>www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vtf0MszgP8 Why is Michael Bay allowed to keep raping the Transformers franchise? Nobody likes his movies anymore. Hell, Age of Extinction bombed domestically and didn't make as much money as his predecessors. It took the Chinese government to save them.
So why continue to waste money to keep raping the Transformers?
Why not reboot the franchise?
Why not reboot the franchise and make it more like the original cartoon? (Aka the REAL Transformers). I mean, that's literally what everyone wants. They could make 500 billion dollars easily if they made it like G1. G1 is what everyone loves and wants. It's why the comics borrow from the cartoon and not Bay's diaper poop yard. And instead of hiring Bay for the fiftyth time, why not hire someone that's doesn't rape franchises? (Seriously, it was bad enough they let him rape Transformers. But then they let him rape TMNT) Why not hire someone like JJ Abrams or Joss Whedon? Y'know, directors with talent that make good movies (shocking idea I know).
Why not make the Transformers the actual stars of their own movies???!!!!!!! Why not have a Optimus Prime that saves people instead of killing them???!!! Why not have Transformers that is FUN and not people burnt into skeletons with buildings blowing up??
So why is this so hard for Hollywood to understand?
Benjamin Jones
i want to see G.I. Joe fixed first honestly
Camden Johnson
Bay gets off on it
Hudson Myers
>Transformers: will Bay ever stop raping it?
T. guy who hasn't watched any other TF series, like ever, and probably was too young to actually take in the original series when he did see it (if at all) and hasn't ever watched it in it's entirety since
Carson Cruz
Same thing as everything OP. Fatcat corporate fucks doing stupid shit. It's been the story since art became a marketable thing.
Brandon Perry
Even if they reboot it only fans of the TF series will see it. Your average movie watcher would have no idea it's a reboot and not watch it anyway, thus bombing and thus making the studio not waste thier time with another TF film ever agian.
So in reality if you want the TF films to be good go watch them and maybe we'll eventually get a good one
Kayden Taylor
If Prime actually looked like this in the movies I'd seriously consider going to watch them.
As they are right now I give zero fucks.
Jaxson Wood
>Why not reboot the franchise and make it more like the original cartoon? But it is like G1. Just corny in a "macho heroic grit and guts" way rather than in a "war for kids with magic robots" way. Kinda like G2 comics.
Tyler Powell
>bombed domestically
Stop making shit up.
Charles Ramirez
>waste money That's the thing though, they're not wasting money, they're MAKING money
Bentley Stewart
Go away, Bay.
Jack Fisher
When was the last time you watched the G1 cartoon?
Carter James
Also,
>Joss Whedon
You shut the fuck up. You shut your fucking mouth and you never open it again.
Ryan Bell
But they could be making MORE money by making good Transformers movies based off of G1. And MORE people would love them for it. People are already getting tired of Bayformers. They need to change and evolve.
Aaron Watson
Joss Whedon is one of the best directors of the century. Just watch the Avengers.
He would be an excellent job at fixing the Transformers franchise (though he may be busy with Batgirl).
Blake Clark
I fucking love Transformers and hate the TF movies.
But you're fucking retarded.
Julian Wilson
I'm all for taking inspiration from G1 but I'm not a fan of rehashing everything about it
Dylan Foster
Know who loves G1?. China.
Aaron Watson
>So why is this so hard for Hollywood to understand?
I don't think you get it, son.
Adam Morgan
The original and Dark of the Moon were good. Fight me.
Jeremiah Watson
>Age of Extinction bombed Oh shit, my 1.1B box office, how could i ever afford to make another shit sequel?
Landon Rodriguez
I don't know, "Good" is a pretty strong word, in context.
"Less bad", absolutely. I might even go so far as to say "Watchable"
Justin Gomez
They were. As Transformers stories, at least. So was AoE.
As actual films judged separately from Transformers, none of them are better than "forgettable summer popcorn entertainment".
Gabriel Sanders
I still have a soft spot for the first movie
Adam Ortiz
China saved AoE. You can't keep relying on China forever.
Easton Brown
Since its Easter, lets try using god.
God, please let a big rock fall on Bay's head.
