Luke Skywalker thread

So why did you think of him?

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He was a whiny, quippy baby the entire movie and his death was fucking pathetic.

yeah but why did you think of his new theme

he likes the titty milk. also disney must be kicking themselves for killing him off in the story now that carrie fisher is dead irl. i almost feel bad for the sobs who have to write the next movie, but i felt the same way after the absolutely loathsome force awakens.

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I love Mark Hamill as a person and he was genuinely likeable in the movie until we find out he tried to murder a child

he contemplatedp killing a kid

They should have edited this movie to swap Leia and Holdo at the end then have Luke live and show him raise his x-wing out of the water at the end.

With what we've got I think the best solution is to have a time skip, say not much happened since the FO and resistance were both kinda rebuilding, say that during this time Leia died and open the movie on her funeral. Old fans are obviously pissed about Luke but they can give him lots of screen time as a ghost still, Yoda just showed us force ghosts can do more than we thought they could.

but he realised this isn't the way
this adds some depth to Luke
he's balancing on edge of dark side
his death was pretty fine... but too early, should be in ep9.
>See You around, kid

Like father like son, pottery

Dont you think is a little bit weird how he feels super guilty about Ben to the point that he becomes a hermit but later he starts mocking him just to piss him off

is just so weird, borderline autistic behavior.

>could have fallen to kylo like obiwan did to vader and haunted him as a force ghost
>instead dies of a compacted colon on titty milk island

wait wat

as much as movie had flaws and hated a lot of things in it (casino subplot, leia superman fly, shitton of crappy things, chewbacca given no role at all, another shitton of crap, peo 'call mama' joke) i really liked Luke plot. She shown him depressed, giving no fuck, but in the end sacrificing himself for something as small as giving rebels time.

>giving the 12 remaining Resistance fighters time to escape so they can blend into the galaxy and live unassuming lives since the resistance is utterly done for and can no longer fight a galactic war, let alone a planetary one.

FTFY

Fuck TLJ
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Nobody responding to the call to join the Rebel Alliance in its hour of need is the perfect metaphor for the reception of this film

>until we find out he tried to murder a child
I don't know if the anons who keep repeating this lie didn't watch the movie, are genuinely retarded, or are willfully misrepresenting what actually happened. It's probably a mixture of the three.

>but uh he changed his mind at the last second but Kylo got the wrong idea anyway and ran off

So it's even worse then and comes across as a bunch of misunderstandings from a dumb anime. Bravo Rian, really jogging my neurons with all of your SUBVERSIVE film-making, I clapped until my hands fell off and then bought 5 more tickets to watch TLJ over and over again to appreciate all of the kino subversiveness XD

The real Luke Skywalker from the OT would have never thought for a second to kill his own nephew, much less a nephew that was innocent at the time.

>added depth
>dancing on the edge of the dark side
That was his arc in ESB and RotJ already, they deleted his OT character development from the archive memory so they could shoehorn him into a Yoda role.

kek

He does the equivalent of pointing a gun and cocking the hammer to his sleeping nephew, it's jarringly out-of-character

he would.
look how he refuses to fight Vader... but strikes with full anger when Emperor tells about sister.

>teleports behind you
>psh, see you around, kid

There's a big difference between an evil father that murdered millions of people and a sleeping nephew that didn't do anything wrong.

He overcome that dark-side anger by sparing him and redeems Vader at the end. You know, character development. You can't just go back and make him do the opposite thing of what he did in the previous movies (to someone that was completely innocent), but I guess Rian did just so he could be known as the man that killed Luke Skywalker, in more ways than one.

It's called a MOMENT OF WEAKNESS. Luke isn't some perfect godlike saint.

>The Dark Side is rising again.
>So much pain and death happened the last time this happened
>It would be so easy to end it all here...
>No that's not right.
>Kylo catches him

I'm convinced people have autism.

He's not my Luke. Disney turned him into a fucking coward and a failure who achieved nothing except being responsible for the deaths of billions and running away and hiding like a bitch.

