerful than the galaxy and all those who in lived in it

Whatever happened to the simple, straight stories of
>The Force, powered by the midichlorians within Force users, binds everything together
>Rebels vs Empire. A farmboy growing up to fight off his father, a henchman of the evil Emperor
>A slave boy growing up to become a Jedi, only to be haunted by his Chosen One status, which pits him between Palpatine and the Jedi who are weary of him.

I have no fucking clue on how to distill the new Disney Wars shit because they're so convoluted with their plotlines, characters and bullshit asspull references that make no sense.

There's a reason why Lucas didn't want to include EU shit to please fans: Because most of it clashes and makes no fucking sense!

What the fuck are they doing?

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They offer nothing "new" to Star Wars.

>Rogue 1 introduced like 20 completely needless characters

Their game is pretty transparent 2bh.

You don't know shit about SW. They're all GL ideas, some of them predating even TESB.
Also, the PT wasn't simple at all. It was a clusterfuck of ideas exploding all over the place.

>Ha ha! Let's just blame Lucas for all of Disney's stupid ideas! He made the prequels... which.... which sucked! lol! xD

You know, I didn't remember the blue lightsaber fell when Luke lost his hand on Bespin and now it randomly showed up in Force Awakens. That is annoying me. The whole movie sucked ass from the standpoint of how imcompetent the Empire and it's soldiers are. Single tie wipes out a garrison while roped to a hanger and is able to wipe out 90 percent of a Star Destroyer's cannons while escaping? Then said Tie's lose a battle on the surface of the Starkiller base despite vastly outnumbering the squadron sent to blow it up? And pic related.

They're all bad versions of Lucas and EU ideas though. Disney can't into originality.
People kept saying SW7 was just A New Hope, but it was a lso full of shit taken from the EU and used in a worst way. And that's saying something when the EU gace us Triclops and Luuuke.

Well, yes, what seems to make the first trilogy so timeless is that it condenses the most basic tropes in one simple movie.

I doubt trying to make it more convoluted that it is will work for it.

Disney should have launched their own franchise with partial references to the Star Wars universe, using past history and the Force as the backbone for something completely new.

>The Force, powered by the midichlorians within Force users, binds everything together

This is not how it works, the Force is a indefinite mystical energy that is everywhere, but only those with enough midichlorians can sense ans use it.

>Lucas
>Kurosawa and Joseph Campbell

>Story Group
>fans of fandom

Why do you want to blame Lucas for episode VII and the rest of the incoming crap so badly ? Did he fuck your mom or what ?
Who cares whose ideas were used in the first draft, what matters is the final product and lucas hasn't touched it at all. The blame is 100% on disney and the retards they hired to manage this license.

No wonder Star Wars is turning into shit. When you hire cucks, soyboys and "fans of fandom," you wind up with retarded shit such as Force trees and Snoke having Vader's thoughts.

Daily reminder that Star War is a kid's movie

>Lucas is a fan of genuinely good directors and is therefore a good director himself, not just someone who got incredibly lucky with the creative team he happened to be working with for the original trilogy, who created the entire visual aesthetic of star wars, the music of star wars, and almost everything else that was genuinely good about it

>Lucas had nothing to do with Star Wars
Hi Mike, when are you going to release another Plinkett review?

Some kiddy SW content like Clone Wars is still better than Nu-Wars.

Well considering they’ve already come out and said the next trilogy will be unrelated to any previous story, yeah they know they done fugged up
>the force is female!

I don't blame Lucas or the EU, they were making somewhat original stuff. It might have been inpired by other shit, but it wasn't 90% copied like SW7. I blame OP for being a shitlord and Disney for not being good hacks.

>Kiddy
>Massacre at Umbara

Clone Wars got better and heavier with every season.

Of course he had something to do with it. He wrote and directed the first movie. He also cowrote the story for the second two. Did he have anything to do with the music? No. Did he have anything to do with the design? Barely. Did he create the visual aesthetic of Star Wars including the iconic appearance of things such as the lightsaber? Fuck no. Did he have anything to do with the filming and cinematography? Barely.

