Why did a space opera featuring likable characters and cool worlds have to be turned into some abomination with not so...

Why did a space opera featuring likable characters and cool worlds have to be turned into some abomination with not so subtle social commentary?

Explain to me how your tiny brain thinks there is any social commentary in the last Jedi.

>purple haired woman talks about the downtrodden and oppressed

Nigga get the fuck out

How is that social commentary?

what the fuck is a rebellion supposed to talk about? that's literally the whole point.

rose was a qt

Explain to me why there are so many articles such as this from leftist/sjw websites if there is no social commentary in the movie

Acting blissfully ignorant aint cheeky you stupid faggot.

Explain the screencaps of various articles that have been posted on Sup Forums claiming that TLJ is taking down toxic masculinity and calling out mansplaining?

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oh so now cucks on here will pretend that that shitfest is not sjw at all... wow, impressive.

I miss straight white male protagonists. But that's cause I'm gay

ARE YOU SAYING OTHER RELIGIONS ARE AS VALID AS MINE?

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

Keep 'em coming, lads. I love it.

>op's post has a pic of an article that defends the social commentary of TLJ
>(You) claim the movie has no social commentary
Take a break, Disney employee. You've obviously been working non-stop for the last 24 hours.

(You)

3/10
would not fuck

The prequel anti-Bush social commentary was more subtle in leaps and bounds than this. It's fucking astounding.

What exactly is this referring to

Purple hair lady being an asshole to Poe.

t. christcuck unsettled by the movie's progressive religious message

Even worse, a purple haired bisexual woman (according the newest Leia book). A purple haired bisexual nobody who dies sacrificing herself for her people. Cue a million YAASSS QUEENs and #slaygirl on Twitter.

You're actually retarded. kys

What? How does that relate to the movie at all?

Poe assumes Laura Dern is incompetent, hatches a secret plan undermining her. Dern turns out to have her own plan, Poe's plan jeopardizes the fleet.

Are you saying this is anti-Trump? If so, every movie with a non-actor is also anti-Trump. Hollywood has been amazingly prescient.

BECAUSE ITS 2017 AND WE'LL UNDO THAT NAZI DRUMPF IN OUR FICTION

Episode 8 The Last Jedi IS a masterpiece. It broke any and all connections old fans still had to it by making the story absolutely nonsensical. A quipfest bordering on a pure comedy.

Luke represents the old fan guiding Rey through the world of the Jedi. She thinks she is supposed to like the movie because of advertisers and the social media brainwashing baiting normal people into thes niche sci-fi hobbies.
Luke explains that the Jedi are not what everybody thinks they are, they were always corrupted and arrogant, never actually helped anyone. Luke is the one person in the movies apparently who really understood that there will always be conflict even for the most retarded of reasons because the force wills it and there is nothing he can do about it. He does not fully disavow the Jedi ways, he wants to keep the traditions somewhat alive if only to bring them to a bittersweet end which is why he still dressed in the God-like white robes despite claiming to not be a Jedi anymore and having cut himself off from (or not using) the force.
Luke standing in Kylos bedroom and igniting his saber is the sole reason anything bad started to happen after ROTJ. It was a rookie mistake of him to ignite the saber that he can’t forgive himself for. But Luke is a human and every human will keep doing mistakes because the force (or Disney if you will) longs for it and wills the conflict into existence as contrieved as possible. Without the conflict there is no life.

