Why would the ships run out of 'fuel'?

Why would the ships run out of 'fuel'?

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HANG ON CHEWIE WE DIDN'T FUEL UP THE LAST 7 TIMES WE JUMPED TO LIGHTSPEED THE DODGE THE EMPIRE.

*pulls into Sunoco*

Would be slayer if he fixed his teeth desu

Because motion requires energy? Because chemical reactions are not self-sustaining?
Because of entropy?

Why do you need to put gas in your car?

>comparing cars on earth to ships in space

Then why did it take 8 films to address that ships required fuel? In the first 3 we never once see the falcon need refueling. Seriously point out one time in all the other movies that we see a ship being refueled, mention being refueled or a station that provides FUEL for a starship.

Does fuel not run out in space? What is your point?

I assumed they had to constantly burn fuel to accelerate since the nu-Empire was doing the same.
Obviously once you run out of fuel this way you can't stop moving or get into orbit around anything, so the plot point still makes absolutely zero sense and fuck me, I guess.

Inertia is inertia, regardless of gravity.

>Then why did it take 8 films to address that ships required fuel? In the first 3 we never once see the falcon need refueling.
Rey accidentally killed Nibbler when she tried to fuck him(it?) and now the universe has no dark matter

This is why Star Wars is so retarded.

They have antigrav. They have antigrav powered by some sort of fusion.

On all the cutaway drawings of the Falcon there are NO fuel tanks. None.

Star Wars is set up as a universe where spaceships use microfusion powerplants to power engines that don't require reaction mass.

But then the writers add shit like Han saying he thinks they can reach Cloud City, implying the Falcon has a limited range, etc. But they never fill you in on what's going on.

In Star Wars absolutely anything can happen because there are LITERALLY no rules because NONE of the tech has ever been explained.

there's quite a bit of difference in friction is the point. Press the gas once in space and go on forever in that speed until you hit something. Not that it matters because Star Wars has always given less of a shit about how space works

I thought it was implied that he thinks he could make it there without being caught by the empire. They had just eluded the whole fleet after all.

Especially in this movie, they literally say they are faster than the first order because their ships are lighter. What the fuck does weight have to do with speed in space where everything is weightless and only mass matters?

your mom has antigrav and she'd be a black hole otherwise

>he doesn't own the countless Star Wars Encyclopaediae

SW is meant to be fantasy, not science fiction. The problem is when they add obstacles that need a scientific explanation, then it becomes half assed science fiction. The OT and even the prequels avoided that very well. This film does not.

Problem is that the odorous individuals that call themselves Star Wars fans are convinced that it is a cogent science fiction universe. Probably because of the mountains of licensed shit that has been pumped out that explains film props with meaningless verbiage.

Obi wan bought fuel on utapau in the third film

he says he wants fuel but he never says it's for the ship. Fuel for what? We know that fuel exists (The use mining equipment and the like powered by steam, etc) but never once does it say that the fuel is used for ships.

Besides all of that was just a ruse to give him reason to be there and catch the enemy.

>real life aircraft carriers have nuclear fuel that lasts 25 years
>but science fantasy space ships still need the equivalent of gasoline

Because they've always had ship fuel. There's plenty to criticize in this movie but ship fuel has always been a thing in SW. What do you think those hoses were filling the X and Y-Wings with before the Battle of Yavin? Torpedo Juice? If you're going to call out TLJ at least do it for things that actually go against established lore, like Luke being almost the polar opposite of who he was at the end of Jedi.

And Super Leia? People are constantly bitching about lack of science in their science-fantasy movie so here's some shit. Leia is in zero G, she wouldn't pull the ship closer to her because her mass is nowhere near similar and since she's not anchored to anything, using The Force to pull herself in was basically just using it as a rescue rope. Was the scene dumb? Sure, but it doesn't break the lore behind The Force.

