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Dumbing of Age General: The Non-Paying Fans Of The Comic Actually Enjoy This Strip, Contrary To The Opinions Of The Paying Fans Edition

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>The Non-Paying Fans Of The Comic Actually Enjoy This Strip, Contrary To The Opinions Of The Paying Fans Edition

What? Is that from the last thread or something

It probably would have helped to post an example, but yes.

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Thanks for making the thread user. I really do appreciate it. I don't care for making threads.

>Sal is approximately five heads tall
>one head is approximately nine and one-half inches high
>Sal is approximately forty-seven and one-half inches high
>Sal is approximately 3.95833333 feet tall

Umm.

>being this autistic

It's not like having proportionally bigger heads is a legitimate stylistic art form or anything.

That's honestly being nitpicky, it's a cartoonish style and some people pull off those proportions in real life. The real problem is that this is basically a model sheet, and if these proportions aren't apparent (due to Willis' buffer) within 3 months of that creation, then he's inconsistent.

Fuck the 5 heads thing, her right leg is fucking shorter than her left and Willis has never seen anyone smoke before.

Apparently Indiana University has a campus in the Shire.

If Amber weren't Mary Sue enough for you, now she's a chubby nerd girl with Olympic gold medal acrobatic skills and she can VA and throw her voice like a pro like it's nothing.

Next comic, she'll catch the winning sports ball, and then sign the World Peace accord.

BULLSHIT!

I'm just saying, an 18 year old woman should not be the height of somebody half her age.

Is throwing your voice a thing you can actually do? I know it's supposedly a parlor trick or something, and also it happened in "Scooby-Doo", but is it an actual thing?

Also, yeah, this is just stupid.

Throwing your voice is definitely a thing, but it's very difficult, and even people who can do it well have trouble if the acoustics of the room aren't perfet.

Here's how that thread ended up, fyi.

Minderrific or whatever has been worse than Cerb lately, but I haven't had the desire or patience to read and cap Willis's house retards lately.

Where is Amber's bullshit 'signal cable'? Vanished into the realm of retcon most likely

Amber refusing to interact with Sal directly is getting old fucking fast. As in it was old years ago fast.

At least they're making... some progress?
I doubt we'll get any actual progression soon until the end of the Rapin' Ryan story or whatever.

>I'm just saying, an 18 year old woman should not be the height of somebody half her age.
Even the shortest person I know (that doesn't have dwarfism) is only 4'9". Being barely 4 feet tall is generally known as being a preteen.

>I'm just saying, an 18 year old woman should not be the height of somebody half her age.

Dipper and Mabel are roughly the height of a one year old child. Lincoln Loud is the same height as a three year old. Cartoon and comic characters tend to have weird heights.

Shitty. Like all around.
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Amber popping up instead of yelling to close the cocoon is dumb.

The ensuing freak out is rote by this point.

Throwing her voice is a lame diversion and the idea that he went for a diversion instead of making them confront things even a little sucks. It's probably not a good sign when a character has to just describe the thing that happened.

Speaking of which, "Ha, ha, fell into a ravine" is an awkward thing for Amber to say considering she can see what's happening, and ravine is the least unique/humorous Mario Kart obstacle ever. He went from using blue shells as a metaphor for Amber's honorable nature (which he can fuck all the way off with), but he couldn't pull a chain chomp or thwomp reference?

And to top it off, there's not really a punchline in this strip. The closest thing is Danny's line, maybe? Or just he absurdity of her throwing her voice in general. Since this strip does end on a light note more naturally than most of the other ones he forces weird jokes into, he should've been able to find a better way to finish it off.

Remember how this was supposed to be the Willis comic without superpowers or divine god interventions?

Pepperidge Farm don't remember fuck all.

My nephew is in second grade and is already taller than four feet.

That went out the door the moment Becky and her father survived a rollover in his car and while he was hanging halfway out of the driver's side window, Sal caught Amazi-Girl on her bike as she defied physics and flew sideways and directly into the path of an oncoming truck, and...

...well, everything Toedad Saga. There's really no point in pretending there's any sense anymore.

