Post your favorite starships from your favorite franchises (bonus points for obscure ones). For comfyness purposes, lets try to ignore nu-star-wars for now and focus on classic star wars or other similar franchises.
>tfw you will never see the Executor glide screaming into a planet's atmosphere bathed in flames from reentry Independence-Day-style.
>tfw you will never see the Executor deploy its skyscraper sized landing gear struts and flatten entire city blocks upon touching down
Best Assault Carrier coming through
So who would win in a space battle (no FTL shennanigans) between a Imperial Navy Sector fleet and a 40k Imperial Navy Sector Battlefleet? Lets say their layouts are typical of what both sides would have.
I know 40k ships are usually larger (mid-sized SW ships are around the size of a 40k escort-class ship) but SW ships seem to be better made, better shielded, and more maneuverable.
On a side note, who would win in an engagement: the Executor, or one of the alien warships from Independence Day (the original, not the sequel that gave everyone who loved the original an aneurysm).
The Executor is already massive at 19km, but the ID4 Warship is even bigger at an astounding 24km. The Executor boasts thousands of turbolaser turrets and hundreds of assault ships and fighters docked inside. The warship has one massive laser cannon pointed straight down for mass incineration of ground targets and an unknown number of smaller cannons around its perimeter, notably on the rectangular prong which marks the "front" of the ship, which presumably contains the bridge and a hangar full of alien fighter.
Interdictors are great stuff from a tactical usage perspective. It's a shame we'll never get EU novel Thrawn on screen.
Why is the overall Star Destroyer look so great? Cheese wedges in space just works for some reason.
Lel, hivemind.
>inb4 someone posts that 300km long fanmade mega star destroyer that had its own gravity cause the septic systems to back up into the hallways and cause a tsunami of feces and piss
>posts are 4 minutes apart.
>minimal relation to each other
That's not hivemind.
>Max Acceleration 1,230g
Why? This would turn everyone on board into hamburger paste.
Inertial dampeners are a thing in SW canon. that's why ships have gravity in them when they shouldn't.
I like the Battlestar Galactica ships because they are thicc and solid. If you can blink your ship from spot to spot there's no reason not to make it rugged as fuck.
In all the sci-fi I have watched they are the only warships that make sense. These things look like they can take nukes, because they fucking can.
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underrated sci-fi setting here. The space battles are both pretty well constructed until the recent books/games
It was always very satisfying to some some UNSC gamble btfo a much more powerful covenant fleet manned by dogmatic idiots.
Star Wars dreadnoughts (before TLJ fucked that class name to hell) looked like this.
Prometheus had gorgeous design.
Aside from the weak af dish those are pretty cool.
But when your universe has shielding you don't have to go super thicc
great striking lines, like the prow of a ship taken to its abstract extreme
interdictors are rad too
Tbh, the alien ship in 10 Cloverfield Lane had excellent designs considering they appeared at the end of the film with NO CONTEXT whatsoever. What I didn't get is why it had a giant canine mouth on the underside which is implied to devour people without prejudice. Does that mean the ship is powered by a bioreactor or something? It converts whatever it eats into energy?
Dreadnought was both a name of the ship and of the Super Star Destroyer class and that was a long time before Disney even entered the picture
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>size equals power
good god you idiots.
40k has pretty vague fluff regarding actual power levels, there's very little concrete info, usually just artful descriptions. in any case, conventional military technology seems fairly equal between star wars and 40k, although star wars holds an advantage of much better FTL travel and the ability to actually build new ships
independence day is just whack, their mothership thing is apparntly made out of pure neutronium given its size and mass, their weapons technology is never shown as terribly impressive, their city destroying weapon on the discs is lower in firepower to a standard heavy turbolaser on any larger star wars ship or the description of more powerful 40k imperium ship weapons
Halo ships were GOAT
I suppose this is probably cheating
This, BSG's ships are probably the most "realistic" depiction of space warships in popular media
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did the Mc80s have shields in the battle of Endor? I can't remember
its still a stupid image for two reasons
a) much larger, spread out, more bureacratically bloated, and non-militaristic organizations such as modern day earth governments dont suffer from open rebellion
b) that star destroyer is significantly less massive than even the first death star
*moves your universe*
it looks like something from guardian's of the galaxy
No it wouldn't. Is this a joke? If you woke up in the morning and the Earth's surface grav potential was magically 1.5 g, you would probably just feel really weak/hungover as it'd be hard to stand. 1.3 g or whatever would actually be a pretty reasonable and safe acceleration.
yeah until they built the
>UNSC infinity
which pretty much ruined naval combat in the game, the whole reason the UNSC fleet is made up of frigates is because theyre agile and hard to hit.
