Superman, in saving the Earth, causes collateral damage that may have injured a few people

>Superman, in saving the Earth, causes collateral damage that may have injured a few people
>muh man of murder
>pic related killed dozens of security personnel in cold blood
>hahaha so funny based marvel

>bunch of buildings destroyed
>may have injured a few people

That guy went from being a villain to antihero, he's a bad person.

Yondu is not a symbol of hope, he's a ruthless space pirate.

Blue guy never pretended to be anything more than a bloodthirsty pirate. That's the difference, retard.

Yondu is a ravager. He ravages.

Superman is supposed to be a hero. Instead, he lets everyone around him die.

9/11 killed a couple thousand and they had time to evacuate before the towers fell

the superman vs zod fight shit exploded and collapsed in like 5 minutes, at least 10k people died

>snyderfag logic

>Villain killing innocent people
>Hero killing innocent people
Those aren't the same

Superman is The Symbol of Peace. He should always have a smile on his face.

More people would have died if Supes hadn't killed Zod though.

>security personnel

Did you even watch the movie? They were mutineers.

>A scummy space pirate is the same as Space Jesus
Fuck off

u rite u rite

the capeshitter who refuses to read or know anything about capeshit strikes again. Comic Superman doesn't kill (inb4 OP googles some out of context alternate universe superman killing people). he is the defining symbol of truth, justice, and the American way. he is referred to as the man of murder because he purposely killed Zod.

Then there's Yondu. I won't even bother comparing him to comic yondu because they have barely any similarities. HE is a pirate, he kills all the time, and nobody questions it because this version is an anti-hero at best. retard

This thread is dumb as fuck, senpai.
Not only the huge false equivalency, that Superman is supposed to be the peak superhero and Yondu is a ravager, a space pirate, Superman is also killing innocents and Yonlu is killing other space pirates, which are fair to be assumed as rapists and pillagers, one of them which identifies himself as TASERFACE.

I don't know anything about blue guy, but is he a mopey little emo bitch? That might have something to do with the perception

I'M MARRY POPPINS Y'ALL

The no killing rule is dumb, and so is anyone who cares about it.

Nope, he's a cheery asshole that likes his adopted son. He just killed the pirates that betrayed him after said pirates killed all the people that stayed loyal to him

Superman killed in the mainline a bunch of times, like those three Kryptonian war criminals who wiped out an entire alternate Earth. He also killed Darkseid even though it didn't stick.

I remember noticing that and how weird it was that there was a whole skit or sth about a swear word. On the one hand you have numerous murders in cold blood and on the other hand you can't say shitfuck

Does Marvel have the same rule? I don't read the comics, but in the movies they kill left and right with no remorse

One is the most iconic superhero and supposed to be a symbol of hope. The other is a space pirate that has clearly been established not to even be a good person. What sort of comparison is this, are you a fucking retard?

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more proof that the average Sup Forums capeshitter is a retard, who sits around all day slurping the sweat off of the balls of Hack Snyder. I won't even grace you with a (you) or an argument

He got a bitchin' headfin, so that absolves him of past sins

>an alien that was supposed to bring hope to people of the earth brings his fight from a deserted farmland to a major city centre
Don't you see a problem here?

yea but hes the "good" guy, and the scene is set to lighthearted music with rocket him palling around having fun murdering the "bad" guys, and so audiences laugh. audiences arent sure if superman is the "good" guy cause snyder made him too unsure of himself and made every movie with him in it dark and dreary. and when superman fights zod the audience doesnt know who to root for since superman hasnt shown himself to be the "good" guy yet and zod has a fucking point. good lord man of steel was way too dark for children (which these movies should be aimed at)

So this is the power of Snydeniers
Remember when Tony Stark sent a 14 year old kid he just met into a battle that he nearly died in, and when he almost got killed by Ant-Man, Iron-Manlet just quips about it and tells him to go him?
Yeah thats some real fucking heroes Marvel.

fair point with the kryptonians, but if I remember correctly, they killed four billion people, leaving superman the only one left to administer justice. as for darkseid, he's practically evil incarnate, and even supes would be okay taking him out of play permanently. no question there