What does break the lore is Luke thinking about murdering his nephew over visions. The man with endless hope and optimism got flipped, turned upside down and moved in with his aunti and uncle outside of Anchorhead.

didn't they just come out of a planet? why didn't they refuled there? you'd think having extra fuel for such an important ship carrying important people would have more fuel reserve just in case.
why not steal fuel from the other ships?
why not use the fuel from the other ally ships and x wings and move everyone in the main ship?
why not have Leia go inside the enemy ship with her force field and steal the gas? why doesn't she create a bubble shield with the force for a small group to steal gas?
why not move everyone in the main ship and use the other ships to smash the first orders ships with light speed?
why not go back or send people to the planet they were just in to get more gas?
why not just get more gas from anywhere if it's so easy to go under the first order's radar through smaller ships?
why not fly to the salt planet? they're going to die in space anyways, why not risk it? they might have a bigger chance for a row rebels to survive down there since the first order can't kill all of you in a planet so quickly, they have to search for you if you all spread out, they don't have a planet destroyer anymore.

I can see small ships requiring some sort of fuel, but big capital ships? they have reactors. We know that because we have seen them.

why not use the force to push them?

the resistance is too poorly managed and funded to afford a full tank of hypermatter for their one capital ship

i mean really, they've been opposing the first order for like 10 years, at which time they were allowed to operate without real opposition during the time the new republic maintained order, and all they managed to accumulate was one capital ship, a few support craft, and some fighters

It's Stur Wurs. We ain't gotta 'splain sheeit!

Leia using the force to pull herself from danger doesn't break the lore at all. Her surviving a direct fucking firey explosion that engulfs her then spending a ton of time floating in space only to survive both with no real physical injuries before the healing shit they use does.

I think the Falcon was also fueling in the hangar on Tatooine after Obi-Wan and Luke solicited Han Solo's services

BRAIN GO OFF

No the falcon is a "junker" it's constantly in need of repairs, not fuel.

If it needed fuel why would a space ship that has to carry secret cargo not also carry extra fuel so they can AVOID having to make stops? We see multiple times that they are currently flying with empty cargo holds.

That's because Fuel wasn't an actual thing. The massive ships run off reactors so they certainly shouldn't need fuel either.

ur mums a junker LOL

>not 76
one job

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fuel/Legends
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Fuel
An example from Old EU. JK:JO you have to help Lando refuel the Lady Luck before you can leave Nar Shadaa.
Another example from Old EU would be the Peragus fuel mining facility. A place that mined fuel for capital ships and which was necessary for the restoration of Telos
An example from Current Canon and the previously mentioned fueling before the BoY


I agree with you, and that is actually something that breaks the lore. Unless Luke taught Leia Force Protect™ and Force Heal™ to beyond master levels.

YOU PROMISED YOU'D NEVER TELL!

they were in space so their inertia would carry them forward at the same speed, even if they ran out of fuel (unless they come too close to a planet or something).

the whole scenario was very contrived

how did the first order started?
wasn't the empire heavily crippled after jedi?
why did they stopped calling themselves rebels?
why did the Empire scraps started calling themselves the first order?
did rebels stopped calling themselves rebels because they took over the galaxy after winning against the Empire? then why create a resistance?
how can the first order be so powerful so quickly if they are the scraps from a obliterated Empire?
why are they called the resistance? why not rebels? everyone seemed happy and fine on that planet that got blown up by the star killer, before the first order killed it of course.
why need a resistance if everything was fine and it was just a small Empire group in bum fuck nowhere in the galaxy?
who is snoke? why is he trying to start shit with the rebels or resistance?
does he want to take over? or kill Luke? or Both?
after winning the fight with the Empire, why doesn't the whole galaxy team up to fight this small group called the first order before they get fuck huge or threatening enough and form the Empire again?
why is the resistance so small if we won?
are rebels and the resistance two different things? why don't they help each other?
did the galaxy settle down so fast after the defeat of the Empire that were basically back to prequel era ignorance and the Empire can get away with shit again and people need to start another group to fight it back? did the galaxy not learn it's massive mistake the first time?

you actually go faster the longer you go because of the loss of mass from the fuel

Why as there a moon in the middle of nowhere that has no plant or solar system it's connected to? This is now how moons work.


