Who's ready for some FUCKING Superman?
Action Comics #775 storytime - What's So Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way?
Christian Perry
Andrew Jackson
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Blake Hernandez
You're doing this because of tomorrow's issue aren't you?
If so then thanks for bringing us up to speed.
Charles Nguyen
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Colton Thompson
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Isaiah Carter
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Blake Moore
Why are you storytiming this op
Isaiah Morgan
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Nicholas Smith
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Gabriel Thomas
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Asher Bennett
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Jacob Hughes
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Jack Richardson
mahnke art so fucking good what is he been on lately?
John Bailey
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Nicholas Rodriguez
>Superman vs Sup Forums
I am gonna enjoy this
Colton Smith
Classic.
Christopher Flores
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Thomas Garcia
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Gabriel Parker
This
Adam Rodriguez
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Jacob Watson
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Wyatt Watson
Andrew Hill
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Dylan Moore
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Justin Baker
Did it take him 7 hours to get there?
Cameron Baker
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Austin Wilson
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Hudson Mitchell
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Jace Young
Love ya OP.
Lincoln Bell
It's a DC intern providing backstory for the Manchester Black reveal tomorrow in Superman.
Gabriel Adams
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Christian Cooper
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Matthew Jackson
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Kayden Carter
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Jayden Collins
thread theme (the obvious): youtube.com
Jonathan Torres
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Kevin Ramirez
Fuck, I miss having the Kents around.
Even single pages like this give serious stories so much heart.
Hudson Miller
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Chase Lee
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Connor Howard
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Justin Scott
Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones?
Luis Edwards
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Leo Sanchez
>Might Makes Right: the comic
I get what they were going for, but the execution is totally botched. Superman wins because he's more powerful, which has nothing to do with his morals.
Luke Long
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Nathaniel Cook
What's tomorrow's Action about? Elite Rebirth?
Nathaniel Baker
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Cameron Williams
Please tell me this is true.
Caleb Robinson
that panel with the kids is so relevant
Nathan Russell
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Nathaniel Brooks
I didn't think Sup Forums would like Superman seeing as how divided it is these days between Sup Forums and /tumblr/ANTIFA, you'd think they'd favour superheroes who actually kill who they don't agree with than favour a goody two shoes superhero.
Xavier Sanchez
All the hints point to Manchester black as the main villain of the next superman arc
>Smokes
>Uses british expressions
>Is apparently using mind control on Krypto and the farmer
>The arc is called black dawn
>The solicits for tomorrow's issue reads "Jon wonders what's so great about truth, justice and the american way"
Plus Black has a history of attcking superman's family
Leo Parker
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Asher Gray
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Luis Rivera
Wasn't Black manager of the Teen Titans for awhile?
Also
>John Constantine meets Manchester Black never
Kevin Cox
We need WalLex shenanigans in Rebirth.
Are the Elite meant to be a stand-in for The Authority?
Gabriel Myers
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Hudson Brooks
That's what I've heard.
Josiah Powell
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Hudson Fisher
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William Jenkins
Lex seems a bit confident about taking out the elite given that they are supposed to be more powerful than superman
Jason Cooper
Yes, although technically they only appeared once.
Then it was just Manchester.
Nicholas Thompson
>Superman wins because he's more powerful, which has nothing to do with his morals.
I can see how you read it that way, but let me provide a counter.
Superman shows that might equals right, but that it's flawed because he cannot be the judge of Manchester Black's teammates.
It also puts Manchester in the shoes of those he attacks and vilifies. In his mind he's the hero, just as Superman is the hero in our minds as we read. Manchester, and the reader, feel the tides turn, and therefore a clearer statement on 'why should Superman decide the lives of these people?'
Well, why should Manchester?
Supes sums it up in Superman fixed the problem, proved himself right to his villain, and showed that just because you have a gun pointed at the head of a bad guy doesn't mean shooting him is the only way to fix the problem. In fact, not shooting him may make him good.
Jacob Perry
The End.
Cooper Jenkins
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Blake Wright
That's kind of the point. A pragmatic, might makes right superhero sounds effective, but the moment the idealist plays by these rules it becomes a fucking nightmare.
Also, they killed civilians and that's against the law, ergo, superman is justified to use his powers to stop them.
