"THAT'S THE GREAT GENERAL I HEARD ABOUT? SHE'S NOT WHAT I EXPECTED AT ALL!"

But why?

In a galaxy with millions of different species that come in all shapes and sizes, what was Poe expecting generals to look like??

Considering the Rebellion seems to consist of only like 200 people, and Poe is an officer, how has he never met her or seen her before?

Surely they would've attended the same meetings or something

Like a man and not some 80 year old tumblrina feminazi

>that scene with holdo breastfeeding on the bridge
I mean I'm all for women's liberation as the next guy, but was this scene really necessary in a star wars film?

ENOUGH FUCKING STAR WARS THREADS HOLY FUCK

He certainly wasn't expecting an old washed up tumblr war veteran who proceeded to blunder and kill all but a tiny handful of resistance personnel before ending herself in a kamikaze attack which shouldn't have even been possible as far as established lore is concerned.

“And remember Leia, fuck Drumpf and fuck white people”

We only get a new stars wars film once every 6 months nowadays. Let us meme.

Why did Rey doll herself up before meeting with Kylo?

Star Wars have really really low quality means of taking photos and communicating. You'd think he could just use some kind of resource to look up a file photo, but in an effort to look sci fi, everything only exists as blue holograms.

proofs?

She clearly put on makeup before meeting with Kylo. Did you not see the film?

>Considering the Rebellion seems to consist of only like 200 people
You what? Also do you think every officer gets to attend the meetings of the general staff?

>great general
>has a great plan but refuses to share it, which leads to a mutiny in which she still refused to tell anyone she had a plan
No wonder the Resistance loses.

Why, when there's seemingly 400 people in the Resistance, was Poe only vaguely familiar with her?

If that bitch wanted some soldiers who would have followed orders she should have joined the First ORDER and not the fucking REBELS.
Poe incorporates every positive aspect of the Repels and should have been their leader, not some old cokehead who's only reason for being relevant is her birthright.

Furthermore, why's he surprised it's an old lady when the commander she's replacing is... an old lady

They even gave her the colored hair.
I'm surprised they didn't have a candid scene of her wearing problem glasses in he quarters.

What if the resistance loses in episode 9.

no lie i would cum all over her purple hair.

So why did the racist Disney slave writers kill off the only non-human admiral (based Ackbar) and introduced yet another human admiral just to kill her off?

You know why

(she wants that D-ark Side)

>Did you not see the film?

No? Why would I, it's shite.

Conceivably it is possible it's just that safety protocols would prevent you from engaging the hyperdrive with an object registered on your immediate trajectory on your sensors. If she disengaged the safeties she could pull it off.

But that begs the question if this was always known to be possible why are kamikaze dummy vessels with disengaged safeties and remote control not more common if it is so devastating. And then why not just slap a hyperdrive on a solid mass of anything with some simple engines for positioning that is remote or AI controlled and have several light speed torpedoes to assault Capital ships with.

I would be able to take her more seriously as a leader if she just wasn't wearing that slinky gown.

the whole holdo vs. poe thing was about men vs women
fuckin' disney doesn't even try to hide it
"...not what I expected at all" implies he was expecting a man, since for stupid white males, only men can be generals
all about the stupid "hotheaded flyboy" conversation
and he even tries to mansplaining her about something (can't remember what exactly)

I dont mind the discussion about sexism but you dont have to put it in a star wars movie
just feels out of palce

>just feels out of palce
Oh buck off. Princess Leia against the all-male empire was always like that. We had a female general in the ot. You just want to complain for complaining's sake

Well she knows the unheard trick of hyperspace your ship through other ships, which renders all the previous space battles in Star Wars pointless and retarded. Surely no one was expecting that!

>Poe thinks only men can be generals
>this ignores the fact he's been working personally with Leia for however many years
>BRAVO GEORGE

>when you desperately need your next hit

It's a silly gesture really, either Star Wars is a more progressive universe than our own, or its not. Having him be surprised by her just seems like the movie pandering to its audience's smugness.

Wow, Kylo Ren looks like THAT?

I just don't understand why they made such a big deal with this woman who had maybe 30 minutes of screentime total and then we're supposed to feel sad about her noble sacrifice.
I mean sure, if they introduced her in episode 7 or Rogue One, then it'd make sense.

he found himself strangely attracted to her

Because she's a strong independent woman with purple hair who puts the confident male protagonist in his place by not telling him her plan which leads to the loss of several transports full of people.
Ya know, you just gotta feel for well written characters like that.