Ruins the vibe of the game when the Human's aren't on the backfoot
why wouldnt they, everything in the EU above lowely tie fighters have deflector sheilds, and indeed need them to not get blown out of the sky in minutes.
even excluding the eu, in the films, numerous ships of all sizes are indicated as having deflector shields, so why not the mc80
>Have sweet ship that can't jump but is still holding atmosphere
>Fly it into to sun so you can fuck niggers
What a waste that was. Should have parked it in orbit, made it a pre-history starbase. They still had a Raptor can could jump and potentially keep it fueled. But I guess Adama dug a big-ass hole and buried it in Africa or some shit.
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idk TLJ got me thinking, why didn't that massive dreadnought have deflector shields, i mean whats the point if one x-wing can take out like 20 turbo laser turrets on the fore of the ship
What is this from?
Gee, having the main "brains" of the ship in hardened, not exposed to the vacuum of space steel as opposed to glass.
FIRST POST BEST POST MY NIGGA
>Cheese wedges in space just works for some reason.
They look like arrow heads.
Cant believe no ones posted my girl Moya yet. Objectively the comfiest ship.
>Sitting on warm floors, chillin with Pilot
>DRD brings you hot cocoa
>Casually have your leviathan fuck some ship from 40k and birth some kind of giant eldritch horror starship
nothing in the nu trilogy makes sense
just turn your brain off, bro
It's using real american numerical representation, so the commas separate goups of 3 numbers.
For example:
Length: 19,000 meters
2,000 heaavy turbolaser batteries
1230 g of acceleration is 12.1 km/s^2
12.1 km/s^2 would easily kill someone
It looks like a fucking toy compared to the original
Why did they get so lazy?
>no shields
>no point defense weapons
>engaging in a planetary bombardment without an escort cloud of fighters or smaller craft
>standard destroyers do literally nothing but make a bang you can hear from ground when they enter realspace
>lol lets just send in a really big star destroyer
what could go wrong?
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intertial dampners or some such equivalent, like every fucking scifi franchise featuring 'conventional' ftl travel
its a technology you just have to accept if you want to watch anything but hard scifi
My bad, I was reading it as 1.230 g.
>dude just turn your brain off
This is why The Expanse deserves props. They don't just write off inertia like all the other lazy homos.
Literally jobbed by a single A-wing in a kamikaze attack that didn't look stupid.
>ARC170starfigher.jpg
wait thats not a v-19
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I actually like the ayy lmaos in the movie, aside from the fact they shouldn't have appeared close up like that. But the organic warships is cool and something under-utilized in mainstream sci-fi
Obviously if they can manipulate gravity such that they can walk around the ships they might not have to worry about huge accelerarions.
There's no fucking way that thing could be intended to ever go atmospheric.
Actually space ships would be arranged with floors perpendicular to vector of thrust to simulate gravity.
is this vong
Blake's 7. Super underrated and way ahead of it's time.
hope the only scifi you watch is 2001 and the expanse, because thats about the limits of what you can watch with your autism
there's differences between retardation like hyperspace missile ships in TLJ, and technological handwaves that have been part of scifi since the great novelists of the 60s
>and technological handwaves that have been part of scifi since the great novelists of the 60s
Joe Haldemann acknowledged inertia and wrote it into his books. Robert Heinlein does not go into detail about spaceships in his books but there is no reason to assume they do not obey obey inertia either, except when some guy develops a device that allows FTL travel.
most of those "great novelists" which you can't name are just brainlets who did not understand basic stuff like gravity. Gravity is just people constantly accelerating towards the center of Earth. We measure that acceleration as 1g, or 1 Earth gravity.
You can ignore it, but that doesn't make you any less of a lazy brainlet. I can still watch sci-fi that ignores it, but damned if I won't mention how annoyed it makes me.