I'd be willing to bet that he still expects us to treat it as a realistic setting.

I just want to know when the Cheese is going to make his big appearance and level the place. Maybe Joyce has a psychic break and becomes the Cheese/ Carrie?

I'm saying that your calculation of her height is wrong because you're basing it on a bad assumption about the size of her head being the same as a normal human and not a cartoon character. For a better scale argument see if you can find a pic of her walking through a doorway, doors are 6'8" tall.

>find a pic
I'll give you four.

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I did it myself, she's 5'0".

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Have this bonus I found in the tags that actually has some subtle set-up for Amber realizing Sal is Sal.

I say "subtle" because this is how the conflict is reintroduced two years later.

Mine: 6.5*133/172 = 5.026

6.5*100/122 = 5.43

6.5*182/203 = 5.83

Floor and feet are not visible, and panel is out of scale with the ones showing the bottom of the door.

6.5*162/199 = 5.29

Top of door and bottom of sal not visible in frame


...So he doesn't draw her entirely consistently (or maybe it's the doors that aren't consistent), but she's consistently over 5'.

>Amazi-Girl Phone Tracker application
>on Sal's phone
>nothing happens with it at all

I forgot that happened.

So I suppose the conclusion is that Willis can't into model sheets, and his characters aren't intended to be four feet tall.

Little nitpick but 6'8" is 6.66... not 6.5.

Also I tried it with these 2 strips and got 4' 7.6" and 4' 8.9"

>the first strip, Jason is brushing the top of the door frame with his hair
>The second, his hair barely clears the knob

I'm really questioning this endeavor to call Willy out on technical character heights.

Can't we just say he's shit and be done with it? How tall is Willis in this panel? Does it match up?

She broke up with Danny for talking to Sal. Amber is a fucking cunt...but I'd bang her in the ass so I'm conflicted...

There is nothing conflicting about fucking someone you hate in the ass.

Did the Sal/Jason plot ever go anywhere?

Yeah. On slipshine. That's it.

>Did the Sal/Jason plot ever go anywhere?
Right now Sal hates his guts and doesn't want to talk to him. Jason's lost his confidence in being a good tutor and tried to talk to Walky but he avoided getting help.

So. him getting help might lead into some sort of discussion of Sal if we follow the trend of extremely unprofessional faculty.

For reference, Word of God says Joyce is 5'4" and Ethan is 6'0". It's on his Tumblr.

Shitty as the comic may be, I always enjoy somer super ventriloquism.

Who the fuck wants magnets

necrobumper

>necrobumper
I prefer the term undead-flipper

As much as I like to see Willis getting a swift kick over his art, I have to say this argument is retarded

Clark needs to change to Superman just to use his powers? Im pretty sure this is one power he could use with his street clothes on standing right next to Perry and still get the same result

Sal would be pretty hot if it wasn't for that costly middleman.

Her personality

God isn't real therefore those measurements aren't real.

>Oh god, it's Sal, the nexus of all my childhood drama. Her very presence is stressing me the fuck out!
>Lol, let me just pull off a fancy trick to fuck with her.

Stop stalling Willis god damn...

It's either stalling or he eventual cop out when they get to the point. Not much to look forward to.

It's either stalling or the eventual cop out when they get to the point. Not much to look forward to.

Did he ever actually make porn of these two, or is this just false advertising

A censored version was posted in an earlier thread. It's pretty stupid.

This would be like the third instance, and yes it's an actual drawing. Not sure why it wouldn't be? Someone posted an edit of it in prior thread .

Even Willis isn't dumb enough to do a fakeout on his pornography.

Is it even possible to throw your voice far off like that? I mean that must take some serious skill or something.

Amber wrote a program for her DS that allows her to hijack PA systems and broadcast messages.

Doesn't this strip indicate that Sal knows Amber is Amazi-Girl?

>Amber wrote a program for her DS
Pretty sure it's a 3DS.
in that case, I could kinda buy it as some advanced homebrew she downloaded.
Then again, how did she use it without exiting Mario Kart?

She hacked the game. In real time.

The blue thing that looks like a DS is actually her phone. For some reason.

