[Spoiler] Rey is a nobody. This has been the biggest discussion point among fans since the last movie. Who are Rey’s parents? Is it Luke? Is she Ben Solo’s sister? Is she somehow related to Obi Wan? Nope. Turns out for now she’s just some random space junk planet baby who was left behind. She spends a good part of the movie questioning who her parents are, even Kylo pushes her to believe that there is nothing special about her lineage, that she doesn’t belong in the story. Her parents stepped off planet for some smokes and never came back. Yet, for some reason I don’t believe that’s the end of the parental story for Rey, even if some kid at the end picks up a broom with the Force showing that the Force is growing or just something random like Anakin’s story.
Rey and Kylo Ren have a major telepathic connection. Oh yeah, this is the reason I don’t buy the stall on Rey’s parentage. Rey and Kylo have a crazy strong telepathic connection. Like, they’ve got to be related or something right? Or perhaps they just both swiped right on Jedi Tinder and Star Wars is about to turn into an opposite attracts rom-com. They eventually touch hands, but not in the same place. It’s some new mystical Jedi stuff we’ve never seen before (thanks to Snoke).
Leia doesn’t die. We knew this, because upon Carrie Fisher’s death we knew that she had filmed scenes for the next two movies already. Kylo does attempt to kill his mother to check off that box (even though he is wrought with guilt over killing his father) but when he is unable to kill her, she’s blasted out into space anyway. She lives because apparently, she had a space Force field and flies herself back to safety.
Yoda returns. As we saw at the end of Return of the Jedi (that confusingly was altered to show a young Anakin even though he died much older) Qui-Gon Jinn’s training on becoming a[/spoiler]
Gabriel Scott
Yoda returns. As we saw at the end of Return of the Jedi (that confusingly was altered to show a young Anakin even though he died much older) Qui-Gon Jinn’s training on becoming a Force spirit holds strong. Rey heard Yoda when she touched the lightsaber in The Force Awakens. In The Last Jedi, Yoda appears as a Force spirit, but with some physicality in order to admonish Luke for still not understanding what the Force really is. Yoda and Luke destroy the ancient texts, bro hug and Yoda goes back to the Force spirit world.
Luke dies. Like we didn’t see this one coming. While Han was a bit of surprise, Luke dying was probably something we all predicted. Apparently Mark Hamill is more Mark Hamill than ever before, living on his little cynical island as a Jedi hermit. Rey finally gets him to talk, but not before expressing some concern about Rey’s abilities. In the end, Luke projects himself through some Force tech in order to fight Kylo (while remaining on his little island) which destroys him physically and like the Jedi masters before him, fades into nothing but a cloak and becomes a Force spirit.
Snoke dies. Rey finally gets to meet Snoke, with Kylo as her date. Snoke and Kylo have some back and forth, some emotions are shed and Kylo ends it with a lightsaber through Snoke’s gut. Then Kylo and Rey fight side-by-side against the Imperial Guards. After they fight together they try for a moment to convince the other to join their side of the force. This doesn’t work and they part ways. Kylo takes the crown from Snoke and is now the Supreme Leader of the First Order. Or maybe the Second Order.
Finn and Poe do things too. Finn gets a new partner and she’s a badass (played by Kelly Marie Tran). She lives. Poe leads a mutiny against Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo (Laura Dern) because she’s a tad incompetent.
Jackson Martin
So finn and poe are just sort of there? What do they do in the story?
Ayden Nguyen
so, why didn't Luke rush out to save his old friend Han?
Bentley Campbell
>So finn and poe are just sort of there? What do they do in the story?
Not much. Lot of people disappointed w/ tha movie...
Cameron Smith
so does rey just fuck off now? is she a force user or what?
Daniel Cruz
this sound horrible
Joseph Wilson
TO THE USERS & PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS SHIT IS FAKE OR THIS IS LARPING B.S. , ETC... : DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND KILL YOURSELF
Mason Brooks
>spoiler in the subject lol
Isaiah Smith
I literally don't understand how you fuck up so bad. It's like every mystery from VII is completely dropped.
Kevin Foster
>so, why didn't Luke rush out to save his old friend Han?
The person at the screening said nothing bout thaf
Lucas White
Ironic...