Star Wars would be nothing without the people who made it what it was. Attributing these things to Lucas like he's some kind of auteur genius on par with Kurosawa is a fucking joke. We all saw what happened when Lucas got more creative control. He butchered the originals and made some tacky knockoff prequels. He deserves credit where it is due, but no more than that, and not a small portion of criticism to go with that.

I agree the problem is simplicity and iconography but that´s been a problem on hollywood for years now. They have forgotten how to make memorable characters and timeless plots.

No character on the new SW is particularly memorable in any way and i think that´s because they are focusing too much on the political agenda and too little on the actual scripts, characters and cinematography.

Sadly i don´t agree to the "originals are going to outlive this shit" statement. The way i see it Disney is going to produce so many SW related movies and tv shows that the original movies will eventually just get lost on that sea of mediocrity.

I expect at least as many main flicks as Marvel, several spin offs of old characters like the Han Solo movie and whatnot, several spin offs on new characters if they, by mere chance, actually manage to write an interesting one and prequels of all kind before even episode 1, 2 and 3.
Stuff like young Yoda, poor adaptations to KoToR and whatnot.

as someone who liked the force awakens. I'm gonna call it quits on Star Wars after Episode 9

>He also cowrote the story for the second two
he actually wrote the scripts after Leigh Brackett's passing. Kasdan was brought in to rewrite Lucas's scripts for Empire. He and Kasdan worked together on Return of the Jedi. Lucas did more for the sequels than most would admit.

>Did he have anything to do with the music? No
he did, actually, and it's documented on how he worked with John Williams and stated what exactly he wanted to hear. Now did he write and execute the music? Of course not. That's John Williams's genius, but Lucas is the genesis of John Williams's Star Wars work. Without Lucas's direction, you won't get the music. Does this make sense?

>Did he have anything to do with the design? Barely
He did. That's part of the director's job, especially one that had creative control like Lucas back in the laid back 70s when studios lacked the retarded corporate executives

>Did he create the visual aesthetic of Star Wars including the iconic appearance of things such as the lightsaber? Fuck no
Like Lucas and John Williams's cooperation, Lucas told Ben Burtt what he wanted to hear.

>Did he have anything to do with the filming and cinematography? Barely.
I'll give you this because it's well known that Lucas and Gil Taylor clashed endlessly.

Go to bed, George.

>Kathleen Kennedy, her story group and all other hacks involved are just [trying] to please the hardcore Star Wars nerds while ignoring what made Star Wars so easily watchable and timeless in the first place.

Nah, they hate hardcore fans. Yes, they'll take their money, and they take if for granted that those nerds will always fill seats, but Disney, and Kathleen Kennedy in particular, have nothing but contempt for them. Consider:

>Rey is a metaphor for Star Wars' future.
>The Millennium Falcon is a metaphor for Star Wars' past.
>Unkar Plutt (played by Simon Pegg) represents the stereotypical hardcore longtime fan of star wars. A bloated, unpleasant and petty collector of junk (trivia and toys) from the wreckage of star destroyers (the SW franchise circa 2011).
>Plutt has possession of both the Falcon and Rey, yet does nothing with either. Their potential is wasted with him.
>Along comes Finn, who sweeps Rey up into a new adventure. Together, they take the Millennium Falcon and leave Unkar Plutt behind.

That this was meant as a mocking jab at the hardcore SW fans by JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy is certain. What is less obvious is whether poor Simon Pegg, the fanboy-turned-actor, realized he was being cast as part of that joke.

I doubt this was much more than an in-joke between a few people. But it still speaks volumes about those currently at the helm of the franchise and their opinion of longtime fans.

...

How unfortunate that JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy sidelined Leia in the Force Awakens. In The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, she was implied by Yoda, Luke and Vader to have *As Much* potential in the Force as Luke (a potential that was actually explored in the Expanded Universe novels). If JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy wanted to actually show a female Force user and develop alternative perspectives on the nature of the Force, they should have used Leia. As a diplomat, leader, and mother, she could have used and been guided by the Force in ways we've not seen onscreen yet. Mediating disputes between contentious factions after the fall of the Empire. Inspiring hope, courage and forgiveness in those who follow her. Drawing on the selfless maternal instinct to protect and sacrifice for her children. These are just several new and compelling ways Leia could have demonstrated how the Light Side of the Force can be used for good.