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Sal's grades didn't go up. She blamed Jason. She started studying on her own and started to get better grades.

Source, please.

I know Willis has done no research into 3DS homebrew, but I have so I'll show off my power level.
Mario Kart is not an entrypoint into 3DS homebrew programs, but some games are. The most commonly used titles were Cubic Ninja, IronFall, and the 3DS YouTube app; all of these and several others have been patched, though some entry points still exist. It's possible to overflow integers and other techie shit and run your own code, whether it be a specific program or a launcher into a library of programs you have on your SD card.

But making those programs would require a computer and compiler, as the 3DS is too inefficient to do all that jazz itself, much less compile and run a program in real-time.

Yeah, if it was a blue thing, then it's her phone. Apparently she has a wallet case. And also it's her personal Amber phone that she uses despite doing everything in her power to separate any links from Amazi-Girl to Amber.

>And also it's her personal Amber phone that she uses despite doing everything in her power to separate any links from Amazi-Girl to Amber.
This is related to a trait that many of the characters have: they are not as smart as they think they are.

>Doesn't this strip indicate that Sal knows Amber is Amazi-Girl?
Not sure I follow the logic here. Anyway, the reason she is throwing her voice is because Sal explicitly doesn't know that she's Amazi-Girl. Otherwise she would just look at Amber.

>The blue thing that looks like a DS is actually her phone.

>Yeah, if it was a blue thing, then it's her phone. Apparently she has a wallet case.

It's supposed to be a smartphone that slides out to reveal a keyboard (cause she's a power user!). Willis used to show it swiveling way too much as if it were a hinged model (look at that second strip, it's opening like a clamshell), when it's probably similar to a Nokia E7 where it slides and tilts to a fixed angle. He does a better job with that recently.

Out of curiosity, how many people post here and in the DoA comments section?

Don't post your name there, obviously. You'll never hear the end of it.

I used to comment on notable strips, but I pretty much never go over there anymore.

I still have no idea how that phone is supposed to work. All I know is that anybody with an eye for detail should notice Amber and Amazi-Girl using the same model of phone. Also, I know that Amazi-Girl shouldn't be using the same phone as Amber; I feel that we're all familiar enough with the whole midnight rally/Rapin' Ryan scenario to understand why.

I only post when I feel like I have something to say that's "innocent" enough to get past Willis' strict set of standards.

>I only post when I feel like I have something to say that's "innocent" enough to get past Willis' strict set of standards.
Same. I used to post there every so often. Almost never since the Mary/Carla incident.

I still fail to see how what Mary hates the most is that Carla exists/is trans. She hates it when people bother her. I'm pretty sure she hates Roz far more than she hates Carla, for one thing.

i used to post there pretty frequently but i got pissed off at the other commenters and gave it up

i kept it up for a little while because my name linked to my own comic and i hoped people would click on it but then i committed to not posting anymore and refuse to go back on my word

I commented on the Nightstar Zoo back in the day (old IW! forum), and on Shortpacked! for a while (even got banned once by Willy for a bit), but never on DoA.

He's long ago chased away any commenters who were tolerable when I commented, and now it's the new crew that makes me want to gouge my eyes out when I read their dreck.

>Performative Allyship and the De-Amplifying of Marginalized Voices

Congrats, you own a fucking thesaurus. Now can you use it to write a comic with actual characters instead of strawmen and author surrogates?

No, but he can come up with a lot of cheap ways of insulting someone's parents.

Cerb is a tranny who uses the strip as a tool for therapy, right? What's mind's excuse?

I don't think any of us know that one. They probably read a lot of books, because bad decisions can make good stories.

I'm pretty sure he's new. I have no idea if he posts on the main page since I try to stay away from that. All I know is he loves CAPS and he's the most rabid Willy defender I've seen in a while.

I mean, as brain damaged as Cerb is, she's more of a defender of her favorite characters than a defender of Willis. She's basically tried to co-opt her faves as parts of herself, rather than them being parts of Willy, and I do believe she's altered the course of the comic to some small degree by doing so.

I just thought of something. Amber's dad kidnapped Danny. Becky's dad kidnapped Becky.

