>Draw original stuff and some webcomics
>Hardly any views and barely any comments
>"Hey guys, this webcomic is quite good, give it a chance"
>"Eh, We're good"
>...Decide to draw Rule 34
>Tons of views and comments
Sigh...As an artist, I sorta regret doing this now
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But as a consumer, I promote it!
If your webcomic is just another gag a day or worse, a medieval epic starring elves, don't be surprised if no one gives a shit
You gain an audience through fanart and porn, and then once you've got that audience going you force them to enjoy your original stuff.
You must attract people to view your stuff and porn and lewds are the easiest ways.
Once you get a decent following then you can release your OC work on the masses
It sucks but true.
I've had tons of ideas with webcomics and once you actually do them, nobody wants to read them. I found it tougher when you don't know anyone and doing it alone.
But with drawing porn, you'll get that attention and views quickly.
It depends with what you draw, if it's some extreme fetishes then I wouldn't recommend it. Once you go into that route, it's kinda over
>artists have to draw porn to receive attention
I bet your art is probably mid-tier and your writing is horse shit. You've gotten what you deserve
You both sound a little jaded.
Obviously more established properties will get you more notariaty because its incredibly easy to search for and generally already has people following it. If you start completely from scratch with no friends, high connections, or establishment in some fandom it will be difficult for anyone to notice no matter how good you might be. I suppose I can understand being sad about this but you shouldn't be surprised.
Amorelucky is that you?
Bitch you got what you desrve. Now go back to drawing dog knots and being a big fat faggot.
You have to keep in mind that once you go porn or fan art and get the attention that's typically all people will care to see. Like any other form of E fame you get popular because you fill a niche and people only really want you because of that niche. So regardless on how much attention you get because of your fan art, people typically won't stick around to see your original stuff if you ever get tired of what you became famous for and most people eventually do. Even when you promote your other stuff simultaneously you'll never be known for your original stuff, the best you can hope for is some fan of your fan art posting a crappy picture of your original characters for your birthday or something.
Your original stuff may get more traction than previously but it'll never be enough to sustain you. It's better to be popular for your original stuff rather than your porn/other work. But that is very difficult I'm afraid, even with the right connections.
>g-guys my comic isn't bad! really!
Then put your money where your mouth is and post a fucking comic.
If it's good you'll get readers, if it's bad we'll make fun of you. Not posting it is admitting it is bad.
I don't have a comic.
People will put up with bad art more easily than they'll put up with a bad story or uninteresting characters. That's why your Rule 34 is successful. All it is is artwork, and nobody really cares how high quality it is as long as it shows the scene they want. The standards are the absolute rock bottom.
It probably wasn't a very good idea posting this on Sup Forums…you're bound to get more 'lol faggot kill urself' posts than actual support/valid advice.
What if your original stuff is porn?
>People will put up with bad art more easily than they'll put up with a bad story or uninteresting characters.
.
Makes a lot of sense thinking about it.
I want porn of that kangaroo!
#stuff dat pouch
>draw a new character with a fairly unique backstory
>nobody cares
>draw Princess Peach for the thousandth time
>people lose their shit
>draw smut all the time
>have no ideas for original characters or stories
>occasionally depressed thinking about wanting to be a "real artist" who makes things that are cool and interesting and not just boner fuel
>but if I wait long enough the feeling goes away and I'm back to happily cranking out degenerate filth
Lowered expectations.
It's hard to feel attached to a character you don't know much about. People on Tumblr tend to lose their shit when their drawing of their never before seen OC with a description "Here's ____, they're gay, and they love animals and their boyfriend uwu" don't get as many notes as their art of a video game character getting rammed in the ass.
its not a kangaroo you dumb dope
Sniff is pure like all Moomin characters.
How dare you even entertain the thought.
Well, this is porn. If you read it for the story then you might be doing it wrong.
go back to tumblr morbi
This.
It takes time for people to grow attached to a character. Spam that shit. Odds are at least someone's invested. If Sonic can do it for people then it's not like your OC needs to be top tier or anything.
The reason for this is simple: People have attachments to pre-existing characters. /34/ of Korra or Power Girl or some other famous character is going to get more attention than art of your OC because there is likely no reason for anyone to care about your OC. Even if you develop them into characters and give them backstories and whatnot, you would still have to produce something that makes people care about them - or, like a lot of furries do, put them in a shitload of porn and flesh out their personalities through non-porn works.