Jacob Rivera
Yeah. Prime was a bit of an edgelord, but at least he had bits of his G1 personality.
>"Bumblebee, stop lubricating the man!!!"
Carter Hughes
No
Christian Fisher
Even without China it was still the fifth highest grossing film of the year in the US.
Connor Jenkins
JJ Abrams essentially goaded bay into directing this new movie, and the execs just see Transformers as a toy movie that they can just keep making to get money.
You're better off just making up your won transformers story.
Robert Allen
I wish Disney would buy out Transformers.
Jaxon Clark
Nobody likes his movies, and yet they somehow continue to churn out fucktons of money for Paramount. If you can tell me why people willingly watch these cinematic abortions despite knowing that they're total crap, I can tell you how to get Bay to stop making them.
Owen Hernandez
No Fuck you, Disney would never have the balls to put out something like Beast Wars, or even TF Prime
So sick of this non TF fan spamming this shit lately
Owen Stewart
>You're better off just making up your won transformers story.
This is will also allow you the opportunity to write for IDW
Matthew Brown
Its like he delights in making every aspect of Transformers as dumb as possible.
"How can I make this more stupid?" Asks Bay as he oversees his latest Montage Explosion,
Dominic Young
I'm fairly lenient on how the characters look, I'm less tolerant of taking huge liberties with the characters, on the few occasions the TFs are allowed to have characters.
Jack Davis
ITT non Transformers fans give their opinions about Transformers. Simply amazing.
Ian Wright
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Jayden Morris
Marvel created many of the characters, and the comics, especially the UK comic , pretty much shaped the entire franchise.
Josiah Garcia
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Robert Perez
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Aiden Watson
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David Ross
The rendering looks outdated as all hell but the animation pretty impressive
Jose Sanchez
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Jose Collins
>implying Disneybwoukdnt make the best Transformers movie >implying they wouldn't treat Transformers with respect >implying we wouldn't have awesome spin-offs for several characters like Ratchet, Bumblebee, Jazz, Starscream, and Windblade >implying a crossover with the MCU wouldn't be awesome (especially Spider-Man) *slaps face* Idiot
Hunter Scott
Marvel had nothing to do with Disney when those came out, and Marvel was better before Disney had anything to do with Marvel, Disney had a big hand in ruining Marvel
And no, they didn't shape the entire franchise, the majority of the fandom doesn't care or read the comics, but pays more attention to animated fiction, toys, or both, comics are the niche genre of the niche fanbase
Justin Anderson
Even the most shallow of Transformers shows has more lore and deepness than the MCU, which is just teen girl fodder
Even the Bayformers which you could argue is just teen boy fodder, is better than teen girl fodder. You're not a TF fan. Fuck off.
Carson Ortiz
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Samuel Hill
> We will never see this in live action.
Austin Morgan
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Levi Perry
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Dylan Martinez
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Cooper Watson
>how to get Bay to stop making them
There is another way, but it's unethical.
Samuel Harris
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Joseph Sanders
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Christian Myers
>Disney makes a TF movie
>Optimus Prime is a young hipster who was invented by Tony Stark >Megatron is a human, not a robot, who happened to name himself Megatron >Optimus Stark Prime has a dance scene to sell dancing Optimus Stark Prime toys
Yeah no
Adam Hill
>yfw you realized all these Bayfags are 18 year olds that were introduced to the franchise when they saw the first movie when they were 8
Don't be mad at them anons, it's not their fault they're retarded.
James Wood
Drawing it into the absurd is a sign of surrender. Thank you for conceding.
I think Disney doing Transformers would be fucking amazing.
Jackson Sanchez
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Jaxson Parker
>raping my 30 minute toy commercials
look fag I love me some G1 as much as the next fag but let's not pretend the Transformers are high art
Brayden Reyes
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Grayson Rogers
an argument loses legitimacy the moment you bring the notion that people are raping it or your childhood into it
not because of PC feefees but because it's the cheapest, whiniest, manchildest way to make your point possible
Jace Morales
Yeah, we need something like pic related.
Elijah Ortiz
G1 fans are loud obnoxious faggots that are never happy and will never be happy with anything they get.