Clearly the thing is a fifth death star to be revealed next movie.

>how did the first order started?
I don't know
>wasn't the empire heavily crippled after jedi?
Yes. In old EU it ended up being splintered by the various Moffs, generals, and admirals becoming warlords fighting each other for dominance (typical Sith bullshit)
>why did they stopped calling themselves rebels?
Because Disney wanted to reboot the series instead of continue it
>why did the Empire scraps started calling themselves the first order?
That's what that particular Imperial Remnant group called themselves. Like all Remnants they see themselves as the true heirs to the Galactic Empire
>did rebels stopped calling themselves rebels because they took over the galaxy after winning against the Empire? then why create a resistance?
Apparently The Resistance© is made up of people living in Remnant controlled space and operate within said space

Cont.

>how can the first order be so powerful so quickly if they are the scraps from a obliterated Empire?
Fuck if I know
>why are they called the resistance? why not rebels? everyone seemed happy and fine on that planet that got blown up by the star killer, before the first order killed it of course.
Propaganda. Unironically pic related inb4 Sup Forums. inb4 you can't inb4. Also it sounds hipper and fresher than that stuffy old Rebellion
>why need a resistance if everything was fine and it was just a small Empire group in bum fuck nowhere in the galaxy?
Imperials still control pretty large chunks of the galaxy. Many of the folks that live in these Imperial controlled systems don't like that.
>who is snoke? why is he trying to start shit with the rebels or resistance?
Because he's a bad guy. No other info is given about him so no better answers can really be given.
>does he want to take over? or kill Luke? or Both?
Probably both if the ideal choice fails. No more soft slippers for bunyons.

Cont.

>after winning the fight with the Empire, why doesn't the whole galaxy team up to fight this small group called the first order before they get fuck huge or threatening enough and form the Empire again?
Starkiller based btfo nearly the entire New Republic and its fleet. And also because the NR thought a Sith empire would honor deals of disarmament
>why is the resistance so small if we won?
Someone told the Republic that Leia was Vader's daughter. This pissed a lot of people off and scared others away from joining Leia's cause
>are rebels and the resistance two different things? why don't they help each other?
Rebels became the New Republic. See above for reasons for not helping.
>did the galaxy settle down so fast after the defeat of the Empire that were basically back to prequel era ignorance and the Empire can get away with shit again and people need to start another group to fight it back? did the galaxy not learn it's massive mistake the first time?
Yes. Like I said, Disney wants a reboot. Not a continuation of the story.

ops forgot pic

>No on-board nuclear power or solar power
So if the go empty someone has to tow them into a space station?

>Why do bombs fall down in space?
>Why doesn't leia die instantly in the vacuum of space?
>How do you run out of fuel in space?
>Why does weight matter in space?
>Why does Po bank his ship to turn?
>How did Purple hair turn the ship without fuel?
>How can you communicate at hyperspeed with radios?
>How can you track through lightspeed?
>How do you crack encryption with house keys?
>If Finn can fast travel to a casino why can't he fast travel to pick up fuel?
>Why not use the 2 support ships to lightspeed crash the first order's fleet?
>If Kylo Ren can fix his scars with plastic surgery, why doesn't snoke do the same?

We never see anyone take a shit either, does that mean they don't need to in a galaxy far, far away?

>Jar Jar steps on a pile of shit
Try again

What's this from?

Because one is known human biology and the other is a starship that only ever is shown worrying about making shit work like the hyperdrive. never once was fuel shown to be a critical issue to the working of a ship.

spaceballs

Jar Jar stepping in animal shit in a jungle or whatever is not the same as showing us Obi squatting in a bush and straining out a log.

SPACEBALLS THE MOVIE

Why didn't they just go at a speed that keeps them out of reach, then cut the engine?