Have another one you sad creature

That's supposed to say non-white obviously

it's just ghostbusters all over again

anyone who isn't an idiot will know it's just because the movie is shit

Luke did everything possible to make Rey go away, especially the milky milky scene is a perfect example of this. For Luke or the old fan it is perfectly understandable piece of lore or trivia, maybe even a question he would pose on the internet: How does Luke survive on a desolate island? Where does the blue milk of episode 4 or rather the green milk now come from? From a disgusting otherworldly animal of course with a partly sexualized design because Star Wars was made by men and for men („There is no underwear in space“-George Lucas and all the good looking waifs the novels and books gave to even the most inconsequential side-character). Rey looks disgusted at this, she rejects it because she is a regular girl, not at all interested in this other world Luke has created or rather found for himself in his solitude. Rey is the parent you forced to watch the movie with you because you can’t go to cinema alone as a child. She is the sister that does not care about you because from what she sees from your outside you both have no compatible interests. Rey is the person that one day feigned interest because you read X-Wing The Bacta War during lunch, asked what Episode it is about and then never bothered speaking to you because she was unable of understanding a concept as easy as „they do the sequels as books“. Luke knows this and is happy that she rejects it because he lives for the enjoyment of his green milk (making him smile) and acknowledges that this kind of thing could never happen in a random, soulless mainstream story. It’s a wonder and anomaly that Rian Johnson managed to keep this scene intact, he is the true and last hero in the Hollywood machinery apparently and I can’t imagine what gall Kathleen Kennedy has to basically make a movie out of her future plans and ulterior motives for the entire franchise.

How about "WOMEN GETTING THEIR ARMY ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED"

But even though Luke grew to hate Star Wars over the years, he still kept hoarding its installments in the dead tree. He is the fan that realized in 2010 or after The Revenge of the Sith or with Episode 1 or with the Special Editions that most stories of the franchise are sub-par and will never reach the heights of the OT / TESB / ANH or whatever you example of perfection is. With 30 (movie) or 40 (real life) years of time he grew to hate the movies themselves but unlike a normal person he was far too deep into it and still cherished the old memories in the few fleeting moments that he was granted. He ultimately could not destroy the Jedi books / the movies or whatever other Star Wars stories he held dear. After his talks and confrontations with Rey he had enough. He saw what would become of it and wanted to burn it down but he couldn't do it because he still truly cherished the memories he once had. Yoda is the perfect character to cameo in this scene. He looks like the puppet we first got to know him as but he is CGI, it shows us that even Yoda got bastardized by the new state of things. Yoda burns down the tree with the books, he acts out of character. Even shakes his legs in a way the puppet would not have been able to do. With Yoda burning the tree Luke and the fans are freed from the shackles of the story. It's the moment Star Wars completely broke. It showed us that Disney is perfect in simulating the outer shells of our beloved characters but not their personality, knowledge and emotions. New Star Wars is a completely different entity that may share bits and pieces but not out of respect but out of necessity. Even if you can't understand this subtext Yoda hits you over the head with his dialogue, speaking of Rey being perfect the way she is and that our failure of being so tied to the old ways is natural and can teach us something.

The movie says outright that there is no one true path to God, and that there are may avenues to achieve spiritual enlightenment.

Imagine how this sounds to americucks being told every Sunday to pay 10% of their paycheck in tithe just to get into heaven. TLJ is probably the most controversial mainstream blockbuster every released.

But it turns out the books weren't really burned, in a blink-and-you-will-miss-it shot the books turn out to have been stolen by Rey and put into the Falcon. Something the movie never bothered to show, referencing Disneys new canon not bothering to explain many important details like for example the entire state of the galaxy around the time of Episode 7. Rey taking the books from the tree despite not needing them according to Yoda also represents Disneys gutting of the franchise history to make new, inferior versions of the stories in the name of a streamlined, cross-media story. It shows perfectly the relationship between Disney and the EU because without recycling old ideas Rey will not be able to achieve anything, it's the only way for her to live as Star Wars lives off of recycling concepts and rhymes.

>Women are just as good at fighting and killing and stuff!
Why are we forcing women to be men? Let's force men to be women instead. It will be more interesting.

>Burning of knowledge deemed no longer worthy
>Diverse female cast undermining male characters

Luke still returns one more time, not to help Rey since he recognizes her as the ultimate evil of the story for ignoring all of his teachings and complaints. He goes to Leia, his last confidante in the mortal world. She knows about Star Wars, she knows the main characters and their roles but was never that deeply interested in some specific person but more concerned for the general well-being of the galaxy, for the „good guys“ to win. She is the relative or friend that has an interest in Star Wars but not as religiously as Luke. Another allegory for that is Leias force-sensitivity. She could have chosen to be like Luke, learn the Star Wars ways and take the entire universe in but she did not. Luke regulary estranges other people with his encyclopedic knowledge of the universe but even though she is not on his level she still understands him. Luke comes to her help because he can't let the story end disastrously with everyone good dying in the cave or Rey (as personification of all „new fans“) maybe taking the last few old and casual fans with her. He knows he can’t defeat Rey because doing so would paint him as a villain, a dark-sider which he is not, so he does his best to emulate the Luke we know and love from the visions of the future where everything was well.

