Can we all agree that having "no kill policy" superheroes like Batman, Daredevil and Superman is retarded in this day and age?
Now that we have heroes that actually get positive results through killing, such as Punisher, Watchmen, and One Punch Man, seeing a hero use mental gymnastics to explain why he doesn't kill is just aggravating.
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The avengers kill loads of people
OPM destroys half a city whenever he punches
Daredevil at least has a reason for not killing because he is Catholic
Batman kills when necessary
Punisher is mad at the legal system
And one punch man suffers from a rare condition you ableist shitlord
>he's never read the Manchester Black arc
pathetic. Why do snyderfags pretend to know what they're talking about when it comes to capeshit?
One Punch Man doesn't kill. He deletes.
But with Batman the no kill policy is simultaneously his weakness and makes him more heroic/interesting. His worldview will never work, but he's never going to give it up.
But that's just the "No Kill" interpretations of Batman.
But user, Superman is willing to kill if he absolutely has to. 99% of the time he doesn't have to because he has other methods or can just overpower his opponent, but if you're strong enough to back him into that corner (e.g. Darkseid, Mongul, Doomsday, Zod, parademons, whatever) on that other 1%? He will come out swinging. He'll feel incredibly guilty afterwards, he'll hate himself, but he'll also eventually deal with it, because he's not a crazy madman who wouldn't be able to stop himself from doing it again if he started (see: Batman), and he has a good familial support network to keep him going.
I HATE THE NO KILL POLICE
I FUCKING HATE IT HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Someone explain me why this shit even exists.
take batman for example, he wants to make gotham a good place right? So he catches the bad poision guy and beats him up a little bit. But he lets him life, Now the bad guy either gets taken by police or gets away. BUT ALWAYS THE BAD GUY EITHER MANAGES TO AVOID PRISON OR JUST ESCAPES IT AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER!?!? HE GOES BACK TO KILLING PEOPLE LIKE BEFORE.
BATMAN YOU FUCKING NIGGER. YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE BY ALLOWING BAD GUYS LIKE THESE TO STAY ALIVE YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARD I SWEAR THE GOD YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT.
FUCKING WEAK FAGGOTS LET BAD GUYS LIVE JUST SO THE BAD GUY CAN GO KILLING AGAIN
SUPERHEROES = KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE THROUGH 3RD PARTIES
WHEN WILL THEY REALISE?!?!?!
Protip, user: Bruce Wayne is not mentally stable.
i know but not only batman does this shit.
Athor superheroes do the same shit
This is why i find the punisher based as fuck
>This is why i find the punisher based as fuck
>Finding someone who eliminates bad guys based is bad
Hang yourself user
i bet you would save some nigger who raped your entire family from death and then make sure he gets healthy again. fucking mong
>he's a punisher fan
start here, retard.
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read this issue and the next. if you still don't understand why the no kill rule exists, you're beyond hope.
>i bet you would save some nigger who raped your entire family from death and then make sure he gets healthy again. fucking mong
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Not gonna read capshit comics.
You can explain whatever you want but batman and athor heroes not killing certain bad guys is inexcusable.
Punisher has basically never killed anybody of great consequence in Marvel, so his lack of a no-kill rule really has no big influence on the universe other than as a "yeah, Punisher totally doesn't give a shit about no-kill and will kill you".
Of course, Marvel at one point said he had something like over 10,000 kills or something. Which puts him as less a "serial killer" and more as "genocidal crazyman".
Yeah. It's just stupid that daredevil does not kill anyone. I liked snyder's batfleck in bvs though. He didn't care about the bad guys.
No, literally every adaptation of Punisher has come to the same conclusion: he flat out likes killing. He never wanted to go back home from Vietnam. He's a serial killer and a mass murderer. Some adaptations are more honest about than others but them's the breaks.
Batman is very flimsy about his moral code though. With Daredevil being a devout catholic it makes sense to have a moral code. But Batman not killing people seems like an oversight.
Batman's moral code is partly his severe psychological trauma, and partly, well, the rest of his psychological trauma. It's also why he hates guns. His parents were murdered by somebody carrying one, killed in front of his eyes while he could only watch, and remember that his father was also a doctor, somebody who saves lives but never takes them.
In a very real sense, either Bruce Wayne (mentally) has never fully left that alleyway, or that alleyway was where Bruce Wayne died and Batman was first born.
hero who kills villains becomes villain himself.
Agree. The Punisher is just Batman with no limits.
Batman is a pussy.
That's dumb.
No non-meta human superhero is mentally stable, if they were, they wouldn't be superheroes.
Suicidal tendencies is a symptom of mental illness. Putting your life at risk counts.
Oh shit, I've watched the Waynes get gunned down after watching Zorro so many times I managed to forget it for some reason. I'm dumb. Thank you. Obviously that psychological trauma is a good reason for Batman to avoid guns.
>There's no evidence to show that capital punishment would reduce the crime statistics.
Alan Partridge: Well, it'd reduce it by one, wouldn't it?
In DCEU Batman does kill people when its warranted.
In the comics: he doesn't kill because his identity was born out of someone killing his parents. He never wants a villain to be able to claim that Batman created them (Earth 1 GJohns) and Scott Snyder's idea is that Batman doesn't kill because Gotham is basically alive and if he killed say... Joker, the city would just send someone worse.
>Gotham is basically alive
>basically
user, Gotham is functionally a sentient genius loci of evil, torture, and death. It has half a dozen Indian burial grounds, a lazarus pit, demon summoning thinning the veil, lovecraftian shit going on in the lower catacombs and sewers, and any amount of other crap. There's even a strange demon-like entity living in mirrors, and it's part of what destroyed Pyg's mind and created Joker (implied). Shit, Mirror Master, one of Flash's rogues, explicitly says he avoids mirrors in Gotham if he can because of what looks back at him from the other side.
That city is alive. It has a will of its own. And it is evil. Nuke it, raze it to the ground, and build another city somewhere else.
I was thinking about these two characters the other day, they are polar opposites but there is one thing they have in common.
people wish they would exist, if for different reasons.
No killing means that you give the enemy another chance
At succeeding with their villainous plot? Or at redemption?
We all know that the latter basically never happens because comics, but still. It's the defeatist aspect.
It’s retarded. Batman’s parents are killed, he wants to clean up the streets to protect innocent people. Why would he never be allowed to kill people?
The fun of having characters that do not kill is pushing them to the point where they need to kill.
That arc is shit because it's afraid of acknowledging that maybe this isn't a simple issue by just having Black and his bros go full evil
Because and and user.
No kill rule is dumb but it's a symptom of a bigger problem. Capeshit is too afraid to try anything new so even if Batman executed all his villains in cold blood they'd all be back in the span of a few months because they're popular and DC isn't going to risk alienating fans from their cash cow franchises just to fill up some plot holes. Until death means something in comics there is no point getting rid of the no kill rule
THIS
>t. butthurt Authorityfag
>Gotham is functionally a sentient genius loci of evil, torture, and death
What.
Yeah batman is retarted in this way,he would save lot of lives by killing joker