Mass and weight are interchangeable when gravity stays the same

>they forgot this canon scene from the OT

youtube.com/watch?v=ZxAYii0TDSw

fuel for his massive gaping poohole, what the fuck else would he need it for you fuckstain.

>nuclear power

How do you guys actually think "nuclear power" becomes electricity?

I seriously doubt you can extract enough power from a fuckload of steam turbines to power a hyper drive or whatever the fuck it is. I always assumed Star Wars systems worked off of some hi-tech sci-fantasy power source.

If they say it uses fuel, then it uses fuel. Who cares.

This one is actually easy to answer. In space neither ship will slow down if you cut the engines, but the one with it's engines still running is still going to gradually increase in speed while the one with cut engines is now just floating at a constant speed. keeping their engines going was the only thing keeping the empire from catching them

The real stupid thing is what the first order did. they just...followed. They weren't going to run out of fuel, they should have had the ship just jump slightly ahead of the rebels with their lightspeed then btfo them as the rebels scramble to change direction in time.

>using lightspeed to jump a few hundred kilometers

Fuel to run mining equipment to dig up metals used for weapons and ship building. Think for two seconds about how many pieces of equipment require fuel that are not vehicles.

We're talking about a galaxy that has ships that run on reactor power so I call bullshit on those massive ships needing fuel to run.

Protip: Our current nuclear powered carriers can run for 25 years with no extra fuel. I'm pretty sure this movie wasn't a 25 year long chase scene.

jesus fucking christ you people. they had to keep accelerating to stay out of range. you need fuel to accelerate in space

so the better option is to chase them for a fucking week which could be the same amount of distance and give them plenty of time to try a bunch of different plans to turn the tide?

is obi wan gonna go do some mining?
Dont worry i agree that its dumb as fuck that the capital class ships "run out of fuel", but obi wan was obviously talking about fuel for his ship not to fuel his mining equipment so he could manufacture some fucking guns

Didn't han mension refuelling to lando on bespin?

It'd be impossible to use LS without going straight and only going that short distance.

They should've used some sort of... idk... code breaker or something to board the rebel ship.

You really don't pay attention to anything in movies do you? He flew there pretending to be making a trade deal for fuel for the republic which was just a lie to disguise the fact he was there to catch grievous.

Is that why he tells them hes here to search for greivous?
>I dont pay attention

they are magnetically accelerated
humans can survive up to 30 seconds in a vacuum
by fucking using it dumbass
thrust vectoring
she still had a bit of fuel
quantum entanglement is a thing
no one knows, it's "new tech"
they weren't house keys
that........... that's actually a good one. But probably because the point was to disable their lightspeed tracking tech, otherwise fuel would still just be buying time

the kamikaze attack only worked because the bad guys were focused on the transports until it was too late

maybe he doesn't want to, maybe it only works with new wounds.

I can't believe I waste my time with you drooling idiots sometimes

No they were looking for a place to hide fro mthe empire. they were fine with waiting inside the asteroid until it turned out to be a worm. The whole plan was to make it somewhere safe without being found. He thought cloud city was the closest place in range to hide at. it had nothing to do with fuel.

Cruisers aren't capital ships. The rebel fleet didn't have any capital ships.

sorry to trigger your autism

What they should've done was split up or evacuate important personnel to one of the support ships, and have the ships use lightspeed in different directions. The tracker was only on the main ship and, as far as I'm aware, can only be used to track one ship which would more than likely be the big ship.

No he was telling a neutral city his intentions without lying to them so they know he isn't there to pose a threat. He already knew grievous was on utapau (because if you didn't know that then you really weren't paying attention and just watched a youtube clip) but he made it sound like he didn't know what he knew and let them offer that information freely.

The whole conversation was ultimately meaningless, he didn't need fuel, he was just there for grievous.

>this guy clearly can't believe that there could be both fueled ships and non fueled ships. Wouldn't it be more realistic to believe more primitive worlds (especially not those in the republic) to have more primitive ships thus an actual need for fuel?

The republic was the cream of the crop. they had the best ships, likely ones reactor powered.