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this, he wasn't sure to do so, but given past events, he would do everything to avoid the return of dark side
movie was shitty, really shitty, but Luke arc and behaviour isn't bad part here

>Old man witnessing the constant cycle of war and losing people to the Dark Side.
>Not being cynical and exhausted

Luke Skywalker tried to save his father after all the despicable shit he did because he believed there may be a glimmer of good left in him. Luke Skywalker would not fuck around hiding on an island while he knew that Leia, Han, and Chewie alongside all the innocent lives and the rebels were in danger, even Mark Hamill agrees. I don't even give much of a shit about Star Wars, only 4 and 5 were good but this is just genuinely fucking insulting, like it feels almost spiteful.

>nothing personal, kiddo.
I like the fact he is like those guys from my chinese cartoons now

>uh fuck established character traits and development that was established 40 years ago, just call it a moment of weakness lol

If Luke flew into a dark-side rage and killed Leia in a psychopathic rage, would you call that a moment of weakness too?

Here's a thought experiment for you: if I told you 3 years ago that Luke would walk into his nephew's room, ignite his lightsaber, and seriously think about killing him in his sleep because he had a bad dream about him, would you believe me for a second?

I fundamentally disagree with everything about Luke's portrayal in TLJ

40 years is a really long time for someone to grow and change. I wasn't aware that people remain exactly the same all their lives.

> if I told you 3 years ago that Luke would walk into his nephew's room, ignite his lightsaber, and seriously think about killing him in his sleep because he had a bad dream about him, would you believe me for a second?

I would have to consider the context for his actions. And Luke didn't have a bad dream he felt the dark side in Ben.

m-mark?

I liked it. Anyone who didn't like it is most likely a wee lil baby. And that's OK, actually. This is a movie for kids. For a movie being derided for having a marvel-tier quality, it sure didn't play by those rules.

>would you believe me for a second?
yes, Luke was balancing on the edge of dark side. to be quite honest, i expected him to turn evil, judging by TLJ trailers

is lukelusting still a thing here? those were good threads.

so you're telling me that the same Luke that didn't give up on his father, who already turned to the dark side before he was born and killed millions, would briefly give up on his teenage nephew and think about trying to kill him (BEFORE he completely turned to the dark side), and furthermore not do anything to try and fix the situation after he already fucked up.

Don't make me laugh, we both know what your answer would've been 3 years ago.

Nope, that wasn't my question. I said if I asked you 3 years ago, before we knew anything about the new movies, only going by the OT.

If you honestly thought he was going to turn evil then you are a fool considering he already went through that arc in RotJ.

I’m incredibly surprised they didn’t go back and change the ending to leave Luke alive. It just affirms my belief that they are actively trying to kill of the relation to the PT and OT and that Leia was planned to die in IX

This movie made me cry, and changed my rating of the movie from a 7 to a 5.

before nu-wars, i would expect him to go gray jedi
he had very little training, by old master yoda
maybe couldnt know light and dark side well enough, but knowing what is moral and what isn't would make him balance on edge.
honestly, Jabba sailboat masscacre made me think he gonna turn evil, when watched RotJ for the 1st time. also minor thing but him wearing these black clothes and so, typical 'dark/evil/badguy clitche.

Too all you fucks shitting on luke for liking milkies.

He grew up without a mother. It's a manifestation of his abandonment issues you heartless fucks.

>Force ghost means dead meme

Is that why Yoda keeps showing up in every movie?

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This. It’s not Luke drawing the lights are on Ben that I hate. It dislike it, but I can understand. But Luke then running away to hide rather than bring his nephew back to the light. When the dark side threatened to consume Leia, he went berserk. Despite being consumed in the dark side, Luke was determined (and successful) in redeeming Vader. When Luke touched the dark side, he rejected it. But his nephew turns? Nah fuck that I’m gonna go drink milk.

>Gray jedi

Literally atheism euphoric fedora tier.
Anyone who expected this kys now.

Fair enough, he actually dabbled with that for awhile in the EU before realizing how stupid gray jedi are as an ideology for the entire order.

>luke would not fuck around hiding on an island

Yoda did the same thing and hid in a cave while the world turned to shit under his watch.

lol

This is like Kilo every night since the event. No wonder he went fucking nuts and joined smoke.