If Ruth's granddad kidnaps Billie or Howard, can we definitely say that Willis has no creativity?

Oh man. Sir Clint the Bold would totally kidnap Billie to get rid of her influence on his granddaughter too.

Now I want the arc where Old Man Clint chloroforms Billie, throws her in the trunk of a car, and tries to drive it off into the nearest quarry while the rest of the cast give chase.

>They finally catch up to them at the quarry where they find Clint and Billie have bonded over their mutual disdain for others and desire to maintain the socioeconomic standing of their family through personal relationships
>Clint then gets Billie's DUI expunged and Billie hooks up Howie with one of the slutty underclassmen with low standards at her old high school

Billie becomes the granddaughter who didn't turn out to be a pathetic, mentally weak, spineless loser like her father that Clint never had.

Exaggerated shortness usually is done to indicate youth or extreme age.

See, that would be hilarious. But it won't happen.

Instead, we'll just get Clint kidnapping Howard in what is blatantly a kidnapping that everybody (including Howard) except for the main cast will seem to ignore, followed by dramatic tension and actual conflict being punctuated by unnecessary and often inappropriate jokes.

Howard lives with Clint. He drove to the university with Clint. It's not kidnapping if you're taking someone home.

Good point. Then we'll have to hastily write and illustrate a weak sequence in which Ruth and/or Billie convince Howard that Clint is abusing him, after which Howard can officially be considered kidnapped, thus keeping with our original gameplan.

This sequence will be completed within the hours of 12AM to 8AM and somehow only consist of four strips.

the fact that she was willing to use it as an insult means she existentially hates trans people rather than, you know, being willing to use whatever thinks she will hurt someone she's mad at.

>De-Amplifying

I've heard of this.

It's called MUTING.

Howard is a minor and Clint is his legal guardian, it wouldn't be kidnapping without actually going through the legal process to remove custody.

That's still not enough to be kidnapping. Parental kidnapping requires a violation of custody arrangements with the guardian of the child. Ruth and Billie can kidnap Howard, but Clint can't kidnap Howard unless his custody rights have been removed.

And good luck getting Willis to introduce and resolve a plot in anything less than two weeks.

>she existentially hates trans people

Who can blame her?

De-amplifying isn't a word.

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One of the most annoying flaws with this storyline was that Carla voluntarily followed Mary down the hall. Imagine if Carla had just gone back to her room. Mary would never have said anything transphobic, and Ruth wouldn't have shown her magical teleportation powers. And Carla wouldn't have mentioned her trans status to Ruth. Interesting.

Did Danny and Ethan ever fuck? Literally the only reason I kept reading for a couple months after I realized this was bad.

No, but there's an implication that they'll at least kiss at some point before or during June.

Thank you for validating my decision to quit this dissapointment glacier.

See you tomorrow, user.

Sorry, I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck "performative allyship and the de-amplifying of marginalized voices" means.
The more I try, the more my headache grows.
Allyship isn't a word, either.

See below from last thread:

>Okay, female here. I have a Master's degree in English and took 2 feminism-based literature classes in grad school (to be fair, I didn't know one of them would be focused on women). I also spend enough time on Tumblr to get a full picture of what we have here.

>Ally = someone who stands up for minorities

>Marginalization = ignoring minorities in mainstream stuff and treating them like crap

>Thus: marginalized voices = minorities who try to speak up but are shut down by straight, white men

>Performative allyship = claiming to be an ally for the sake of being an ally and saying that you are so awesome for helping the cause

>De-amplifying = muting, smothering, etc.

>De-amplifying voices = speaking over someone


>Let's put all of this together.

>Performative allies are people who pretend to be good friends of minorities but don't actually give a crap about them.

>Performative allies who de-amplify marginalized voices are people who yell "BLACK LIVES MATTER" when actual black people are talking.

>Roz is screwed, because she talked over Leslie about gay rights, and this seems distinctly pointed toward shutting her down for good.

Can't Amberzingal just drive her 5'2" meat vehicle off the nearest fucking cliff and be done with it?

Also, enjoy the blatant fuck-up in the last panel by Davey 'Three Month Bumper' Willis.