What exactly is the problem? He had a beautiful sendoff...

What exactly is the problem? He had a beautiful sendoff. Are manchildren just mad because he didn’t twirl around his green lightsaber? Fucking plebs; you don’t deserve this kino.

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It was really kind of pointless. They were about to get out of there anyway.

They expected him to whip out a laser sword and defeat the whole Firstt Order by himself.

Yeah, I think it was great, 10/10 moment.
And he'll be back in the IX, he gave too good of a performance.

Why the fuck did he even project himself if the end result is the same, why didn’t he just go there?
And why make him do ridiculous slowmo matrix bend movements if he's a literal projection? I mean what the fuck were they even thinking

Yeah a beautiful send off in ROTJ. Kino? I think you know who the real pleb is

It was a retarded death that's why, he did fuck all.

Mouse shill

die.

A true classic moment. Best kino of the decade.

I really, REALLY, liked the movie both the goofy and serious parts and even the casino planet was at least interesting to look at.

BUT why did Luke use a bottle? Why not just spray the milk into his mouth? He was alone there for like a decade so I don't see why the pretence at table manners.

He kinda defeated them, humiliated Kylo and made the escape possible, all while looking totally badass.

If the hit did connect Kylo would realize it's an illusion and would just stop caring. His emotions was what bought time for the Resistance.

>People using the force ghost excuse

I don't give a fuck about him coming back and being a force ghost cause he'll be in one scene and sit on a tree like Obi-Wan.

Overwritten script, simple as that

He died alone on a fucking island surrounded by titty milk despite being one of the most beloved heroes of all time

It was a great moment, lots of really great moments in the film. Unfortunately there was so much shit in there too that it dragged the rest of the movie down. I especially didn't like the comedy aspects. Surely this is supposed to be the darkest part of the trilogy, why is BB8 piloting an AT-ST in a slapstick humour scene? There was a clear ROTJ/Prequels influence in the movie. When the Sup Forums contrarians realise this they'll praise TLJ more than it deserves.

But the "fight" lasts for like 10 seconds after that, are those 10 seconds really so important? He could've pretended like he's real for a good few minutes then, not just a couple of seconds.
And even if I take that as a legitimate argument, is doing a fucking slowmo matrix move the only option? Literally any other evade move would've been better, anything, this is even too low for a Marvel flick.

shills go away

How is it beautiful sendoff?
Its just a deconstruction of "and they lived happily ever after". No one lives happily ever after, we all become old. But does that make for good storytelling?

They fucked the character of one of most iconic heroes of cinema and then killed him like a bitch. What did you think, people would just be okay with that?

Having a different opinion doesn't make you a shill, dumb frogposter.

>But the "fight" lasts for like 10 seconds after that, are those 10 seconds really so important? He could've pretended like he's real for a good few minutes then, not just a couple of seconds.
Well it lasted much longer, from the moment he left the bunker until the moment Kylo realizes he's been fooled it's at least several minutes. That's a lot in evacuation time.

go back

>confused sloth milk hobo dies after pranking his nephew too hard
Should have had snoke kill him in Episode 7, this would have spared us hobo luke and made kylo killing snoke somewhat impactful

it's a kid's movie grow up and move on

they want Luke to remain perfect and pristine just as he was at the end of ROTJ. me personally, I like the direction they took. if there's one detail I would change, it would be to make Luke be physically present to save the Rebels and kick ass one last time.

>manchildren
What do you think you are faggot?

>television and film discussion
>discuss films
>"YOU NEED TO GO BACK"

>its 4 kids

Except the Resitance shits spent half that time staring at Luke rather than running because Luke never said “ Hey faggots i’ll buy you some time , run damn it!”

Kids and soy inclined adults.

>discuss
>praising shit

>making a character the exact opposite of himself
>great writing

thank God , disney movies arent canon , just shitty sjw fanfiction

>they want Luke to remain perfect and pristine
But user, he is a pussy ass old hobo who tried to backstab kill his nephew, get's overpowered by a confused girl and drinks sloth titty milk in his free time? How is that "perfect and pristine" in any way?

You are "discussing" a flick, not a film.

Learn to interpret what you read because the point went over your fucking head.

My post gave a mixed opinion and discussed multiple aspects of the film moron. Think before posting.

Did they show an incoming spacecraft in front of the sun just before he died or did I make that up?

I saw that too...why is nobody talking about this?

Fuck, you're right :O
What was this supposed to mean?

Reddit hates it.