What a shame JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy did Leia and Carrie Fisher such a disservice. Instead of developing a beloved and classic character in a way that elevated the story and universe of Star Wars, they took a page from fanfiction.net and inserted Rey.

Now Carrie Fisher is dead, and their failure is complete

Even though Leia had all the potential to be a Jedi and even though Disney and Kathleen "The Force Is Female" Kennedy could have used her to bring in a new, uniquely feminine perspective, they didn't. Why not? Three words:

Disney. Hates. Mothers.

Because little girls hate their moms and want to be as different from them as possible. And since Disney wants to market Star Wars to little girls, and that means marketing Jedi, presenting an old, wise, maternal Leia as the CoverGirl of female Force users was the last thing they'd consider doing. Even though it would have made sense in-universe, and would have elevated Leia's character in a meaningful way, it would have devalued the IP. So instead they're using Rey, who, like all the Disney princesses, must be kind, headstrong, independent, naturally gifted and probably an orphan. If she must have a parent, it will be a father figure (Han, Luke).

Given that Leia ran to Rey instead of Chewie following Han's death, it's pretty obvious that JJ and Kathleen don't understand the characters, man. Seeing Leia as a Jedi in movie format would've been a much wiser choice, given her prestige and ability to lead. She should be the one to find Luke, since they go way back, not some nobody.

This is all evidence Disney's hard pivot in marketing the Star Wars brand. They'll say something along the lines of "We want to bring the magic of a Galaxy Far Far Away to new and diverse audiences". But that's corporate for "We want to double our target demographic by making the brand appealing to girls."
Part of this pivot is the obvious addition and elevation of female characters (Rey, Jyn, Sabine, Iden, Rose, Kira) and including girls in product commercials.
A less obvious part is shedding the image of Star Wars as being the domain of autistic boys fussing over the details of the universe and technology. This is done more subtly: decanonizing the EU, redefining the nature of the Force, and diminishing the importance of the OT and PT.

Trying to attract new (casual) fans to an established franchise can be challenging and Disney doesn't want their new female demographic put off by a backlog of games and books because:
A) that media is already in circulation.
B) that much lore presents a steep learning curve to new fans.

It's not fun to be constantly corrected by "Well, Actually..." or to have your nerd cred measured based on encyclopedic knowledge of obscure facts from the Expanded Universe.
So Disney solved this challenge by negating and replacing the EU. Now when a nu-fan is confronted by an obscure fact
>(the Rebel mission to steal the Death Star plans involved Kyle Katarn and Havet Storm. It took place on Toprawa. Facet Anamor was the daughter the superweapon's designer: Druth)
they just chuckle "lol, Nope, non-canon"
>(now the Rebel mission to steal the Death Star plans involved Captain Cassian, took place on Scariff, and Jyn Erso is the daughter of the superweapon's designer: Galen)
This levels the playing field. Signaling a high level of fandom today simply requires buying into the latest line of merchandise or keeping up to date on the latest trickle of hints and sneak peaks carefully released by the studio.

This would never happen cuz carrie cant act

They're dumbing it down for normies. Also, who the fuck is Kira?

>This would never happen cuz carrie cant act
She wouldn't have needed to.
Just put a lightsaber on her belt and have her make a single wise statement.
She's a Jedi now.

Dude, this is gold. Well done. Have any more insight? What you're saying makes perfect sense.

lol faggot, we all know that this degeneracy has to do with zionist plan its not hard to figure out
now fuck off back to pleddit

Disney removed the "Episode __" designation from their Star Wars "episode" movies for a reason. I think it's to distance themselves from the PT or to separate themselves from the 6 Star Wars movies to create a new Star Wars brand. What do you think?

le sister is the lightside and female while the brother is darkside and male.

male=evil guys. thank u money 4 propaganda audience.

TFA left far too many questions about its characters unanswered, and not in a good way. We don't know the origin on Rey, (nor are we given reason to care), Finn's backstory is explained lightly, and Poe is essentially absent from the movie. Han Solo, Leia, Chewie, and Luke are clearly treated like the characters that matter in that movie. See how the death of Han Solo is supposed to be the big emotional character development of the film.