None of the Imperial II or higher classed star destroyers were designed for atmospheric insertions. They were primarily orbital bombardment platforms.
its just a joke
asimov flaunts intertia
>acknowledged inertia
>do not obey inertia
What do you mean by that? Inertia is the property that matter has that causes it to resist acceleration
Asimov is a brainlet who lived in an age of ignorance; he wrote about Venus like it had a breathable atmosphere.
To be honest we didn't know shit about the planets before NASA.
Ships in Starship Troopers are clearly capable of crossing significant interstellar distances and Rico doesn't die on the drive over, so Heinlein must not obey intertia in at least one novel.
Right
So when you have people inside a spaceship, and the spaceship started accelerating. You feel that inertia, which is exactly the same thing as gravity.
Spaceship physics get totally glossed over in ST.
If you want sci-fi from the 60/70s that tackles it seriously, read pic related. Probably the greatest sci-fi war story ever.
>You feel that inertia, which is exactly the same thing as gravity.
Got it
>Spaceship physics get totally glossed over in ST.
oh gee thanks for conceding my point
You don't feel inertia, you feel your body accelerate in a direction. Inertia=mass. Your mass, or your inertia, is a scalar which multiplies your acceleration depending on the force applied.
I'm not explaining it well but I know I'm right about this.
If you care to refute go ahead.
Thank you /sci/
Now can you explain how that applies to people in a spaceship travelling at some multiple of g
Rogue One
> How can you do this? This is outrageous!
You feel acceleration in your car. Stomp on the gas and you get pushed back into the seat. It's the same shit.
The apparent weight of a person inside the accelerating ship would be m*a where a is some multiple of g. But it's the ship that the thrusters are acting on so your body only gets accelerated too if you're in direct contact with the floor or something (i.e., there's a normal force between the ship and you). If your were floating in the middle of the ship when the thrusters kick on, you'll float to one wall of the ship because of fictitious forces.
t. just had a dynamics final
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Sick quads confirm mad science
Always.
Are those the ships from that Tom Cruise movie where they suck up all the water
>tfw Europa has more water than all the oceans of Earth
why not just go there. stupid ayylmaos.
thats the ship taking away the fifth element in the film "the fifth element"
I love the angled thrusters
>conventional military tech seems equal between 40k and star wars
HAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAAAT??
40k ships use hell itself to power
soldiers are 8ft super humans
their ammo is literal tiny rockets
they have psykers which UNLEASH THE POWER OF SAID HELL UPON THEIR FOES
void shields alone outclass 40k from sw ships
THEN YOU HAVE SHIPS DEDICATED TO THE DARK GODS SUCH AS THE PLANET KILLER AND THE TERMINUS EST
there is no match between SW and 40k when the things in 40k can destroy literal sections of the galaxy they happen to do battle in.
>40k fans in a nutshell
>star wars ships use hyperspace itself to power
>soldiers are literally 12 foot tall dark troopers
>their ammo is literally magnetically encased plasma charges
>they have force users that UNLEASH THE POWER OF WARP STORMS on their targets
>hyperdrives alone outclass warp travel
>THEN YOU HAVE SHIPS DEDICATED TO FUCKING SHIT UP LIKE CENTERPOINT AND THE SUN CRUSHER
autism
That's a weird comment. It doesn't really address anything.
And star wars has space wizards swinging beams of plasma in a setting that has ships that can wipe out entire fleets in moments from halfway across the galaxy.
All this needs is some fat guy gasping and shrieking.
solar sails are so dope
REAL BATTLESTARS!
not that crappy video game remake designs.
Love the SC terran battle cruiser design
>power of the machine spirit
>space marines can take deatomization from gauss rifles, tau pulse rifles, and eldar lazers let alone the various gifts csm possess
>csm can summon deamons from the warp and can shut down entire sections of the galaxy
>hyperspace travel is good for getting away from a losing fight against a 40k fleet
>Exterminatus
>bringing out EU
kek
The (liberal) President's Battlestar.
Thanks for destroying the colonies!
it would literally just take the machine spirit to hack it and use it against the SW peeps
You will never bare witness to SSD Lusankya blasting from beneath the surface of Coruscant, killing hundreds of millions of people in the process.
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Hmmm.
Durasteel's a hell of a metal
it was built in space, and probably intended to always stay in space
I don't think it has landing struts