Purple haired lady doesn’t tell Poe her plan even though he’s an important officer in the fleet and there’s no reason not to let him know what’s up. Poe decides to actually do something since it appears there’s no plan. Poe is a misogynist because she’s a shitty leader. It’s the current year and this is a victory for women

They didn't burn it. Go watch it again. My DisneySheckels account is low.

He is the only hope we have for a final showdown in the movie so he uses the knowledge of „Dark Empire“ and „Legacy of the Force“ to create a Similfuturus and fight against Kylo Ren. I am unsure who Kylo Ren is in all this or what his goals are. Does he only want to burn it all down and declare himself and the First Order superior? Because he controls the money (now that Snoke is dead) and wants profits? Because he got seduced by Rey who he thought and still thinks he has a bond with because of their shared interests in Star Wars when Reys motivation (her instinct of belonging to a group in times of adults permanently regressing into childlike consuming states and brainwashing) are completely incompatible with him?
Whatever the reason, Kylo Ren does not actually kill Luke as Luke dies long after the fight. Killing a Force Doppelgänger would not affect the real person. Luke willingly removes himself from the story because he recognizes at that moment that Star Wars has ended, just as we the audience recognize it by the imagery.
And now that Disney has unchallenged, complete control over the Star Wars universe it immediately introduces a new force user out of nowhere. Completely unwarranted by everybody, a little boy. Just like Disneys first (by the mainstream recognized) installment: Star Wars: Rebels’ Ezra „Space Aladdin“ Bridger.

Oh god, no more please.

I WANT ROSE TO SHIT IN MY MOUTH

Her master plan is being a terrible driver. Women! Am I right?

I genuinely laughed throughout the entire movie. It was not an emotionless experience like Episode 7 TFA, where we just got to learn that everybodies life was useless. The constant jokes at the stories expense perfectly clarified the intention of the work though the real turning point is Yodas tree burning. We are now living in the new era. An era where a serious installment of the main saga has more quips than a Marvel Capeshit while the award-winning comedy directors of the adventure/comedy flick „Solo“ get fired after 2 weeks of filming because of creative differences. An era where even the main characters shit on the solemn nature of the scene they are in for a nonsensical joke like Luke recognizing Jakku as a „nowhere“ planet, when it had made more sense for him to not even recognize the planets name or even recognize its significance as the last battlefield of the war against the old Empire, maybe even mentioning its Space Observatory being the reason the imperial Remnant found a way to Snoke in the uncharted regions which are evidence that Jakku is not insignificant.

I am deeply versed in Star Wars lore and still unconsciously resisting the movies message despite doing my best to accept it. It will still be a long way for me to completely accept it though one thing is certain: I can never blindly walk into one of these movies again while paying full price theater tickets. I said exactla this since I knew „Solo“ was going to be a movie but it will take more than just a good sci-fi war movie with working internal logic to get me to pay for this again. Star Wars effectively was and still is my entire life and character but I thank Rian Johnson who has written and directed this for trying to free us from the mental prison it created. If one Disney Star Wars movie deserves to break box office records or earn a billion dollars it is this one.

I dedicate this text to the late Sir Alec Guinness.
I don’t know if the boy you have met kept living in the world of childish banalities but be happy to know that this new Episode possibly redeemed thousands if not millions of similar souls.

I know right. God she was so dumb she almost got the rebellion wiped out.

Okay that was decent Star Wers humor. claps

Did you miss that jab that the only rich people are ones who sell weapons to the First Order? Apparently, that is the only wealthy people according to Last Jedi and they spend their time at casinos.

even worse, her master plan is to suicide bomb in the name of her views. grotesque.

but don't we see that they give weapons or ships for the republic too? like they don't care as long as they get paid?

The only rich people are people whose desire for wealth is strong enough to get it. And there are always externalities when you amass more than is necessary for survival. This is neither an attack on nor a defense of rich people. It's just the facts.