Even if we suppose there indeed was a need for fuel during the prequel's time let's not forget that the republic was what, 30-40 years before the millenium falcon? Are we to believe there were no advancements made in ships during this time? How about another 30 -40 after that? You really don't think ship technology could advance in such a long span of time? I mean fuck the first order just showed off their new light speed tracking tech. Clearly someone is advancing equipment.

Underrated.

Exactly. 20 years ago we didn't have phones that are basically small computers. and this guy is believing technology just refused to advance in 80 years

i fucking answered every one of those. god fuck you people

What tha fuck is sunoco?

>Disney reaction gif
Spotted the shill.

>these mental gymnastics
What are these guys doing here? Going to clean the space shitter?
Im not arguing that there is ships that need fuel or not, I too believe its BS that the resistance ships ran out of fuel Im only arguing that Obi wan clearly asks for FUEL for his fucking starfighter in ep3.
Holy fuck can you cunts keep up with the chain of comments or what?

By fucking using it dumbass. Humans can survive up to 30 seconds in a vacuum thrust vectoring Quantum entanglement is a thing. No one knows, it's "new tech", they weren't house keys. She still had a bit of fuel.

That's actually a good one, the kamikaze attack only worked because the bad guys were focused on the transports until it was too late but probably because the point was to disable their lightspeed tracking tech, otherwise fuel would still just be buying time

I can't believe I waste my time with you drooling idiots sometimes maybe he doesn't want to, maybe it only works with new wounds, they are magnetically accelerated.

they probably should have showed the rebels jumping like 20 times to try to get away before the running out of fuel plot.

All your answers were shit. How's the mouse treating you?

Believe it or not, space does create wear and tear on vehicles, we've constantly seen ships land and get inspected for repairs. it happens literally every time the falcon lands and needs to fix some broke shit.

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my answers matched the quality of the questions. I'm not going to write an essay for literally no one to read.

Except you didn't

>Asks for fuel
>expects maintenance
Jesus fucking christ user just give it up

>has to ask for a service that has been shown in literally every movie up to an including episode 3

try harder faggot

I'm not going to write the quality of the questions.My answers matched the essay for literally no one to read.

HE ASKS FOR FUEL HOLY FUCK and then they run a HOSE to his ship.
you and this fuckhead must be fucking 12 or something, I'm fucking done.

>Another example from Old EU would be the Peragus fuel mining facility. A place that mined fuel for capital ships and which was necessary for the restoration of Telos
Peragus provided fuel to Citadel Station so that it could remain in orbit above Telos. The destruction of Peragus was a death sentence for the station.

dude how about the guy who just replies to me with jumbled versions of my own words? this fucking place

Every time you speed up or slow down and every time you change trajectory, that would eat up fuel.

More importantly, if any other ship can leave the carrier without being noticed Prior to them being sold out Why didn't they just send them down the ol space shops to buy some more space fuel and come back?

I can't really answer any of your questions, but according to Disney Star Wars, the Resistance exists for one of two reasons:

1) there was some treaty between the Empire and the Rebels where they both agreed to disarm. Leia said this was too dangerous because the Empire couldn't be trusted, but no one believed her and she was considered a warmonger, so she had to go off on her own.

2) the Rebels disbanded according to the treaty, but knew they had to maintain some kind of active force, so they unofficially allowed Leia to do that while publicly disowning it.

The second scenario I'm pretty sure was in some kind of "official" Star Wars thing like a visual dictionary or something, while the first one I think is just some wookieepedia bullshit or something I've read.

If you use the force too much you die. That's how Luke died in this movie, he over exterted his old ass.

He asks for the guy who just replies to me with jumbled versions of my own words? This fucking place and this fuckhead dude. Every time you speed up or slow down and every time you must be fucking 12 or something, I'm fucking would eat up fuel

It's dodrinkos for that long trip home playing games on autopilot.

You mean the fucking air hose that cleans space dust particles off the ship? Again it's all about them repairs my dude.