Yet we don't care about Rey, Finn and Poe. They try to make them personable when they're quipping but we still don't know anything about them and there really is no identifying characteristic to any of them. With Luke, Han and Leia, you can point to personality characteristics they have, but you really can't with the new characters.

This is fucking hilarious given the history behind Star Wars and George Lucas shilling it to Hollywood studios back in the day. After being rejected by just about everyone, Disney gave Lucas the hard "NO". And when they did, Fox stepped up to look at Star Wars.

>Since then Disney only had success in their animation department
>Fox launched several great IPs like Die Hard, Aliens, and James Cameron
>Disney had it great until the 90s...
>... until Fox dipped its hand in animation filmmaking
>Disney went downhill
>Fox went up

Now Disney is buying Fox.

Me sides

Also Disney accused Fox of being a monopoly back in the early 90s.

Simon Pegg is a piece of shit who was in cahoots with JJ Abrams to take SW away from George. He was actively bashing him on twitter.

RLM said they appreciated the characterization of Rey because of moments like where she was wearing that helmet and eating in the desert. That was an interesting, simple scene that endears you to Rey, sure. But name one other scene in the entire movie that is like that, with Rey or any of the other characters.

Rey is alright at first, then she beats a trained force user with a lightsaber.

>she beats a trained force user with a lightsaber.
It's not like he was Darth Maul aka mean, lean killing machine.

>Kyber crystals
>>Lightsaber crystals match the Force power of one, but Sith Lords squeeze it red! xD
>>A force tree
>>le Force sister and brother fought, created the light side and dark side! xD
Literal larp fanfiction
>>Snoke is a product of Palpatine.... Or.... he maybe legitimate?
Snoke and Palpatine being connected would be a good thing
>>Oh Return of the Jedi showed a positive future? Well we have the First Order. Where it came from? How did it start? LOL IDK!
True
>>Anakin's lightsaber, given to Luke, is lost forever in the clouds of Bespin? Not anymore!
Wow they went to find the lightsaber of the most powerful force user ever? No way
>>The Starkiller is a literal Death Star in a fucking planet.
Yeah
>>Rey is the child of whoever but is more powerful than the galaxy and all those who in lived in it
>defeats kylo
>omg she's the most powerful in da universe!
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Shit, I didn't even notice that. You might be on to something.

im glad Sup Forums has caught on to the bs disney gave us with TFA, if only normies could think alike.
when i ask my casual friends, some agree, others are total newbies who've started watching since TFA, but claim they've been fans since forever

old fans ruined star wars
new fans ruin star wars
what gives?

>implying midichlorians weren't retarded

>Also, who the fuck is Kira?

Emilia Clarke's character in the upcoming Han Solo movie, likely based on the existing EU character Bria Tharen. Again, they can just *use* material from the EU, they have to change it enough so all fans, nu and old, have to start from the same place.

They didn’t give leia a big role because they were worried about Carrie Fisher’s long term stability.
They could and should have done a lot better with the character within those confines, but you’re jumping at shadows there.

>Finn...

What a wasted opportunity. Finn could have been so much more interesting, but instead what we got in TFA was a pretty bland character, all things considered. Boyega may have played the role given to him as well as he could, but the writers really dropped the ball with Finn.
A brainwashed child soldier breaking his conditioning and defecting to his former enemy has a lot of potential as a character. Consider this alternative:
>He strikes out on his own, but with military discipline being the only thing he knows, he struggles to cope with life on the outside
>He has to develop his own moral compass, since he's only ever followed and given orders. What he adopts is an imperfect blend of what he was raised under (harsh absolutism) and what he aspires to as being the antithesis of the First Order (pacifism and defense of the helpless).
>Maybe his unique ideology leads him to Luke, who offers the Jedi teachings as a more nuanced philosophy. Despite not being a Force user, Finn finds them helpful and incorporates them into his own way.
>In his struggle to find purpose outside the goal driven military, Finn seeks to lead his former comrades away from brainwashed service to the tyranical First Order. This causes him to fall in with the Rebellion (something he initially did not intend).
>Among the Rebellion, he finds the structure and direction he lacked after leaving the First Order. Except the other Rebels/Resistance members are sceptical and suspicious of his loyalties, especially since he refuses to use leathal force against his former comrades.
>Leia is an exception, and demonstrates her own Jedi wisdom in her ability to forgive and accept Finn
>When he faces Phasma, he doesn't mock her. In their confrontation, they are both pleading with the other; To Phasma, Finn is her greatest failure. The only way to resolve it is for him to return to the fold. For Finn, Phasma is his mentor, someone he trusts and respects. He wants to save her, not kill her.