>multiple aspects of the film moron
Talking about plot points is not "multiple aspects of the film" and it's not even "discussing" a film.
But whatever, it's not like this shitshow deserves anything more than that.

>10/10 I shed a tear

>L-L-Look at me. I called it a flick. Am I an edgelord yet? Someone please love me...

>Calling a flick a flick is considered edgy now

Amazing mental midget non argument defense system.
It's ticks every flick checkmark possible user, literally made for kids and manchildren

>titty milk
What other kinds are there??

Prostate milk

>what is the problem.

Not the sendoff, the whole character arc is the problem. He basically sulked on an island out of shame and fear of repercussions for his actions, aka, he behaved like the antithesis of a jedi knight, gardian of peace and justice in the galaxy, the very thing the OT strove to turn him into.

In the meantime the whole galaxy is being taken over by some evil force user of darkness and doom and the sith apprentice whom Luke failed by, again, acting out of character and visiting his tent in the middle of the night with a lightsaber (his turning it on is just the cherry on top of the manure).

Now, what does Luke, the bearer of hope, the jedi who vanquished the Sith , brought balance to the force, and redeemed the Chosen One of the Prophecy, do when the Republic he fought for for years on endturns into a cesspit of corruption and is taken over by this evil apparently even greater than the galactic empire.

Well he sticks in his corner of the galaxy and doesn't do shit, throws his father's lightsaber away, let's someone else deal with his problems, and commits suicide at the last moment to at least do something slightly useful, and even then...Why not simply go there, deal with Kylo, and, you know, act like Luke Skywalker?

>Disney got the suns completely wrong
>1977 film looks better

>movie doesn't seem to remember Luke's character, his story and development in the OT
>OH BUT WE STILL REMEMBER BINARY SUNSET, YOU KNOW THAT SCENE FROM IV WITH THE MUSIC AND EVERYTHING
Don't expect me to cry for a character who is Luke in name and actor only.

I don't understand why he fucked up in the first place.

The theme of the movie is "let the past die" but that's the point of the original trilogy as well- the old giving way to the new.

Why exactly should we think that Rey will do better than Luke? Luke was the great promise of the OT, Rey is the great promise of the new trilogy. He fucked up - it stands to reason that so will she.

I'm mad because he should've never been isolated on this island to begin with.

It simply doesn't make sense. Luke wouldn't do this. I'm sorry JJ and Rian, but I disagree. Luke would not, ever, leave all his family, friends and other people he fought for behind to die and go into hiding.

>there are "people" that defend this trash movie

Why could make someone so depraved?

>Rey will fuck up
She's a woman, that will not happen.

>see you around...kid
So powerful...

Well he was the only good character left in the series. And it made his projection kind of redundant.

>Luke is the last good powerful white male left in the universe

You knew he had to die. The force is female.

>grumpy, angry, pathetic and disillusioned
>does absolutely nothing for the whole movie
>shows up at the end and makes it look like he does something meaningful, but actually doesn't do anything, BECAUSE
>dies like a bitch, for no discernible reason
Yeah, my hero, woo-hoo.
>B- but did you see binary sunset? I- it's just like new hope? Remember new hope? Beautiful sendoff. K- kino!

I get that reasoning, and you're probably right, but I don't see why Rey would intrinsically be better at training people.

When you think about it, the whole thing is kind of depressing - everyone in the STar Wars universe will just keep fucking up and triggering a new cycle of "bad guy gets beat by good guy after a big war".

Because people expected the sequels to be the old cast with bunch of new side characters, not an OC donut steal cast where the old cast shows up for 5 minutes to get killed off.

I don't mind them doing a new thing and leaving the past behind, but can't you do that without mistreating Luke so badly?

He couldn't even get off Ach'to tho. They literally show you his x-wing is in the water and he used it's parts for stuff in the village.

I didn't even like this movie but I see so many rubbish arguments about plotholes and bad writing. These were the main problems for me:

>Too many misplaced and childish quips (the worst one being Luke acting like a hiphopstar in the standoff with Kylo)

>The casino plot was literally filler, it's only good point being Del Toro's character.

>Women are the true heroes, men are all a bunch of hotheaded childish brainlets.

Most people are mad because they turned a heroic paragon of good into a childkilling, uttersucking, hermit who hates everyone.

I loved that final couple of shots, once they stopped cutting to the faces of Rey and Leia and let Luke actually have his moment. It was magic, I loved it.