Adam Lewis
>matches up with all the other leaks HMM
Sebastian Martinez
>killing off Snoke in the second movie >he was a nobody anyway
This is probably the greatest evidence of this trilogy being slapdash nonsense. Overarching plot points and themes are just disgarded from movie to movie. You'd think Disney would've had at least a basic outline of each movie before making TFA.
Joseph Perry
>Ironic...
HUH??? DO ALL OF US A FAVOR NOW AND KILL YOURSELF.....
Jayden Gonzalez
THEY COPYING EPISODE VI.........
Hunter Perry
>In the end, Luke projects himself through some Force tech in order to fight Kylo (while remaining on his little island) which destroys him physically and like the Jedi masters before him, fades into nothing but a cloak and becomes a Force spirit.
How the FUCK was this greenlit? It doesn't make any goddamned sense.... its completely baffling
Connor Bell
Sounds like another typical marvel/Disney dogshit movie-- setting up another movie, shitty villain and token death so the movie isn't totally worthless.
Ryan Williams
>because she’s a tad incompetent. women
Connor Wilson
With Snoke dead and Rey and Kylo on decent terms by the end of this movie, what exactly are the stakes in Episode 9?
Henry Smith
>this sounds horrible
HUH???Lets all hope you ain’t a one them loser boys calling everythang fake in here....
Josiah Gomez
After reading the reviews this seems to be the most legit version of leaks so far.
Nicholas Ortiz
Snoke being killed off in this movie with another film in the trilogy to go just screams capeshit. They'll just bring in another cookie cutter disposable villain.
Aiden Bell
>With Snoke dead and Rey and Kylo on decent terms by the end of this movie, what exactly are the stakes in Episode 9?
Thats easy....
Kylo Ren ain’t gon be alive......... He obviously must die
Hudson Ortiz
Are any female stormtroopers killed?
Elijah Rodriguez
Abrams has always specialised in set ups without payoffs.
Cameron Wilson
Hux is gonna do some shit?
Owen Moore
>female stormtroopers...
Henry Walker
Finally a protagonist that isn't special because of blood lines.
Jordan Lewis
>set up obvious mysteries for people to ponder > the fans come to the logical conclusion of each mystery: Rey probably a kenobi or kylo’s Sister >be Disney obsessed with shocking the audience, refuse to use any predictable elements >in that effort to make it surprising, stray far away from anything logical or compelling > end up with film of disappointment and mediocrity Well done Disney. It’s the same reason they dont do anything from “legends” because they shit themselves if the audience can know what’s going to happen. So in a fun way, the idiot internet fans may have fucked themselves endlessly arguing over shit while Disney was taking notes on what not to do. Isn’t this fun, way to go retards.
Matthew Lewis
>HELP Help this thread from being taken down....It won’t last......
Ethan Brooks
They were in TFA senpai but didn't die. My dream is to see females killed off as much as males. True equality
James Gonzalez
If Kylo is redeemed and snoke is dead, who is even the big bad for the last movie?
Julian Jones
STOP MY SON
Evan Ortiz
Kylo Ren isn't a good villain. Which seemed deliberate in TFA. But with him killing Snoke and assuming control by the end of this movie, it just looks like bad writing and acting. If he's the big bad at the end of Episode 9 then what a waste of a trilogy.
Hux is another terrible villain, he's even scared of Kylo. They're going to have to pull another villain out of nowhere which is going to shoehorned as fuck.
Grayson Carter
>If Kylo is redeemed and snoke is dead, who is even the big bad for the last movie?
DIDN’T YOU READ THA SPOILERS???? HE STILL VERY BAD.
Luke Moore
Finn kills Phasma
Christopher Long
>Finn kills Phasma
And you completely 100% SUTE BOUT THIS
Cameron Wood
THEY COPIED A LOT OF RETURN OF THA JEDI.....
Jonathan White
Ya
Xavier Bennett
Sadly, you might be right. It's not about fulfilling writing, it's about "clever" writing. According to postmodern writing tactics, "clever" writing is just about going against any expectations.
Jaxson Turner
>Ya
So you swear on your mothers grave then....