Andrew Morales
>>The solicits for tomorrow's issue reads "Jon wonders what's so great about truth, justice and the american way"
Haha, oh wow. Though given how strong a misdirect SBP was for Mxy...
What's wrong with a no-kill policy?
Lincoln Thompson
Thanks.
Gabriel Wilson
Has anyone ever noted the beautiful irony in this page?
Manchester kills an alien space baby embryo, assuming because it might be a threat, in the presence of an alien space baby who grew to be the champion of truth and justice and hope for the modern age?
Killing an idea because of the risk it may have negative effects on people, instead of allowing that risk to be for the good and betterment of people?
Ethan Thomas
Fair point, although I feel like that's not the message the comic is trying to get you to take away from it. For most of it Superman's argument is that the end doesn't justify the means, and he only switches to giving them a taste of their own medicine at the end.
Jaxon Butler
Nothing wrong at all. Just commenting regarding the current political climate on Sup Forums, that I didn't think people would still care for a non-bipartisan superhero who doesn't believe in inherent violence to change anything for the better.
Jeremiah Turner
Didn't note that.
Henry Jenkins
I think there's room for stories about both types, personally, and it's up to the writer to make them work rather than something inherent in the morals of the characters.
That's illuminating. Thank you.
Luke Clark
That was Superman's point.
Superman is the most powerful person on the planet, but he's responsible and doesn't make himself into the law. He doesn't go around deciding what's right. He stops others from imposing their will upon people weaker than them, whether they take the form of just a rampaging asshole killing indiscriminately or people who want to work towards the greater good like the Elite.
Superman shows the Elite in the story that someone with a huge amount of power who decides what the law should be is really fucking scary.
I do think the story is a little strawman-y but the more times I read it the more clearly I see what Superman was intending to convey.
>I think there's room for stories about both types
Yeah. What Kelly was likely frustrated with at the time was that the sheer popularity of the Authority, Punisher, Spawn, etc. was making a lot of people call characters like Superman outdated for their no-kill policy.
So what I think the intent was with this was less to say "heroes who kill are bad" and more about trying to convey that Superman still absolutely has a place and a valid philosophy in the modern age, but didn't quite get that across. Maybe it would have been more fair if it was more than one issue.
We were having this discussion in the Wonder Woman thread yesterday; Wondie, Superman and Batman don't need to have their values change, because there are other characters that are made specifically to explore the more cynical (for lack of a better word) or maybe pragmatic values, namely most of the WildStorm imprint.
Luis Robinson
2001 reference, right?
Mason Baker
More of a reference to parts of the Authority.
Warren Ellis did a lot of cosmic horror stuff like that.
Levi Gutierrez
Action 800 is much better than this
Kayden Ross
>He stops others from imposing their will upon people weaker than them, whether they take the form of just a rampaging asshole killing indiscriminately or people who want to work towards the greater good like the Elite.
???????????? Does North Korea and most of Africa not exist in the DC universe? Superman's a fucking jackass, he's not even slightly responsible.
John Johnson
>I can say that because I am a leader myself
That bit is always so satisfying to read
Robert Perez
Fine, you ungrateful fuck.
Josiah Phillips
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Hudson Bell
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Brandon Johnson
Brandon Hughes
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Kevin Hernandez
If there was a man locked alone in a room with a button that would kill one man to save a hundred, would Superman say that man has a moral obligation to press the button or to not?
Xavier Stewart
I didn't mean to bully, but ty
Nolan Miller
Are you saying that he should be policing other countries just because he's able to?
Noah Sullivan
I don't think Superman would blame the man regardless of what choice he made and instead the one who set the game up in the first place
Jackson Perry
I've never read this
Superman would say "that kind of choice is no choice at all".
Then would console the guy for doing everything he could, no matter what he did.
Easton Fisher
I love every riff they do on the original Action cover.
Owen Mitchell
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Adam Sullivan
Elijah Gutierrez
>Faster than a speeding bullet
>More powerful than a locomotive
>Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound
>Strange visitor from another planet
Remember, Sup Forumsmrades, do good to others and every man can be a Superman.
Nathaniel Bennett
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Asher Wright
Not exactly, but you can be a super man.
Alexander Collins
Good answers
Samuel Price
I shouldn't even be awake. I just love posting comics too much.
Chase Long
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Charles Bennett
Ethan Mitchell
Superman actually
Though its nots as good as he's previous stuff
Nolan Ramirez
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