Here's the fix:
>no Leia superman. instead she uses the force to create a shield around her and other commanders to deflect the blast. She still gets hurt but saves people. It looks less stupid while still demonstrating what they wanted
>the light speed kamikaze attack is nerfed. She hits snokes ship and explodes it but without that humongous explosion that destroys everything else too. Solves the huge plothole the original scene created of "Why don't they do it all the time?"
>Rey doesn't come to Kylo on the ship, instead they meet elsewhere. Snoke found her location through the Force connection and sent Kylo and the Knights of Ren to capture or kill her. She's joined by Finn and another soldier guy/girl that gets introduced INSTEAD of the chinese girl. The whole Casino thing is completely eliminated.
>The Kylo vs Luke thing happens but with Snoke and ACTUAL Luke (no projection). They face off but both get blasted backwards at the climax and the First Order retreats when BACKUP ARRIVES (the one they sent the signal for)
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>The Knights of Ren fight is epic with Rey fighting Kylo and the rest of the knights chasing the two others through some epic maze or some shit. They fire at them but obviously the Knights are superior. Poe shows up and manages to evacuate Finn and that other guy/girl but Rey stands behind. We get a scene between her and Kylo and are left unsure if she turned or not (he still proposes the same thing -- forget everyone else and let's join up)
>Luke never tries or thinks to kill Kylo. Instead, he follows Kylo one night and finds him with Snoke. He attacks and easily overpowers Snoke but Kylo interferes and Luke realizes he's already failed. Snoke slithers away and Kylo runs and burns the temple with his followers.
>Snoke is revealed to be a Voldemort-esque figure who drains power from others. In that flashback he's incomplete and weakened but has since grown in strength. We get hints of how he actually gets his power through disturbing screams of people that Kylo brings to him so he can drain them.
Easier fix would be to just delete the movie from existance
Just delete the fucking movie
I am still in shock at how they managed to make the worst Star Wars film ever
Leia surviving the vacuum of space by Superman flying her way back to the ship just set the whole tone of the movie. Dumb and pointless
Any subsequent *inhales* posts are completely justified, how this is getting almost unanimous critical praise is mind boggling
They intended to portray Kylo as beyond broken at the thought that his mother has died. The shield thing, while less retarded, wouldn't have worked in this regard.
Yes it would because he wouldn't have seen it. He'd still think they were blasted
>ACTUAL Luke
But then what is Bigger Luke going to do?
Saw it last night. It was fucking terrible.
there is no simple fix
The REAL fix: Gas the Disney kikes
no one cares what you wanted to happen in your retarded super hero movie, faggot
The casino subplot was so redundant, and to bring in Maz for that brief scene. Eurgh.
Here's the real fix:
>delet Nu Wars from existence and adapt Dark Empire instead
Here is the fix. Burn everything retaled to this movie and the previous.
Do another trilogy without any character from previous trilogy, 100-200 years later with good characters and a real plot.
>being an adult that watched capeshit and soywars
grow up faggots
Who could have predicted Disney would unironically make the worst Star Wars film of all time? I'm stunned
Yeah you and everyone who previously said “at least the new movies will be better than the prequels”. Hindsight is 20/20.
More space battles and less stupid shit. The whole casino subplot could've been some random space battle and it would've been so much better. But there was so much stupid shit that they should just redo the movie from scratch instead of making episode 9.
What was even the point of Fin and Rosie's entire mission which they failed right up until the end anyway? It was as you say, redundant, and worse, it was so boring, when they looked down at the racetrack I had slight visions of fucking podracing for a minutet here.
Can they even decide if Kylo is salvagable or the worst dark evil force the galaxy has ever known? How is it Luke was able to forgive Darth fucking Vader but Kylo has a bit of darkness and suddenly Luke is down with murdering innocent kids in their sleep.
The team up between Kylo and Rey was the first time the movie felt fun.
Here another fix: Lucas come back
I honestly don't mind kylo or some of the new characters, most of them are fine. It's just the way they use the new and old characters and all the stupid shit that's happening.
I forgot to mention, Luke shows up in his old battered X-wing with algae and shit. We don't see him lifting it out of the water but it's implied and is a nice, subtle throwback to Episode V
so he can keep editing OT and make abysmal garbage trilogies?
I am not saying it would be worse but it won't be much better
You know your movie is trash when the Sup Forums fix'd threads have to rewrite most of the major plot points.
The casino part was awful but honestly the space fights are extremely boring too. There's no stake. Not at one point was I expecting a major character to die during the big fights, except when finn looked like he was doing an independence day on the battering ram (which would have been better than the cliche 'don't kill what you hate, save what you love' speech)
The rey/Kylo scenes were the only exciting thing about the movie.
>>What was even the point of Fin and Rosie's entire mission which they failed right up until the end anyway
Minority representation and apparently it worked since I have not seen a single fucking review calling it out on how redundant it was
>be me, huge Star Wars fan, have drawn conclusions for episode IX based on TLJ
>new death star will be a Dyson Sphere
>Kylo Ren is pretty much like the grim reaper. He reaps the souls of force users, lightsaber is the scythe
>at the store I notice some of the helmetless kylo rens are missing a tooth
>there is a connection with Poe
>Snoke is guarded by two former jedi knights of yore
>Leia, Kylo's mother's ship is like a hearse
>gets blown up before they can make a leap to hyperspace
>put it all together
>REAP LIGHT TOOTH IS POE STORE YORE MOTHER DYSON HEARSE LEAP TWO KNIGHT
They could have at least casted Rose's hotter Asian sister
Why do we get the fat chink instead
That entire first half is a mess, the huge dilemma is that we gotta' float through space for 16 hours or whatever it is hoping Finn and Rosiecan get through the big day out in time to save them, we're led to believe this is a good lan, then Leia turns on Poe because it's apparently a stupid idea, then it turns out he was fucking right and everyone gets fucking blasted until the woman onthe ship kamikazes everyone).