Let G1 rust away.
Adrian Russell
Beast Wars/Beast Machines was the lowest point of the franchise.
Jose Scott
Disney can't even do Thor without having to make it a romcom to appeal to normies, or making Iron Man bow to typical Disney scenarios like "cute kid bonds with his non dad"
They would do far worse than Bay has done period.
Daniel Lee
>not Energon >not Kiss Players >not MikeCosta
Fuck off and take you geewunn faggotry with you
Jason Bell
OP is not a G1 fan, he's a MCU faggot who's false flagging as a G1 fan, who has absolutely no clue about G1 He's been doing this for a while because he got told off in TF threads multiple times
Justin Diaz
>Beast Machines I hated that to but what he said.
John Miller
What if they pick Cybertron games style?
Logan Morales
No, but what an idea to conjure with.
>A Japanese Transformers series >Which takes and respects all core concepts and stays true to the characters >Aimed at a mature audience >Animated well - really well
That would be a stronger world - a stronger, loving world, to die in.
Jaxson Parker
Yeah because Transformers was NEVER about romcom.
It's most popular comic by far is a literal sitcom on a ship but Transfomers NEVER EVER had comedy. It was always MANLY ROBOTS BEING MANLY AND WAAAAAAARRRRRHHHHGHGHFHHWJKLMFJ!!!!!!!
Justin Howard
>terrible CGI >tiny cast >most of the toyline is 'original the character do not steal' because rendering new characters in terrible CGI is expensive and hard
Fuck off and take your Only 90's Kids Will Get This faggotry with you
Christopher Allen
How could it be rape if they love it?
Colton Davis
>terrible CGI >tiny cast
You mean like every single thing in the entire fucking franchise outside of the shitty G1 cartoon?
Take you shit cartoon and cry while jerking off to the DVDs and fuck off.
Camden Young
Let's be honest transformers has always been about "how can we make the most profit from a story of two warring factions with the most budget cuts we can manage". Almost every thing we don't like in this series has been the result of a corporate decision.
G1 is a shitfest of poor animation and plot changes but we still like it for things like pic related. Prime's got great action but budget constraints meant goodbye good story and sayonara breakdown. Tbh as bad as the bay movies are I liked them better than predacons rising.
My one non profit related whine is that I really miss the whole thing G1 and animated had with "yeah humans 100% know we exist lets stroll through downtown detroit who gives a shit".
I've got my own idea for a transformers show but it's borderline tumblr concepts posting so I'll just say it won't sell toys and leave it at that.
Henry Gomez
Do it, Bay.
Its the logical conclusion of his arc.
Oliver White
Actually you probably can at this point.
Isaiah Cruz
That might be the dumbest thing I have ever read on a Transformers thread.
Sebastian Ortiz
No he's the nostalgic fan. Like every internet personality is.
They don't remember ANYTHING about the G1 cartoon except a few bits and pieces, and 95% of those bits and pieces are from the '86 movies so they think that the show was the same as the movie and don't remember the "Decepticons get drunk" episode or B.O.T or the bajillion AKOM episodes.
They think in their nostalgic mind that every episodes was animated just like the movie and had this badass war action scenes non stop when in reality it was 80% shitty one lines and le quips and every episode is "decepticons take over some human technology, Optimus comes in and saves the day".
Lincoln White
Nobody cares about the comics. Especially not the modern ones, it's probably the biggest minority in the fandom (people who care about the comics above other canons)
Jacob Thomas
lol stay mad over Reboot I mean Beast Wars
Adrian Morgan
There's a huge difference between Marvel and Disney proper.
Bentley King
Stay a crybaby G1 faggot that will never be happy about anything ever because Hasbro will never bring back g1 the way you want it.
Aaron Thomas
wait are you shitting on Reboot too, what are you doing old man?
Nicholas Brooks
Beast wars had literal Loony Tunes slap stick comedy and an entire episode revolve around a fart.
G1 had lines like "a booby trap that captures boobies" and plots like "Megatron gets drunk and Auobots shing down an go into his head to battle his evil toughs"
Animated was a literal comedy show full with human villains.
Saying that transformers is serious business is fucking delusional even by faggoty geewunn standards.