Adam Edwards
Well thanks for the spoilers now i dont have to see this movie. Not like i was hype anyway, if they were thinking about ending the jedis its obvious its full on garbage at this point
Owen Scott
This guy is a liar
Grayson Clark
I swear on your trips
Elijah Rodriguez
Knowing last two movies, its gonna be lame and ends with a cliffhanger that makes you think there could be another movie coming, since they dont know how long theyre gonna keep doing star wars
Aiden Martin
>I swear on your trips
Wtf?..... do us a favor now and GTFO the site
Hunter Davis
>Han dying was a surprise WTF we all knew that was going to happen. Ford wanted out since ESB. He might have stayed on Jabba's wall or died in ROTJ. Instead he lived to get skewered by his emo son.
I think what is a surprise is how baldy they raped the characters. Especially Luke Skywalker. Nothing from before is sacred for these assholes.
Aaron Gutierrez
I wonder if they originally planned for Leia to confront Kylo in episode 9. She is shown having force powers in this one to set her up to succeed where Luke failed/died. CGI department is going to be working overtime if they're still planning something like this.
Lincoln Edwards
At least there's a fight between Kylo and Rey again?
Charles Davis
>Nothing from before is sacred for these assholes.
...They wanna make a name for themselves....?!?
Nathaniel Turner
>HE STILL VERY BAD more like whiny.
Camden Green
What a shitty name, then.
Thomas Martin
Can't say I really like the sound of any of this. It could be one of those situations where it sounds worse than it is upon viewing though. Meh.
Adrian Sullivan
they kill her off in a comic book
Colton Wilson
>WTF we all knew that was going to happen. Ford wanted out since ESB. He might have stayed on Jabba's wall or died in ROTJ. Instead he lived to get skewered by his emo son. >I think what is a surprise is how baldy they raped the characters. Especially Luke Skywalker. Nothing from before is sacred for these assholes.
You don’t think Han dying was good???? THATS ONE OF THA BEST THANGS TO HAPPEN SINCE THA ORIGINAL TRILOGY....
Carson Lewis
Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's going to be as bad as a lot of Sup Forums users think, but I do think it's proof that mystery box writing is a very bad idea.
Isaiah Taylor
Why do you type like you're insane
Thomas Cook
Calling it now, main force using bad guys in the third film will be [Spoiler]Ren's Parents[/Spoiler]
Hunter Sanders
>Why do you type like you're insane
Why are you so (excuse word) f’n stupid.....???HUH?
.... that person and you are like boys and ain’t real adults....
Joshua Barnes
Is it just me or does this sound like the most boring sterile plot for a star wars movie ever. I mean whats the big cool action scene? Mary sue and not her boyfriend fighting bodyguards?? Thia movie sounds like a joke.
Isaac Price
>luke ironically dies becuz "if you die in the game you die for reals"
THEY. CANT. KEEP. GETTING. AWAY. WITH. IT!
Justin Peterson
Nothing user. And that's the point safe, by the numbers, plain as can be nothing. Just make sure you go see it though, itd be way uncool to be the only one on facebook who didn't see it.
Matthew Hall
>Is it just me or does this sound like the most boring sterile plot for a star wars movie ever. I mean whats the big cool action scene? Mary sue and not her boyfriend fighting bodyguards?? Thia movie sounds like a joke.
Thats why you NEED to watch it come out....
Parker Jackson
>Rey and Kylo Ren have a major telepathic connection. Oh yeah, this is the reason I don’t buy the stall on Rey’s parentage. Rey and Kylo have a crazy strong telepathic connection. Like, they’ve got to be related or something right? Or perhaps they just both swiped right on Jedi Tinder and Star Wars is about to turn into an opposite attracts rom-com. They eventually touch hands, but not in the same place. It’s some new mystical Jedi stuff we’ve never seen before (thanks to Snoke).
LMAO I stopped giving shit about Star Wars long time ago, but I can't wait to see Tumblr SJWs to go batshit over this. I fucking love retarded drama like this.
Adam Rodriguez
# >Why do you type like you're insane
Why are you so (excuse word) f’n stupid.....???HUH?
.... that person and you are like boys and ain’t real adults....
Jace Clark
hehehheheheheheh
ohohohohohohohooh
Ethan Rivera
Americans are mentally disabled.
Ryder Miller
Also does this happen?
Jackson Nelson
The fuck is this shit. It's like nothing in previous trilogies matter anymore.
Fuck Disney
Jose Martin
I have no sides and I must kek
Jaxson Perez
>Also does this happen?
Yes that real life slut fucks ripped guy like Lee Stone..