Menwhile, all the hype we had at the end of Episode 7 was squanderedwhen Luke had barely any interaction with Rey at all, then out of nowhere Ghost yoda pops up and sets a tree on fire, so that's cool.
Agreed, doesn't this mean that Snoke was one of the worst characters in theseries for someone so relatively highup in power and plot focus, I don't thik 2 dimensional evenb egins to cover that guy because they killed him off which to be fair is the best thing that they could have probably done to him.
All I wanted was to see Luke go solo against the Knights of ren... We'll never get to see Luke kick ass after 40 fucking years.
Only thing I can think of is that it set up the traitor as a returning villain for the next movie...yeah, pretty weak.
They really should've had a small timeskip between the episodes instead of continuing right where episode 7 left off.
>Luke can astral project to other planets (this ruined the fact that we thought he deflected all those heavy shots too)
>woops now Luke is kill
Guess Hamill, like Harrison ford wanted to be killed off too?
It's like you seriously have never seen the prequels.
He didn't, he wanted his character to have a bigger role and be handled properly. He liked what Colin Trevorrow had planned and told Rian Johnson he hated everything about what he was doing with Luke
Who can blame him?
With this film, the trilogy is pretty much more Expanded Universe now than some of the actual Expanded Universe.
This is Star Wars not Destiny they still would have died.
you motherfucker lol
They should have let Leia die there OR be the one to torpedo the cruiser into the fleet, makes no sense to keep her alive, now there is no good way to explain her absence in IX
>autism
Here's a (you) for the effort
At least the prequels had soul and ambition.
The whole "tracking through hyperspace" thing seemed like something out of Star Trek
Love my mummy
Oh so basically you want it to be formulaic and familiar as hell
Great ideas we got a true thinker here
But bruh, didn't you like that TENSE standoff through the first half of the film where the Empire drifted towards the Rebels, and the Rebels drifted away the Empire?
Surprisded they didn't make a new fucking Death Star that could fire back through time or some-oh wait, they did have a mini death star apparently, according to Finn, lel.
Yeah, that sucked but I was actually talking about it getting too sci-fi for a star wars movie.
Yeah, Star wars is supposed to be more like a medieval fantasy than sci-fi. They didn't get that memo
Why didn't the Tie-Fighters at the end not just do a sweep on the trenches from the side and clear everyone out?
Not sure if that was sarcasm but yes
Does Ghost Yoda's actions in this move have any kind of precedent in the films? It happens so casually I'm somewhat taken aback by it, Luke ispractically like, 'oh hai Yoda'.
damn son
Snoke should’ve been scrapped, would’ve been better to have the bug bad be a hidden apprentice of sideous, one so obsessed with the sith that he was completely separated from the empire (perhaps he was a survivor of anakins massacre who hated Vader). Creates a faction of the empire’s remnant completely dedicated to sith dominion, calls out to Ren and remains the big bad until the end of the new trilogy.
>have rose support leia instead of do casino shit with finn
>force sensitive finn captured by kyle, deeply tempted to turn to the dark side and fix the system on the empire from within, thinking he will eventually become powerful enough to defeat kylo
>rey senses this through some dreamshit and it ruins her training and she wants to grab for power too to match kylo, has a huge conflict with luke interpersed with flashbacks to how he had arguments with kylo/ben as a child
>kylo kills leia, though she turns some of his attacks aside with some chirrut style stuff and leaves him questioning what he's doing
>prompts luke and rey to leave together, perhaps poe came to find them with chewie/the droids/PORGS after leia is killed
>snoke is a valkorion/tenebrae style character who hops bodies and becomes more and more powerful each time he evades death
>rey vs knights of ren trying to rescue finn
>finn turns phasma, who has been forcing down misgivings over the order, but she sacrifices herself to slow down kylo so finn and rey can escape
>luke kills snoke but he possesses him
>luke is now snuke
Or, just delete the film. It's not hard to hash out fanfic tier greentext star wars movies that are better than tlj.
the prequel argument isn't going to work anymore. this movie is a new level of bad.
Alternate timeline for the new Star Wars movies where after the events of the new trilogy, due to rampant Force users springing up all over unchecked and with no training required to harness the power of the Force, people flying through outer-space without space suits, astral projection assassins killing people and committing crime, Force ghosts being able to interact with the physical world, hyper space suicide bombers crashing into various civilian centers, no Jedi archives or history to guide any of these new Force users, and so on and so on, a splinter faction breaks off tapping into the full power of the Dark Side. Without any guidance of any kind, they begin to trying to take control of reality itself. Rey and her new band of Jedi (which looks a lot like a sci-fi Burger King Kids Club) get to work trying to stop this renegade faction since reality begins to warp. The series culminates with Rey and her team being defeated and this group of Dark Jedi basically bringing about a cosmic Ragnarok in which the universe itself is destroyed, fade to white, then you hear "Master Skywalker" as Luke wakes up from a meditation, smiles at his padawans, and one of them beings to tells him about a bad vision of the future that she had. It's a young Rey. Luke looks at her and begins instructing her and the rest of his students that "the future is always in motion and can be changed." You'd have to CGI Hamill to be a little younger since this would be Luke post ROTJ, but you erase the nu-trilogy and yet still tie it altogether including Yoda's quote about the future not being set in stone and showing that Luke learned from his meditations previously and decided to find Rey when she was young to spare her the upbringing she had on Jakku and because with her there, young Ben never falls under Snoke's influence. You would have to jump ahead after this by a couple generations, but any new movies would take place in this universe where the nu-trilogy was prevented.
This. Everytime we went back to the rebels I lost interest.
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