>knocks over, flies through multiple skyscrapers to keep punching Zod in the face
>jumps over a gas tanker that would not have hurt him, letting it explode behind him against a building, probably at least a hundred people in that one shot died
Yes, he is man of murder, at the very least man of manslaughter.
Meanwhile Yondu was killing about a few dozen people who were all shown to be evil space pirates that abuse innocent little tree things. He's also more of a Han Solo, rogue good guy, not Superman, the symbol of all hope of humanity. It's okay for him to be edgy.

oh yea but guess what you brainlet those movies have a lighter tone to them so when spiderman almost gets killed its easier to sit with the audience than shots of superman destroying buildings with zod and cutaways to people fucking screaming, crying, and running like its a reenactment of 9/11.

superhero movies arent supposed to make you feel shitty leaving the theater and have your children crying and asking why superman did that. except for watchmen, you fucking mongoloid snyder cockthroaters never get why your shit universe failed.

>Remember when Tony Stark sent a 14 year old kid he just met into a battle that he nearly died in, and when he almost got killed by Ant-Man

yeh and Toy Stark was acting as the villain of that movie, not the hero.
Nor is he ever presented as anything but a deeply flawed individual who needs constant guidance to do the right thing.

If you stay in very tall buildings and don't immediately evacuate during a earth-quake causing invasion that's just natural selection at that point, retards who stayed in the building sprobably enjoyed pic related

>"Muh Tony Stark is a BAD man! Therefore Hack Snyder is right!!"
nobody is denying that Stark isn't a good person you fucking retard

>into a battle that he nearly died in
Nah, Spiderman is quite a bit stronger than you give him credit for. Even if Ant-man stepped on him spiderman is strong enough to prevent the foot from actually flattening him.

Do we want to talk about how if Superman was strong enough to actually break Zod's neck with enough force to release a shock wave that he easily should have had enough power to simply re-direct his face in another direction?

>if it makes quips FUCK MY LOGIC
Dumb ass.
>Toy Stark was acting as the villain of that movie, not the hero.
Don't even get me started on Cap, he tried to fucking crush Spider-Man, clearly a child with an OBVIOUS skinny frame, and proceeded to taunt him with quips like a fucking psycho.

>he thinks that cities can evacuate that fast
durr
the Snyderfag continues to lick the shit off of the hack Snyder asshole

>Remember when Tony Stark sent a 14 year old kid he just met into a battle that he nearly died in

MCU Tony is Comic Hank Pym: a brilliant, well-meaning, giant, giant fuckup. He means well but his judgment is fucking shit and you care reasonably assume he's wrong most of the time.

The fact that bringing in a 14-year-old on Avenger business is a fucking irresponsible idea is one of the main running points of Homecoming and while he tries so hard to have him slow the fuck down.

>when superman fights zod the audience doesnt know who to root for since superman hasnt shown himself to be the "good" guy yet and zod has a fucking point
>good lord man of steel was way too dark for children (which these movies should be aimed at)
Perfect reminder that literal brainlets dictate the success of film franchises, holy hell

modern skyscrapers are unironically one of the safest places to be during an earthquake
it's the older 5 story buildings with no regards for proper safety that kill people

furthermore evacuating a skyscraper takes a LOT of time

>Nah, Spiderman is quite a bit stronger than you give him credit for.
>proceeds to almost die in debris like a little bitch and is nearly killed by a fucking old man WITH WINGS

nothing about quips were said you fucking mongoloid. the fight in civil war is contained, its only between the heros. its a larger than life event that the audience gets to take part of.

the fight in man of steel is rife with destruction and imagery that harkens to 9/11 and other acts of terror. if you cant understand why audiences feel differently between the two and why the hate MOS youre a fucking moron just like snyder.

if the tone is lighthearted you can get away with it.

by the time Cap engages Peter it has been made quite obvious he is highly durable and physically powerful regardless of his build
and Cap's characterization makes it clear he would have picked up on this fact near instantly just from watching him.