Eli Jones
>Disney literally let Abrams set up a bunch of plot lines and characters in the opening film of the trilogy without any idea of whether or not they'd use any of it in the following movies
Isaac Perry
>its okay that rey is perfect without effort, shes ptobably related to luke there goes that excuse
Jaxson Harris
Wasn't Snoke supposed to be some super duper powerful Sith master? Or was it just something people had speculated?
Asher White
>ripped Its true she fucked lee stone.
James Cruz
This... did they have any fucking clue as to what their end-game was?
Absolutely abhorrent
Jose Scott
This is the most fake, retarded inept bullshit I have ever read. KYS
Joseph Williams
>Rey and Kylo have a crazy strong telepathic connection. Like, they’ve got to be related or something right?
Anybody got that Prime Jedi Seal?
Got a theory in mind that it's meant to be a disguised Yin/Yang symbol, and that Rey/Kylo are the second attempt by Snoke/Plagey/Prime Jedi to create a "Chosen One" to bring balance to the Force.
Anakin was attempt number 1. But he failed or the outcome wasn't what Plagey had in mind. So he instead created a dual being as his second attempt, a Yin and Yang set of twins (maybe to separate and distant parents), one mostly dark with an element of light and one mostly light with an element of dark, and this "crazy strong telepathic link" to help them find each other, or as a side effect of their Force-twinning and creation.
But I need to see that seal again and I can't bring it up on my searches.
Additional thoughts from leaks. Getting Kylo to kill Rey was a test. To make sure their bond was stronger than Snoke/Kylo's Master/Apprentice bond. Kylo goes more evil, but not towards Rey. They have a relationship that's supersedes everything else going on.
My guess would be that Snoke's death isn't final. He'll just resurrect again, or is now semi-inhabiting Kylo in some manner. The final move would be something that brings Rey and Kylo together again at some important moment. Fuse them together perhaps, like the two Dark Crystal races into higher beings.
Last thoughts: I don't think this is what JJ or the "story team" has in mind. I think they started out with Plagey being the big "KHAN!" reveal, but got spooked when fans guessed it immediately, same as with guessing LOST was Limo Island. So we have a shattered baseline story still existing, with new garbage and fuckery papered over the top of it. But the story is still there underneath, with enough bits poking out to see what may have been. And the general fact that stories tend to follow certain rules and momentum whether the author/s like it or not.
Jaxson Green
Anyone noticed how there's suddenly a bunch of posters on Sup Forums in the last couple days that don't know how to spoiler, don't know how to greentext and break all their posts up into small paragraphs?
Joseph Murphy
They threw out Lucas' treatment and just winged it.
Mark didn't sign up for this shit.
Jaxon Hill
>SPOILER ALERT. YOU’VE BEEN WARNED
Someone on Sup Forums couple days ago on Saturday got it right when he/she said Luke was getting killed...
Luke Nelson
It's not if you want a story with a satisfying ending. It is great if you want to make a tv show or series of movies that is supposed to run for years and you're trying to string the masses along.
That's why LOST was such a huge hit, writers kept adding mystery after mystery after mystery without caring how to explain most of them.
Who gives a fuck as long as people are watching, buying all the merchandise and the network is paying you millions of dollars, right?
James Rivera
I really like Stormtrooper aesthetic and just wish there was a movie about the empire. Pretty much everything about the empire is interesting. Even in the new trilogy you have the Knights if Rem to expand on and new designs.
stormstroopers always win an aesthetic victory. It's ridiculous the bullshit theyre doing to Phasma. After Luke, she's the key character I'm hoping to see more of.
The Last Jedi will be an overwhelmingly hated movie all around. They are totally fucking it up and basically doing series suicide now.
Josiah Walker
It's what happens when you have a women in charge of the franchise
Nicholas Wilson
>Leia creates some force field and flies back to safety even though she's never had any Jedi training
Jack Wright
They could have at least made TFA a self-contained film if they didn't know where they were going with it. Something they could expand on in future movies - like ESB did to ANH. The fact that they're ignoring numerous TFA setups and not caring about the lack of cohesion from one movie to the next is hilarious.
Jose Gray
I have a REALLY dumb prediction, but due to some quirk of this force projection device luke isn't dead, but got transported somewhere else, like Yavin, or Tattotine.