This. In a way that's why we'll never get true movies anymore or simply some exceptions here and there. Even though one might say that of course the first star wars by Lucas was already the begining of the end for Hollywood. But at least the MEN behind it were still MEN anyway (Lucas and his love for cars etc). We now have flicks that are made by women and effeminate soyboys and oh boy does it show!

Thanks
Those are just some copypastas I made to articulate why Nu-Wars feels so "off" and diminished. Yes, feminism is part of it, but it's a surface level issue. As I illustrated with Leia, Star Wars *can* include female perspectives and heroes and still be good. But what we're getting from Kathleen Kennedy is calculated pandering. We shouldn't hate the girls, when it's the corporation that is ultimately at fault. Kiri Hart and her story group are commisars, but they're only given as much leeway as Disney allows. The root cause of the changes being made to the Star Wars franchise is Greed, vast, cool, and unsympathetic.

this is the only other longpost I have.

>Again, they can just *use* material from the EU, they have to change it enough so all fans, nu and old, have to start from the same place.
Honestly can't blame them for that, even if I wish they did it better.
Can you imagine having to walk around the shit in the EU, which was an incestuous clusterfuck of contradictions?
All while having people like Mangofags screaming in your ear?

WTF I LOVE star wars now

They had a golden fucking opportunity to cherry-pick all of the good parts but threw that away. Just their handing the license off to EA shows that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Jesus, I simply hate how all these twitterinos separate their descriptive words with a dot. Are they doo brainwashed to form long sentences?

Sadly, it's probably more due to their readers being too retarded/ADHD riddled to deal with long sentences.
They don't want to have to comprehend a sentence, or think of that evil grammar. Instead they just want to glance at it.

This, Lucasfilm had employed someone named Leland Chee to oversee continuity in the EU, fit all the pieces together. They could've asked him to form a sort of "spine" of EU material from which Disney could borrow and work around, and thrown out the rest, but instead they tossed it all out and now they're stuck reusing the best ideas but having to differentiate them from the original material, and the whole thing ends up watered down.

Leland and Pablo Hidalgo have been pushed aside and stripped from their qualifications. Pablod was supposed to be the head of the storygroup but it's a fat feminist woman instead Kirir Hart who took the position. Pablo doesn't do anything it seems except writing visual books about the new movies. look at his twitter account, he's been posting Transformers drawings for a year. He has no involvement in the stories. Disney didn't fire to avoid raising attention but I'm sure this is bullying and they are waiting for them to walk off on their own because there are some women seeking their position.

That's sad. Especially since one of the reasons Lucas gives for selling was concern for his employees. He wanted the future of his company and co-workers to be in good hands. Except Disney immediately downsized certain teams (LucasArts), moved their own people into others (Storygroup), or operated new teams in parallel (JJ's Bad Robot production house). It all adds up to the longtime employees that Lucas cared about getting retired or cubbyholed in order to make room for the people responsible for nu-Wars.

>Pop culture fiend
>Fiend

At least he's honest about it.

>Did he create the visual aesthetic of Star Wars including the iconic appearance of things such as the lightsaber? Fuck no. Did he have anything to do with the filming and cinematography? Barely.

Are you seriously that retarded or are we being trolled?

>Star Wars would be nothing without the people who made it what it was. Attributing these things to Lucas like he's some kind of auteur genius on par with Kurosawa is a fucking joke.

Look, dude, none of the people who supposedly "made Star Wars what it was" produced anything remotely noteworthy on their own.

