The ending is absolutely perfect, a perfect conclusion to Luke's character. He fulfills Obi Wan's example...

The ending is absolutely perfect, a perfect conclusion to Luke's character. He fulfills Obi Wan's example, he reconciles his OT idealism with the understanding of the prequel's reality, he manages to hold off an entire army without abandoning his pacifism. It shows a strong understanding of the character, and the fact that he's pushing the Force harder that it ever has before fits great.

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You're right. Only plebs will disagree.

True, Luke's character arc was about being a different Jedi than Obi-wan and Yoda and saving Vader rather than killing him, so it makes perfect sense he would end up exactly like Obi-Wan.

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>a perfect conclusion to Luke's character

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Ebin pasta.

Why even use the fucking illusion instead of coming himself if he's going to die anyways?

#NotMyLuke
#MuhHeadCanon
#ButWhatAboutTheNovels

Yeah, that was beatiful and powerful. Except for the fact that these rebels would still have died if it wasn't for some retarded foxes and Rey lifting a dozens of rocks with barely and training in force.

OH NO NO NO NO

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Look he posted it again.

We definetly could have gotten a worse ending, it would have been the perfect ending if his new Jedi order was still around or if he actually trained rey

>Luke would never have had a moment of weakness
>but Luke would definitely have become and outcast and condemned the Jedi Order in spite of Obi-Wan and Yoda's teachings
Okay!

I’ll give you a better ending

Luke reluctantly trains Rey, then stumbles on her chatting with Kylo and attempts to kill HER. She kills him instead and turns to the Dark Side, to Kylo’s horror. Cue Kylo redemption arc

>and the fact that he's pushing the Force harder that it ever has before fits great.
I love how they just add random new force powers in every movie.

Where the FUCK was his green lightsaber God DAMN it

I'll give you a betterer ending

Luke comes back with Rey and reunites with Leia. She tries to contact Kylo Ren with words "Son, I know there is still good inside you". Luke attempts to kill her, but Leia turns around in the last second and blasts him to the cold vacuum on space. The movie ends with Luke's dying words "The force is female afterall".

>He fulfills Obi Wan's example
>They copied the original trilogy so it's good.
>It's like poetry, sort of. They rhyme.

>STOP HAVING NIGHTMARES WHILE I INVADE THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN MIND!
He was totally in the right to kill Ben for having bad dreams to be honest.

It was stylistically designed to be that way

Green isn't always green.

Isn't it kinda weird how people arguing that Luke was "ruined" by this movie always purposefully post the "evil Luke" image from Kylo's biased and flawed perspective, conveniently ignoring the flashback that comes later? It's almost like this argument can't be argued in good faith and needs to come from an insincere position. Really gets the noggin joggin.

>I don't understand how it would look to a frightened boy in the middle of the night
Well buddy just hang in there. You will get it some day.

I'm not shitting on Kylo. Kylo is justified. But so is Luke. And the person I was quoting is either purposefully misrepresenting the situation or has not watched the movie.

There's nothing wrong with the way he died, it's just that he barely had any screen time. We waited 30 fucking years to see Luke back in action, and all we got was a crazy uncle living like a hermit drinking testicle milk. Even Hamill said he wanted Rian to wait to do that until Ep IX, it did not have to end that way.

Luke was barely in these films. It's a huge fucking letdown.

kek

plebs like Mark Hamill
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>Mark Hamill has a wrong opinion about the characterization of the character he's playing
>Still delivers an excellent performance and holds the movie together basically by himself
Based

Exactly

>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

It was too brief, but that last fight was pretty nice.

Its the only image I have seen posted
Anyway it doesnt matter what expression he had on his face he still stormed into his nephews bedroom lightsabre in hand with the intention of murdering him

he looks scary af

Disney is scared as fuck posting on Sup Forums right now even

shut the fuck up

>the jedi must end, they were fools all along and, at the height of their power, couldnt stop the rise of darth sidious
>I'm not gonna train you, the force doesn't belong to the jedi (jk, definitely gonna train you five minutes later)
>light and dark aren't mutually exclusive, both Luke and Rey can display a dark side, while Kylo isn't beyond redemption yet
>lol jk again, jedis rule. We're still the good guys. See how that little shit grabbed that broom?