I dont get why people are so surprised their PERFECT HERO has fallen from grace, you can guess he's not in a good state of mind from the ending to TFA, if he was ok his facial expression would've been way different

I like the direction they took the character in, I've come to terms that we weren't getting Luke being the perfect hero in movies, although maybe they've should've done it in VII after ROTJ and then in the next movie he falls from grace

>luke would not fuck around hiding on an island

Obi-wan would not fuck around hiding on a desert planet.

Because the empire would push his shit in before he could ever do anything, and the world was already turned to shit. Meanwhile Luke ran when the First Order was infantile in comparison to the Republic.

Luke agrees that this isn't something Luke would do. It's why he is instantly ashamed at having ignited his saber. He goes into fucking exile for doing it even.

for

>every nerds self insert hero becomes a cynical recluse

must have hit too close to hime

Stop trying to defend plotholes that exist in previous star shit and complain about plot holes in existing star shit.

Fucking elite trained and technologically advanced storm troopers lost to fucking furry midget cavemen.

Just enjoy this shit and turn off your brain. All of it is absolute horseshit.

I like how they handled Luke in this.

Him being space jesus would have been boring.

>Yoda hides out in a swamp
>obi-wan hides out in a desert
>Luke hides out on an island

What did they mean by this?

>Obi-wan
>couldnt save Anakin
>hides in Tattooine for years
>becomes one with the force when he fulfills his purpose/passed on what he knew

>Yoda
>couldnt beat Sheev
>hides in swamp for years
>dies of old age just as he passed on part of what he knew

>Luke
>couldn't save Ben, made huge mistake
>hides in uncharted planet with jedi books
>dies when he fulfills his purpose

dont see what the big deal is, I can't imagine how mad fans would be had Luke gone to the dark side

>would push his shit in
>greatest jedi master of them all being afraid of mong storm troopers he can mind trick anytime
>meanwhile obi-wan hides in plain sight on desert controlled by empire without a care in the world

Nah, you aren't weaseling your way out of this one.

Do you guys think he ever pole-vaults over to those space cows and fucks them?

The problem is that the children grew up and this shit began clicking in their heads how terrible the plot actually is. Except they forgive all the dogshit in previous movies because they haven't rewatched that shit with a critical eye and realize how goofy and pathetic their fandom is.

>R2-D2 knows that Anakin is Darth Vader but doesn't let Luke know because ???

I'd have believed you just fine. Especially considering Kylo had already been built up to be stronger than Vader, that the Force was literally reawakening in massive spades among a handful rather than equalizing throughout the galaxy.

Its not hard to understand. Even fucking Obi-Wan was willing to leave the Jedi Order for a woman. They aren't perfect, most of them always have bad thoughts or do bad things. That's why the dogmatic views of the Jedi and Sith are retarded, its always been this way. Luke is no exception to this rule. Hell even despite that, in his Exile he is more than willing to still realize there is conflict in Kylo until the very end, after Snoke is dead and Rey has failed, that Kylo has went further than Vader ever had into the corruption. Hell in his own way Kylo accomplished more than Vader ever did, he actually rules now unlike Vader who was always under a boot heel.

R2 and 3PO had their memories wiped at the end of ROTS you idiot Jew machine

>In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.

>wiped

Yeah, and obi-wan pretending like he'd never seen the droids before in his life is even better.

Obi-wan hid on a planet he knew Vader would never want to visit again. Also if you want to argue plotholes.

If Obi-Wan and Anakin had already been built up to be great Jedi Masters during the Clone Wars in the OT, why does nobody recognize the Skywalker name?

No, its just because I actually pay attention to the material that has been released instead of looking for a reason to complain about a series that has always been about space wizards with laser swords fighting a generic good vs. evil battle.

>he knew
Stop slobbering on Lucas' hack writing. It's all fucking terrible.

>inb4 I don't like sand.

only 3PO

>material
>children's space fantasy gobbledegook designed to sell action figures

Please stop.

Both hid because the Emperor had previously defeated them, and had immense resources to threaten. Furthermore, Obi-wan hid purely to protect and watch over Luke. And when the call came to strike back against the Empire, Obi-wan took it. It’s different from the situation in the ST

So basically R2-D2 is the illuminati

Obi Wan and Yoda still believed in the force and had hope for the future. Obi Wan had a job actually watching Luke. Luke becomes an angry homeless man who has no faith in the force or the Jedi and abandons all of his friends where he could have made a huge difference.