It's really simple, just do bother.
If you're any good at all people will look at your sfw stuff.
you could do what that one guy did and buy Sup Forums ads with art of your bustiest fetish bait.
What a god damn hero
And are spots for Sup Forums ads even available anymore?
>takes time for people to grow attached to a character.
Yes
>Spam that shit.
No.
The reason why established IPs reach a lot of people is because they're presented in a medium that's easy to consume.
There's a reason why Game of Thrones is watercooler talk and it sure as fuck isn't because of the books.
>I draw original stuff and some webcomics
No you don't.
Just do what every other artist on the internet does and draw mediocre porn
Maybe an obvious NSFW character who you refuse to draw porn of to cocktease your fans into hoping you draw of it one day
can we at least see your comic op?
>draw porn
>still don't get much commentary
I always thought the bar was set pretty low.
My porn must be terrible. ...Or not terrible enough.
>draw shitty ms paint drawings
>people like it
Maybe that character isn't as interesting as peach. Peach still has a lot more history behind her than some random oc with a "unique" backstory.
>spend 2-4 days on an image
>no one likes it
>spend 5-30 minutes on an image
>people like it
>"artist" bitches about how no one reads their webcomic
>refuses to post it
This shit incenses me.
Ugh. I know that feel.
There's always one of you in any thread like this.
No one wants to reveal their identity here because then as whiners or attention seekers. Artists post in these threads just so that they can have a nice, relaxing anonymous venting session.
You might as well stop asking.
Would anyone have read Cucumber Quest if it wasn't written by "that person who made the MGS/P4 comics," even though GD hates her old work?
Traction isn't something you can dismiss so easily. Maintaining a fraction of an established fanbase is better than building a new fanbase from scratch. Pride is only an obstacle to success.
Whoa, I must be having a stroke.
That should have said:
No one wants to reveal their identity here because then they'll be seen as whiners or attention seekers. Artists post in these threads just so that they can have a nice, relaxing anonymous venting session.
I've grown instantly attached to OCs before because they had catchy designs and the art conveyed their personalities well.
Illustrating scenes and short comics is helpful in attaching people to your characters without expecting an investment in something long-form. Just a picture of an OC is boring, show me your writing.
Because then people would actually see the full story and know that they're shit and probably don't deserve the views they're begging for.
Jesus, this guy.
Dude, it takes time to build an audience, slow and steady wins the race, ya? Just work on the webcomic and use you porn art to attract attention to it.
>Moomin reaction image
Lon?
>Show me your writing
Notice how you mentioned visual mediums sell the OCs before that final statement. Those are easier to consume than walls and walls of text.
sorry but if you want to get anywhere in the current internet artist game, you'll need to have given someone an erection at some point
every thicc elf girl you draw is another blowjob for a potential employer or business partner.
If you want to tell a story that people will actually read than write a book
who...?
people are already attached to pre-existing things. it's to be expected that they would care about that more than something original. Especially if you don't have the fanbase behind it yet.
You're not an artist.
post something of yours
OP, you can't start this kind of thread and not post your work. If you really have produced that much content without much response prior to doing R34, I dunno, I would think either you were just really unlucky, or your work needs improvement. I think the "you need to do porn to galvanize popularity" isn't necessarily true.
Who knows, today could be the "big moment" when your non-porn work finally catches on. So, come on, post your comics and shit.
Your fault for being an attention thirsty whore.
You can't talk about being a "true artist" once you sell out willingly when you don't need to.
eh I do have a fanart blog and an original stuff blog and there are always some people that started to follow my fanart blog and then my original stuff blog because they like my art
fanart is just the easiest way to attract people and gaining fans is hard
oh and maybe your original stuff just isn't interesting?
What user is really saying in their heart: "OP, you sold out... But: you can redeem yourself IF you post your work. The time for judgement has come!"
>unique backstory
Are you fucking serious with this? No one gives a shit about backstory, they care about what a character is connected to. No one gives a shit about your coldsteal the hedgehog or zone-tan ripoff unless it's get associated with something people care about.
Go to Reddit if you want a fucking hugbox.