>clearly a child with an OBVIOUS skinny frame
Nigga are you serious, he's fucking Spiderman

>he thinks that Cap was going to kill Spider-Man, proving that he didn't actually watch the movie
>QUIPS IN A SUPERHERO MOVIE ARE A SIGN OF BEING A PSYCHOPATH
lick that synderhole clean, boy

THEY ARE SUPERHERO MOVIES OF COURSE BRAINLETS DICTATE THEIR SUCCESS GOOD GOD WHY DO YOU SNYDERFAGS NOT UNDERSTAND THESE BASIC TRUTHS YOU FUCKING EDGELORD AUTISMOS

>this thread again

Said debris had the weight of a entire building which is quite a bit heavier than Ant-man whose weight is not meant to change regardless of his size

>he tried to fucking crush Spider-Man, clearly a child with an OBVIOUS skinny frame
Said Spiderman is a good dozen or so times stronger than Cap

PWEASE put a Trigger Warning on Man of Steel because ever since Nine Leven I get hot flashes whenever buildings get knocked down without being punctuated by jokesss

Who doesn't understand this? I was simply reiterating it

>the russobots are already contradicting eachother
cap had never engaged spiderman before this enough with your fan canon shit.
If you have to use the tone for your characters having shitty writing then that's pathetic.
I FUCKING SWEAR IF I GET THAT BULLSHIT CAPTCHA MESSAGE ONE MORE TIME.
IM NOT BUYING YOUR NEET PASS YOU SLANT EYED GOOK

G-Guys d-do I root for the unhinged zealot alien who wants to murder every human on Earth (you have to admit, he has a point!) to steal their planet or the guy who has been selflessly saving people the whole film at the risk of his family and identity?

I CAN'T TELL BECAUSE NEITHER ARE SMILING
WHICH ONE IS GOOOOOOD????

Cap didn't need to engage spidey before, he's an experienced soldier with heightened reflexes and mental capacities
meanwhile peter's 14
The latter doesn't have the required experience to hide how strong he actually is nor fully appreciate it's value in combat, while Cap is capable of gauging opponents instinctively.

Um, Spider-Man is a SUPERHERO, sweetie. You should go to bed.

Less people would have died if Superman didn't punch Zod through multiple buildings.

>le CAPTEN 56% suddenly gains the ability to omnipotently analyze everything about his opponents strength

Oh, oh sweetie, you should really calm down and take your medicine, you poor little dear.

Not the guy you were talking to, but this^ is the lamest asspull
You don't need to defend gaps in logic in silly films that don't take themselves seriously. Half of these films are outright comedies and you're going to die on the hill of contrived realism in situations that clearly ignore it? C'mon

>superman commits murder
>Y-you can't call him a murderer though

how is it in any way an asspull for an experienced combatant to know how to evaluate his opponent's strength's and weaknesses?

this isn't some magic skill, this is basic combat survival

>open marvel thread because you love capeshit
>LE YOU ARE RETARDED
>LE DON'T DEFEND GAPS IN LOGIC

>fuck Marvel, better go to the DCEU thread, at least they aren't autists
>LE YOU ARE RETARDED
>LE DON'T DEFEND GAPS IN LOGIC

What happened? Both threads are making me feel like capefilms were a mistake. But I love capeshit.

Again, most marvel heroes are against pointless killing, but not above killing villains if it will fix the problem.

To be fair, that 14 year old could most likely smack the shit out of anyone on team cap without too much trouble.

He literally won without much trouble a 2 on 1 against a flying parrot and a super soldier, didn't he?

>superman
good guy
>whatever his name was
bad guy

Evaluating that he can lift X amount of tons above his head - actually, catching it from free fall - based on eyeballing him for 5 seconds is ridiculous, stop embarrassing yourself

>Superman, the original superhero, is held to a higher standard than a mercenary criminal outcast

Pretty much. Putting Spider-Man down as just a 14 year old is pretty misleading.

Did you also cry in the comics when Nitro nuked a small town, you simpering nu-male?
Jesus christ, we can't even have casualties in capeshit anymore w/o soylets getting triggered

How come japan made a better Superman than superman ever was?

>reads childrens comic books
>calls someone else a numale
Lad...

Its because of people like you that they specified that Batman dragged Doomsday into a somehow completely empty Gotham port or some shit.