>We all saw what happened when Lucas got more creative control.

Yeah, he made perfectly fine movies that had some flaws, mostly because this Lucas did not luck out as he did in OT, where out of three no-names (Harrison Ford literally got acquainted with Lucas when doing some repairs in his house) put into the key protagonist roles two turned out to be ideal hits, but only became divisive because they triggered every autist out there by not being a complete OT rehash.

>and they take if for granted that those nerds will always fill seats

That's where they are in error, at least regarding myself.

Star Wars lore is trash, but one mans trash is another mans treasure so whatever.

>the canon of star wars is being written by some mouth-breather soy boy that unironically loves Disney

>Oh Return of the Jedi showed a positive future? Well we have the First Order. Where it came from? How did it start? LOL IDK!

it was stated in the new disney cannon books that the empire disappeared for many years to reform and regroup, and then they returned as the first order

>clusterfuck
Maybe you should put down the phone once a while, ADHD kid.

no. u

...

>actively bashed Lucas because muh childhood
>begs Lucas to voice a character in TCW and apologises for the past
>JJ brings him back into Star Wars
>goes back to shitting on Lucas
It's one thing to have an opinion about something but holy shit that autism.
It's also kinda hypocritical to go on about CGIing Lucas when the character he played was fuck ugly that was ALSO CGI'd.

>woman in charge of Lucas films
>surprised she has no idea what she’s doing and can’t come up with any decent story, and instead labels a remake (that she injected needless ‘diversity’ into) with a self insert perfect Mary Sue, as a sequel.
No shit, Kennedy deserves to be burned at the stake

>Disney is turning Star Wars into a cluster cuck

Kathleen Kennedy doesn't do much in terms of story. She apparently gives the directors a lot of freedom, until they fuck up (like with the original directors of the Han Solo movie). JJ Abrams wanted to ditch the original script and do things the way he did.

If anything, the problem is that they DON'T have an on-going plan, like Marvel/Feige does, and they keep letting each director kind of do their own thing as long as they don't fuck up.

They really needed to keep Lucas on-board as a consultant. He's a good ideas guy, he just can't direct actors for shit, and needs people to temper his crazy shit.

>Thats a story for another time

W-what?

>soyboys are in charge of star wars
who wouldve thought

>Kathleen Kennedy doesn't do much in terms of story. She apparently gives the directors a lot of freedom, until they fuck up (like with the original directors of the Han Solo movie). JJ Abrams wanted to ditch the original script and do things the way he did.
Are you aware than even before JJ Abrams camme in, Kathleen Kennedy a "female jedi story" to Michael arndt. Other anecdotes include that JJ wasn't interested by the Captain Phasma design who was originally made for the main villain but once KK saw that concept, she loved it and they forced it in the movie as Phasma, despite being designed as a male armor, she gave the role to a Gwendoline.

source that was Kennedy?

Star Wars ended when George Lucas sold it. Disney may have the rights, but it is nothing more than exceedingly expensive fanfiction put to film without George's involvement.

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Sick rebuttal

>midichlorians
>chosen one

trash. I'm willing to ignore most of the shit from NuEU until it starts showing up in the movies, and being mad TFA didn't match your headcanon of what post-ROTJ would have looked like isn't real criticism

>being mad TFA reset everything, made the original saga meaningless, and ruined Luke and Han's characters isn't real criticism

>made the original saga meaningless
The Star Wars movies are still canon aren't they?

Nice pasta faggot.

>Nice pasta faggot.
Does it still count as pasta is I made it?

>hey you killed the emperor and restored democracy to the galaxy, congratulations!
>now it turns out to be meaningless since you repeat the mistakes made last time and everything is sent back to square one just thirty years later
>last movie was titled Return of the Jedi? Turns out they didn't return after all

I am absolutely sure I have seen this text about Pegg about two months ago.

Ah, yes, that First Order bullshit. Fuck, it did seem like IV being rehashed. I need to watch TFA again

>The way i see it Disney is going to produce so many SW related movies and tv shows that the original movies will eventually just get lost on that sea of mediocrity.

You're right.
What a sad way to go.