It's a masterpiece.

No he didn't

Haven't seen the movie yet, are there any mentions of Anakin at all? If not this will be the first main saga movie where he didn't have even a slight presence.

This isn't Luke's story. If we had Luke hopping around like prequel frog Yoda, taking out the New Order's walkers, with Kylo running off like a pussy after being bested by Luke; it would've devalued Kylo, given Rey nothing to do (although the rock lifting scene was arbitrary), and reminded people of the god awful prequels.

That said, Luke playing limbo with Kylo looked fucking dumb. Should of gone for the classic samurai standoff and quick clash, with Kylo turning around expecting (along with the audience) to see Luke fall to the ground, only for the ruse to be revealed. Then had Rey actually train with him between VIII & IX, so she doesn't come across as such a Force Jesus.

That wouldn't work because like would just need to do his best superman impression and fly back to the ship :^)

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He actually didn't. Why do you exaggerate and lie just to isnsot something you don't like happened?

Note how the people that say Luke was "ruined" continue being completely disingenuous in their arguments.

>This isn't Luke's story. If we had Luke hopping around like prequel frog Yoda, taking out the New Order's walkers, with Kylo running off like a pussy after being bested by Luke; it would've devalued Kylo, given Rey nothing to do (although the rock lifting scene was arbitrary), and reminded people of the god awful prequels.

Strawman. I never once suggested this. All they needed to do was at least either give him more meaning in his training of Rey, which never happened, or at least keep him alive until the end of the trilogy.

I hated this fucking movie. What they did to Luke was not the worst part of it. It was interesting. It was one of the only things you could use your imagination on. You make an interesting point. Luke is meshed into fucking garbage that invalidates so much about the star wars universe.

I did notice that

BIG if true

What does it invalidate?

>prequel's reality
>dude the jedi are actually bad guys lmao
>"reality"

>>"Its only a movie, and if you think you're going to go in there and recapture your childhood, you're setting yourself up for disappointment."

I think we REALLY should listen to this man.....

>> Enjoyed the Force Awakens
Stopped listening there.

So are you just vetoing the point of the prequels, or what? Say what you will about the quality of the movies but that was legitimately what they were about, the folly of the Jedi.

You guys were better when you were doing the fake leaks.
Your fake deconstructions ain't cuttin' it.

How is it fake. Luke's whole thing in this movie was based on his past mentors and experiences.

do you not see how stupid that is? or how it spits in the face of the ot, its story and its themes? if the jedi are bad, that means obi-wan kenobia, one of cinema's most famous heroes, was a bad guy, and he was training luke to be a bad guy. that means yoda was training luke to be a bad guy. that means when luke said "i am a jedi like my father" he was actually saying "i am a bad guy." that means the title of the third film actually means "return of the bad guys"

He doesn’t know where the planet is so he can’t fly there

Look man, maybe you know a whole lot about frightened little boys in the middle of the night but, no judgement, that’s not really my jam

Vader is mentioned like twice I think

I think I understand all the backlash now, it's all extended universe fags.

They wanted luke to do flips and epic cool lightsaber fights, instead of following obi-wan's example.

Also stormfags angry at diversity quotas might have added to it

what? he went to kill his nephew in his sleep
Luke literally confirms this in the movie, its not even ambiguous enough to debate
why you trying to fight the facts so much?

No we wanted fleshed out characters and not 1 hour worth of useless casino plots that never went anywhere.

as opposed to the epic matrix moves we got instead

>>EUfaggot here
Luke's attempt to kill Kylo is debatable as keeping with his character, but the ending was in perfect keeping with his character and his training. Him doing Force flips or tossing the ATAGs around with the Force would've been the same hollow and silly bullshit that the Yoda fight was in AotC...

How people can be so willfully ignorant of the opinions of those who liked the series before DISNEY and take the moral high ground is a fucking mystery. It's not a good picture all around, it's a popcorn explosions loud music quest and quips FLICK.

yeah there is some of that but the main problem is that the movie is also legit shit and seems to hate its old characters and fans

You got it. People wanted him to do an epic 6k Sith kill.
What we got was much better.