The trick is to be an artist that /wants/ to draw r34 and fetish shit. Not nearly enough male human on female animal art out there for my tastes.
I think what they mean is you need to give the reader a reason to care. I'm not sure what format you presented this "backstory" but if you posted a picture with an info dump, it's going to grab the attention of very few people. I would say you need a story to tell first with the character, or avoid starting with a backstory altogether.
OP im only on this board for webcomics
please post yours
i cant take another thread about poorly written mary 'n' gary sues in tights
You don't need a reason to care if the art is good. The issue is people do a character design on a white background and then can't figure out why everyone isn't flipping their shit over just another quirky tumblr drawing.
While true, it isn't the only way. There are a lot of decent and popular webcomics with pretty shitty art.
Though, yeah if you are hoping to capture attention with a single post or whatever, good art is the easiest/quickest way.
>People will put up with bad art more easily than
ign.com
I've often wondered how well Umberto Eco's test applies to comics:
> criterion for deciding whether a film is pornographic or not, and it is based on the calculation of wasted time.
Some bitch on Tumblr.
Draw character with slighlty large breasts but completely covered up, get flooded by comments like "i want her to slap my face with her big smelly tits" and "feed me mommy".
Never draw a big tit again.
>working on comission comics while also working on your original stuff
>never drawn porn
>first part of the comic I'm making (is an anthology) is explicitly a comic about how porn will fuck up your psyche and to a lesser extent your health
>just dawned on me that that's probably going to piss off people who draw porn for a living and the kind of uber rich people who will buy 2000 dollars worth of porn
>>first part of the comic I'm making (is an anthology) is explicitly a comic about how porn will fuck up your psyche and to a lesser extent your health
sounds fucking shit anyway, better stop now than waste too much time on this shit
But I just told you the basic subtext, I didn't even tell you anything about the actual comic
Are you just offended?
What do you guys think of this? Do I have what it takes to become a midly e-famous
...
eh
I can relate
>make animated parodies of popular stuff
>want to do OC animations
>with how shitty youtube algorithm is, due to the low views its likely gonna get i won't be able to make it regularly since i'll need to do parodies for $
and yet, you secretly enjoy it
Personally, this is why I'm learning art after having attained a stable job in something else.
>Getting a normal job before thinking of working on commissions for a living
This nigga knows what's good. Just make sure if you work on commissions WHILE you have a primary job to hoard all your earnings into the bank. You know, where it belongs. Don't buy games or stupid shit.
"eh" user here. Forget about the prospect of followers/views and popularity, and focus on the quality of your work. It takes a long time to gain an audience when you're posting original content, and sometimes that audience never comes. However, it's more likely to come the more consistently you post your stuff. The more you practice, the better your stuff looks, and the more traction you gain as an artist.
tl:dr; just keep going
>he doesn't trade stock
>Being under the age of 55
>Falling for the investment meme
Once I hit 70 my shoes are going to be bigger than your house.
I'll definitely keep these in mind. Thank you both.
Good luck, you can do it!
>he feel for the clean lines and pleasing aesthetic meme
>he fell for the "good art doesn't need clean lines" meme
Draw a straight line. I want to analyze your """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""technique"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""".
Not to mention people on and off site will constantly shit on them for outing themselves on Sup Forums.
he's right though
it's good
>Check out some guy's blog
>They write comments on every lewd art they reblog
>You know the kind of comments
>"MMmhhh do you want to slurp on my uncut microdick, momma? :P"
>"oohhhhh what i wouldn't give to taste that roast beef!"
>uncut
Disgusting
>liking jewcock
Starting your fame here is one of the worst choices you can make.
If you do something that we don't like you'll get shit on. If you start ignoring us, we get jealous and start hating you.
hey man, everyone has their preferences but at least my choice wasn't made for me at birth
>you force them to enjoy your original stuff.
you monster
Uncut dick is easier to draw for some people, but being uncut in real life is fucking cancer. Enjoy women never wanting to go anywhere near your dick.
Is there any good ongoing cape webcomics? Without or without original characters?
is there any interest?
perpendicular?
>Enjoy women never wanting to go anywhere near your dick.
3/10 bait
>Uncut dick is easier to draw for some people
really i thought the opposite is true
Yo is this a thread to talk/describe/bitch about E-Artists!?