What was stupid was the disappearing dice, blue lightsaber, inexplicably de-aged Luke, and cringey, forced speech about not being the Last Jedi (TM).

Soy

>he couldn't even get off
If he wanted to, he could. He could simply force-talk to Leia and tell her he needs a pickup.
He could probably superman through space to another planet too.

>And why make him do ridiculous slowmo matrix bend movements if he's a literal projection?

Are you really this retarded???
To convince Kylo he is there.

This board goes to shit every second. I bet there is massive migration of kids from Sup Forums because of battlefront controversy.

You deserve a late term abortion.

He's not being mistreated tho. He's literally fallen back into the whiny little bitch he was in the OT after being disappointed in the Jedi master path he chose after RotJ.

I don't like curmudgeon Luke, but Disney could go a long way in rectifying that by giving us the adventures of Luke between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. Show me how he met Lor San Tekka. Show me the Jedi Academy and what led up to it's creation.

Fuck the Obi-Wan solo movie. Give me more Luke Skywalker.

He had to die to pave the way for the new generation, but he didn't have to be made into this backstabbing impulsive fucker who behaves nothing like his OT self.

Which is not believable.

>He couldn't even get off Ach'to tho
What about just going with Rey on the Falcon?

This is what Is intended user, Luke would never [spoiler/]kill his nephew[/spoiler], and in the moment he thought about it, Luke Skywalker, the hero who never surrenders, died.

All these scrubs have their nostalgia goggles on. Aren't willing to admit this movie was trash.

So how did Snoke "corrupt" Ben at Luke's Jedi Temple?

Who was Snoke? Where was he then? What did he do? Why didn't Luke sense and stop it?

...

He could make thousands of other less cringy and absolutely cheesy evade movements user. You're acting like this is supposed to be thid way, not that there was a blank slate and someone wrote it in that way exactly

No. They already ruined his character. I don't want to find out Luke had another "moment of weakness" and tried to genocide an entire village of children because one of them had a unibrow that looked evil.

I don't want to find out Luke had another moment of weakness and feared that he would die alone so he started raping every female for a year.

I don't want to find out Luke had another moment of weakness and had homoerotic relations with Snoke, and then tried to kill him for making him feel gay which subsequently created the the Sith Snoke who went on to start the First Order.

No.

You're asking too many questions. Just enjoy the movie. DID YOU SEE THAT EPIC HYPERSPACE RAM?!

Rey left before he made up his mind.

"See you around kid"
Literally burst into tears, so beautiful

Nice deflection kiddo, go talk about the logical consistency of plot points and pretend like that's a "proper film discussion" some more

Wow absolutely breathtaking writing

You're being sarcastic, but people like that actually exist. And this is just sickening.

But when vader threatened to turn leia to the dark side in the final duel of RotJ, Luke completely lost his shit and unleashed a flurry that took vader down. Then moments later he had returned to his senses and threw away his light sabre, being unable to kill his father. I would say that moments of madness are faithful to luke's character.

Stormnigger once again proving he's useless even in the meta as his entire arc is utterly fucking pointless and was cheated out of a much needed martyrdom to be called a dipshit and kissed by a chink (gotta get that asia market)

Please just write Fin out of the story along with Literally Who? Snoke

What's wrong with this line? He's quoting Han to his son.

The new Luke is just a patchwork of Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda's storylines from the old movies with a slight twist so that the idiots would think it's FRESH and NEW and CURRENT and NOT THE SAME/NOT YOUR DADDY'S STAR WARS.

I just don't understand Luke's interaction with Kylo at the end and the overall smugly way he present himself to him.
I mean that's literally his nephew there who Luke himself tried to kill while he's sleeping like the biggest pussy ever. Shouldn’t he feel ashamed then? Isn't all of that the entire reason why he left everyone and drinks sloth tittymilk on that secluded island alone?
I perfectly understand why Hamill disagreed on the character on all fronts, Luke just dies as a smug terrible bitch ass person.

>I just don't understand Luke's interaction with Kylo at the end and the overall smugly way he present himself to him.
Luke did say he was sorry.

It's the most cliche cheesy thing he could've said, on the level of "nothing personnel, kiddo"

Was the idea of Spirit Luke was just to fuck with Kylo?

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don't diss on the milkie

>"Don't have heroes"
Cool fun theme for a kid's movie user

Had Luke showed up in person, he'd have been blown to shit by the AT-MT's.

Why would the world's largest telecommunications company blow up Luke?

Top shot looks way better and it came out 40 years before

are you arguing that this movie is for adults ??