You are the problem, not the solution. Snyder made kino but you ruined it with your >muh death muh damage shitposting.

Imagine if Infinity War actually had the balls to do the comics arc where half the universe goes bye-bye...
These utter virgins would probably break down in tears right in the theater (unless Ant-man made a fart joke, in which case it's fine)

>ant-man
>infinity war
lmao naïve cuck

(You)
Imagine Secret Wars with the Illuminati destroying worlds. We can't have consequences like that in the films, no sir, just fluffy safe spaces for our fragile, fragile audiences

>half of the universe dies
>whoa... anyone else feel that?
>audience erupts with laughter

>"I didn't like my mother-in-law anyway"

Nitro is a villain.

Stobb figting over cappuchino bot mabel and diisii ar gud

Accidental samefag reveal or just addition to that specified post, we will never know.

kek

Reminder that the retarded wojacks picture are a forced meme coming all from BUTTHURT DCucks. Notice how there are less response about pajeet shill in super heroes movies thread ? How after many rumors destroyed the reputation of the justice league movie, no DCucks even dared to even use based Armond White reviews to defend it, it isn't a matter of winning or losing. Warner Bros shot themselves in the foot by asking whedon to cut a snyder movie in half, that's it, one of the stupidest move in the history of cinema production. So now, you these posters can no longer hold to the reputations of DC movies to defend themselves against marvel fans or anyone else who will criticise super heroes movies. They themselves can't defend it and they are reduce to call everyone who even mention anything related to capeflick stupid, vainly trying to gain a little feel of superiority. Remember, they adopted the terms capekino and capeshit for dc and marvel movies respectivly, they were in majority having the childish behavior of calling capeshitters stupid and retarded and now they are using the same methods behind those wojack pictures. They can't fathom that their favorite brands failed so they spam in capeshit related threads in attempt to disengage any discution in that category. They will respond by telling you that you are defending marvel if you criticise their thoughs or tell them that taste in movie is not directly related to intellect. All the while trying to persuade themselves they hate all kind of comic books movie. They can't accept that they have always seem retarded by exposing they're stupidity. So by believing that everyone who watch anything they hate is dumber than them to feel superior for some (you)s. It is not even subtle that its dkeks cryings..
>lack of wojacks in this thread

>as a direct result of superman's actions and inactions, thousands, potentially millions of innocent civilians who had no choice in the matter or power to save themselves are killed and injured in a cataclysm the likes of which earth has never seen
>as a direct result of yondu's actions, several traitorous space pirates are killed on a ship in the middle of space, they could have defected back to yondu's side at any time and were responsible for their own deaths as they had wronged a murderous fucking space pirate captain
i thought you snyderfags were supposed to be intelligent

>reminder: water is wet!

Yeah we know.

isn't it in GOTG 1 that a fuckin giant space ship crashes on Xandar and kills literally billions of peoples ?

Yes, anons, it would have been much better if Superman had let Zod kill literally all humans than to destroy a few buildings.

It would have been better if Superman didn't sacrifice thousands of human lives so he could have an epic showdown with Zod and then snap his neck.

You should be able to estimate how strong someone is after you've scuffled with them for a bit. Especially Cap, who's literally the best combatant in Marvel. You'd know this if you'd ever done any kind of physical exercise.

Yeah, Superman should have just politely asked Zod to stop it.

>literally billions of people

Holy shit talk about exaggerations. That's like an entire planet's worth of people. It destroyed a small part of a city.

Are you okay? How many times have you made this thread now?

>Lad

OI THE QUEEN'S GON AND SHARTED ALL OVER MY KNICKERBOCKER GLORY, FAG'S ME UNCLE BONG BONG

Iron Man is an impulsive douche that tries too hard to do right thing but he always messes up. He's not a symbol of hope like Superman is supposed to be.

Nice false dilemma.

>hey zod i understand you're trying to kill a bunch of people but could we go somewhere where there's no one to kill pretty please?

Did well on that senior year English test, huh kid?

>The Snydercuck is actually talking to himself now
This is just sad

No, Hack Snyder was the problem

Thank god that idiot and his dumbass fans are being kept away from DC properties from now on