Only 3PO did.
R2's memory was left intact

They didn't want anybody to know Vader was Anakin. Fuck do you guys forget that the original trilogy Luke has to bitch at Obi-Wan for not telling him the truth in the first place?

>Hide
>don't wage gorilla warfare while a rebellion forms
>don't lead rebellion despite being the literal cause of the problem in the first place

Nah children, this shit is unfixable with any amount of retcon and headcanon.

both Kenobi and Yoda got proper Jedi training, Luke didn't and it seems he got the books after the incident

Not thinking that the second Sheev hears about Yoda being back that he wouldnt send vader and all of the inquisitors to immediately murder him

>They didn't want anybody to know

Tip top kek and all the dialogue with the emperor and vader pretending not to know that luke skywalker was was anakin's son?

>being this fucking retarded and not realizing that this shit was never very well thought out in the first place.

lol only way to petition change in hollywood is to hit the kikes in the wallet and stop paying to see this garbage

>muh they would have been killed argument
>meanwhile they allow children to die and cleanup their mess for them

Mite b cool

Luke became a full fledged Jedi after he confronted Vader in ROTJ. He was enough of a believer to restart the entire jedi order with his temple.

You mean them pretending to not know in the movie where Vader literally says "I am your father" and is literally named "Darth Father"? Its called trying to hide a plot twist, even if the reasoning and the scene is a bit silly.

>Hide
Because he was protecting a young and vulnerable. When he thought Luke was ready to be trained he Obi-wan jumped at the chance to rejoin the fight. It’s competely different from Luke in ST, who is simply wallowing in despair.

The entire reason for the trilogy is that Luke was sneaking into his nephews bedroom at night with his light-saber out thinking about molesting him.

He's constantly put into humiliating gag situations. He was gonna let the rebellion and his sister die.

His epic "redemption" is him distracting Kylo Ren for five minutes and saving ten people.

For example , Admiral Tumblr saved all the rebels and took out an entire fleet.
And Rey trashed Kylo Ren easily just two days ago in universe timeline

Obi-Wan and Yoda had the empire scouring the galaxy to hunt down and kill the remaining jedi ,going into hiding made the most sense to stay alive. ObiWan was watching over Luke anyway, it's not like he was doing nothing. What excuse did Luke have to not go after Snoke or atleast try to track down and reason with Kylo?

>force future sight
>Luke has literally used this to save his friends on Cloud City before so he knows it's not complete bullshit
>"meh, I'm sure this time it's nothing."

>pretending to not know
The emperor and vader speak to each other like luke skywalker is some sort of stranger to them.

>Protecting
>His presence on tattooine would fucking endanger Luke Skywalker even fucking more.
>Actually thinking that Vader/emperor wouldn't look on tatooine for relations of the skywalker family because they're 'mongs'

Luke Skywalker and Han Solo both died as losers and failures. Awesome.

trips of truth, and this is why the manchildren are upset.

Because Palpatine referred to Anakin as someone else to psychologically manipulate Vader into abandoning his past as Anakin Skywalker. Know the lore, secondary.

That "Awesome." was sarcastic in case anyone didn't catch it.

>know the lore
Your retarded headcanon is showing.
Nobody is this fucking stupidly brainwashed right?

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>who is this new enemy that we speak of like we don't know the identity of?

>retarded mongoloids still defend this.

The Emperor and Vader refer to Anakin in the third person because they are actively trying to divorce Vader from his history as a noble Jedi. That, and to preserve a plot twist.

Obi-wan isn’t going to draw attention. You can’t sense a presence unless your close, Vader doesn’t feel a thing until they are both on the Death Star. Tatooine is such a backwater that imperials have almost nothing to do with it. And as noted above, Vader is actively avoiding association with his noble alter ego. And remember the bit where he believes his wife and children are dead?

I empathise with Mark Hamill
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Yes the same movie where he again says "I am your father." Hell if you listen to the scene, you can even notice Vader is reeling back slightly.

"Search your feelings." Why say that if there is no relation?
"He's just a boy." Vader, VADER is trying to get out of killing someone.

>actively trying to divorce

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything Lucas wants to shit down your throat.