Kylo murdered his own father, no other sith was that evil. No redemption for Kylo

>PURPLE WUNTED HIM EPIK KULLS!!!!
>IT HERD NUFFIN DO WIFF CHARACRIZIATION OF AN ESBRARSIHED FRANCHIIZE HERO!!!!

There was everything wrong with his death. It fits perfectly with his fucked up new character though.
Luke abandons everyone and runs away like a pussy when his pedo uncle style murder attempt fails. He finally comes back briefly only to further run away like a pussy into the force

Just saying "misunderstanding" plot points are for spic soap operas and high school drama anime

why wasnt muh luke a gary stu why does he still have flaws? i can't believe he'd have a wrong impulse he wouldn't even act on.

Why does he have dyed hair and a green lightsaber here when his projection had dyed hair and a blue lightsaber?

I don't understand why Luke pojected the blue saber Kilo just destroyed. Can Sup Forums explain this?>

so why didn't he do the same to vader?

THEN WHY WAS MARK CRYING AT THE PREMIERE

Why would Luke be honest about his version of events?

It also literally doesn't matter because he still went into his hut with the intention of killing him.

Luke was ruined and fuckin lame. I still can't believe they made him do a Matrix dodge.

>Movies/Art can't take you places and make you feel things.

Sounds like a poor excuse for a shit film.

It would have been, if it wasnt for the fucking matrix dive

This film is so full of these incredibly silly decisions, it could have easily been legit kino if they didn't keep sprinkling these excessively silly things all over the place. It's really frustrating

powerful AND brave

And the shoulder brush. And everything about it.

You do realise that Luke did still have his green one, right? He just took the blue one in the projection

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>green lightsaber makes you stand out
>green lightsaber is even good in the first place
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I'm pretty sure he went into there to try and read Ben's mind to see how far gone he was, but said that he was far more corrupted than he'd even imagined. In a moment of instinct he drew his sabre, then went to put it away when Ben woke up, hence the scene we have.
The man's a Jedi, why wouldn't he carry his sacred weapon with him?

He did the exact same to Vader. He had an impulse to kill him that he didn't end up actually acting on. Except he actually stroke Vader down a bazillion times, whereas that's not even true with Kylo Ren. Get fucked, pleb.

>He just took the blue one in the projection

But why? In Kylo and Luke's flashback (where Hammil's hair is dyed like his projection at the end) he is using the green saber.

>He fulfills Obi Wan's example

That's exactly the problem shithead.

>he still went into his hut with the intention of killing him
Literally not true.
Once again, my friends, note how people arguing that Luke was "ruined" are all willfully wrong about the shit they say or completely misinformed on the movie. It's not a coincidence.

>He did the exact same to Vader
when?

Wait, the man can astral project himself across a galaxy to an unknown location, but can't read Kylo's mind from his own bunk?

Bull shit excuse.

>Literally not true.

Luke said himself he did, but then felt shame and decided not to. Then Kylo woke up.

Prove me wrong faggot.

Fuck you, the shoulder brush was cool.

it was corny crap. pleb bait

He didn't go there with the intention of killing him, you stupid faggot. Watch the movie again, brainlet.

Are you 12? The shoulder brush was fucking dumb. A literal forced "OHHH WHAT A BADASS" moment. Except he wasn't doing anything cool, just brushing dirt that couldn't have possibly fallen on him, as he was a projection, off of his shoulder.

How was that even remotely "cool"?

As far as I'm aware, no Jedi is omnipotent and able to read minds from a distance. They always have to be close to them to even get a 'feel' of their emotions, never mind in-depth reading into their experiences.

As for astral projection, that's a wholly different use of the force, like saying to a long distance runner "Wow, you can run 27 miles in a few short hours, but you can't kick a football into a net from the half-way line?". Luke has trained to be a Jedi master of spirit and monk-like coolheadedness, I don't think reading minds was something he did regularly, or even without good reason.

He was taunting Kylo Ren to distract him, you dumbass. And it was cool. He just seemingly survived a million lasers shot at him with no damage whatsoever. What do you mean, it wasn't cool? You faggots don't know shit.

It drew Kylo out to fight him, to anger him. A taunt. A common tactic used to draw someone from a position of safety and comfort to one of weakness.

Then why did he feel shame?

>Watch the movie again, goy.
You are a faggot shill.