Luke Rogers
You can't do Walt Simonson as a movie without making it either ridiculous or so artsy only a handful of people could appreciate it. The only thing that bothers me about the movies is how they underplayed Volstagg.
>Not Pat Lee
You, sir, have shit taste.
>we still like it for things like pic related.
And the music. And that weird, undefinable sort of gravitas it had, which it really shouldn't have because it was goofy.
Maybe because the characters were all archetypes. That kept one at arm's length, so it was more like an old-fashioned story or even myth than a modern sitcom or soap series.
Isn't it actually one of the plot points of 'The Last Knight'?
>Ali Baba buys the brand wholesale >New series is set in China, animated in China, Chinese spoken and all the Transformers have Chinese names >And you can't really say anything about it because why would it make more sense for alien robots to speak English
Jonathan Allen
I disagree with you, and I say this as an actual G1 fan who unironically loves G1 and has actually watched it multiple times in recent years.
OP is not a G1 fan, I'm telling you, he's a faggot who has been bashing Transformers movies for years at this point but claiming to be a "g1 fan" in order to justify his claims of why the Bayformers suck so bad and why Marvel is so superior. I know this is an anonymous imageboard, but we all have those moments of seeing somebodies shitposts so many times we recognize their patterns, this is that guy, he's simply not a Transformers fan at all, he's just posing as one, which might be part of what you're saying too but this guy is just butthurt that people like Transformers period and is using this "g1 fan" thing as a means to an end.
In a way you're not wrong because I feel like we agree with one another but are arguing semantics, this guy and people like him are simply not fans whatsoever, not even "nostalgic fans", they're simply not fans, but poseurs pretty much
Kevin Carter
So who do you want to see take over the franchise after Bay accidentally explodes himself? I think Neill Blomkamp could salvage Bay's garbage.
Austin Robinson
>most of the toyline is 'original the character do not steal' >rendering new characters in terrible CGI is expensive and hard How do the two halves of this sentence even correlate?
Zachary Gonzalez
At this point most of Sup Forums is probably too young to have been even within Beast War's age range when it was new, so I'm not sure what audience you're ranting to. You want TFW2005 is you want to talk about the good old days with 30-40 something neckbeards.
Jace Baker
Well Travis Knight is in line to direct the Bumblebee spinoff movie
Asher Anderson
>Nobody cares about the comics
I care a lot about the comics. Maybe you should say "As far as I know, not many people care about the comics" instead.
If Transformers were serious business it would be so fucking dark nobody except real sickos could enjoy it.
'All Hail Megatron' was an attempt at that and it was a failure.
Parker Powell
IDW has homosexual robots. What's your point? That you're not a TF fan either, but a fan of slashfics?
Ok, just admit that, you're not a TF fan and just like gay stories to flick your bean to because you're a fat whale of a pig, I won't judge you if you admit it
Noah Powell
>hurr durr gay robots durr
Every time
Levi Gray
The epitome of seriousness in all of transformers is that G1 episode where Starscream went back in time, got shat on by birds, kidnapped a princess, crushed gold into spaghetti, forced rumble to make bird shit bombs, got btfo by a wizard then went back to the present to cry in megatrons arms like the 15 year old fuck he is
Austin Johnson
Joe Johnston is someone I've always thought was a solid choice, he does competent blockbusters.I feel like Guillermo Del Too is too much of a meme option.
Lucas Gutierrez
>All Hail Megatron Think you meant 'Last Stand of the Wreckers' Nothing but robo gore and torture porn.
Aaron Green
>They need to change and evolve >based off of G1
This is the fucking problem right here.
EVERY Transformers series keeps itself chained to G1, doing the same shit over and over with a different coat of paint. No matter how "different" every series appears to be, they all end up saying the same thing, "wasn't G1 awesome guys? Huh? Huh? Remember this stuff from when you were a kid? Let me jerk of your nostalgia boner for you!"
What Transformers really needs to do is dump G1. Desperately clinging to a toy commercial made in the 80's is only holding the franchise back instead of letting it evolve.
Landon Evans
I'd go for Del Toro too but he has way too many projects that have yet to enter production