When will you fucking Americans stop ruining my entertainment?
Fix your fucking country! I want to be entertained!
What good are you if you can't even entertain us anymore? Useless pieces of shit.

Because PoMo liberal morons believe that low-brow entertainment is somehow a political issue because they are obsessed with idpol horseshit.

If you weren't entertained by titty milk you have no soul.

The boob spider thing was an opera singer.
Rhomby and Paralela Grammus were performance artists.

You first Pajeet.

THEN THEYRE WAGGING THE DOG, THESE MOVIES ARE INCREASINGLY CHOCK FULL OF IDPOL HORSESHIT

DIVERSITY AND REPRESENTATION ARE PRIORITY, SMASHING THE OLD TOXIC WHITE MALE ORDER, EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE MAKING THE MOVIE GOOD IS SECONDARY

Do you realize that the only reason the rest of the world feels any shred of sympathy towards the USA, it's because of your fucking movies.
Take that out, and you're just warmongering cheating capitalists.
The only reason we like you Americans, is because you can make good movies for us to enjoy.
And now you don't even do that! What the fuck?

You sound bitter.
> americucks being told every Sunday to pay 10% of their paycheck in tithe just to get into heaven
read a fucking book you imbecile

You mean like the Bible? Sorry, I burned it.

Don’t like our warmongering? Build a navy, fgts

>conceptualizing theory of religion from Star Wars

The first order are the rebellion in these movies though.

(you)

genuine curiosity, where are you from

Pssh as if she's the first positive female Asian role model in cinema

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nebraska

>The only reason we like you Americans, is because you can make good movies for us to enjoy
>nebraska

Damn, I was kind of hoping to have a real discussion on Sup Forums no less but you're just shitposting

>Star Wars
>reference God or deities generally
Doubting severely.

Nebraska is a third world country

>hurr what are allegories

You should drop the trip so people won't remember how dumb you are.

Patrician taste

>force men to be women
>turns out they're better at it than women are

I'm really glad I got a vasectomy. Only an unintelligent person would force an innocent human being into this fucked up world ruled by the evil that has taken over.

It's probably unintentionally mocking liberals. It shows that liberals (The Resistance) don't actually care about the downtrodden or the oppressed when they were in a position of power to correct this, and only really care about these groups when it can give them back their high life and power. They've had about 26(?) years in power to fix those injustices, but from what we've seen, they've accomplished nothing.

The most annoying shit is these FAGGOT pop critics that feel rebelious while shilling for fucking Disney
Same with some other faggots i know that shill for EA
Same with some other faggots i know that shill for Obama,Hillary or Trump
Kill all journalists i say

What injustices you mean exactly?

Even then, the Republic the rebels fight for is always very aggressively trying to get neutral planets to join it and has a blind fear for any planets that don't want to join. EU books or canon books, it's always an empire by another name, just way more ineffective in actually getting shit done.

Liberals nuts slays coop other peoples things and try to use it for their own agenda. I thought Lucas killed star wars. Lol good job disney. I'm just glad I'm not a kid or a teen anymore. I was old enough to enjoy the first movies in theater and haven't cared about the series since.

I hate that jew.

I didnt notice any social commentary. Having the top 3 rebels women was maybe a bit much but it really doesnt matter

>WAAAAAAAAAAHH WHY DO MOVIES HAVE MESSAGES
>WAAAAAAAH WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING BAD GUYS

See this, this is the bitching of a bitter shill from Russian Tomatoes trying to perform mental gymnastics to figure out his toxic mindset isn't fit for the world we live in.

>not so subtle social commentary
leftists can't do subtle social commentary because most of them are totalitarians. They are seeking to micromanage the thought and speech of everyone. If you have subtlety, you might be leaving things open to interpretation. If you leave things open to interpretation, the audience may potentially arrive at ideas or conclusions that you don't like. So nothing can be left to interpretation. The message is shoved right down your throat. They are prescribing the exact thoughts/feelings you should have without leaving any room for ideological divergence.

this

Everything has become political now.

Everything.

>WOMEN: WE CAN'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT OURSELVES WITHOUT MANUFACTURING PERCEIVED STRIFE AND TEARING DOWN OTHERS