It's funny of you to imply that in a galaxy far far away she doesn't look particularly unnatural, after Sup Forums went on a constant tirade of "lol tumbrlina sjw feminazi xdd" over purple hair

big guy

You're not supposed to feel sad - rather, she's supposed to redeem herself in that moment.
Up until that point, up until she remained with her ship, you were supposed to doubt where her allegiances really lie. Her staying with the ship and then sacrificing herself to save the Resistance was meant to clear these doubts.

Leia never had colored hair and called solo a hot headed flyboy
all their banter was because of sexual tension and not about some weird female over male powerfantasy
I dont care about a strong female role or even a strong female lead it's how they pressent it
One should think sexism wouldn't be a problem in a futuristic society with aliens and shit

And I think you are a contrary asshole and just want to defend it, because the majority doesnt like that stupid movie for good reasons

>Leia never [...] called solo a hot headed flyboy
You sure?

Now THAT would really subvert my expectations.

>Conceivably it is possible it's just that safety protocols would prevent you from engaging the hyperdrive with an object registered on your immediate trajectory on your sensors. If she disengaged the safeties she could pull it off.
Hyperdrive doesn't make you go fast, it makes your distance shorter.

Well she also clearly put on 25 lbs between takes and we're supposed to ignore that.

>that scene where Laura Dern broke character, looked directly into the camera, said "Fuck Drumpf and fuck white people" then continued the scene like that didn't just happen

Why didn't they edit that out?

In a group of 200 people you'd have thought he'd be aware of what they look like, even if it was just someone pointing out that they have an old pink haired dyke as their general. If Poe found it so noteworthy, why has no one else bothered mentioning it? Is it just because Poe is a relatively white male and everyone else is more progressive?

>Leia never had colored hair and called solo a hot headed flyboy
No she called him much worse
>all their banter was because of sexual tension
Yeah later. In the first 1 and a half movies she talked down to every man around here including Vader and Tarkin like no female character would dare today.

But of course you don't care about reality. You just want to cry about muh feminism and at the same time defend your shitty nerd movie. How could you not expect to look like a dishonest moron then?

>In a group of 200 people
Which isn't true so there's that.

>Is it just because Poe is a relatively white male and everyone else is more progressive?
Are you insane?

>In a galaxy with millions of different species that come in all shapes and sizes, what was Poe expecting generals to look like??
and yet all of them have human characteristics. she does not carry herself like a leader, like a soldier. she does not speak like she has an idea about strategy or other necessary things. also her appearence makes her look unaware of the seriousness of the situation.

thats why.

Star Wars is dead thanks to Disney's SJW pandering, bury it. Consider this mercy.

Working in a 300 person battalion for a decade...

Captain Poe Dameron is unaware of the Resistance's new admiral

He's also surprised that the new commander is a human when an admiral in the system is a fucking Mon Calamari.

Horrendous writing.

talking down to them because they are enemies not because they are males who never could understand her precious plan

>absolutely sweetie

>Yeah later. In the first 1 and a half movies she talked down to every man around here including Vader and Tarkin like no female character would dare today.
Gosh, she was disrespectful to Vader and Tarkin? Shocker.

She doesn't show a shred of contempt or arrogance towards anyone bar her enemies, Luke initially with his bungled rescue attempt and Han the scoundrel.

Leia being a stuck up princess is nothing akin to what the pink haired tumblerite is.

>talking down to them because they are enemies
You know like Luke. It's fine little soldier. If it helps you feel like a big boy yes. All feminist characters in movies you like were well written and anti-feminist mysoginists who lusted after every male including you in the audience. And everything that came out after you became a bitter shut-in with no prospect of dating is feminist propaganda and the very reason you are virgin in the first place

He's the highest ranking fighter pilot. That automatically gets him a seat at the big boys table.

>She doesn't show a shred of contempt or arrogance towards anyone bar her enemies
>literally lists every male main character immediately afterwards. Must be awkward to argue something you know to be false just cause your fragile ego depends on it

Que

Yeah her waiting that long cannot be explained as shock as she already wants to kill herself so why not do it straight away

Holy fuck I can't believe this is a real article.

No. Because one is a pilot and one a general. You know skill and rank are not synonyms? That generals have special edu to become officiers let alone generals? Do you think an olympic shooter could just become a 4 star general marine?

And him getting a seat at the big boys table is where he met her.
>but why was the new character introduced in the scene where she was also introduced to the audience
Is that a real question? I mean... What?

Read what I wrote again.

Welcome to the awakening user, Sup Forums awaits you.

Fair enough. But high ranking fighter pilot still does not equal high rank in comparison to the generality.
And if it would my point about on screen introduction still stands

Are you retarded?

She shows nothing but respect for Luke after he joins the rebels, she shows the utmost respect towards every rebel.

Within the rebellion she has respect for those around her, the only person she shows no respect for is a fucking criminal and the empire she's fighting.

Otherwise she abides by a pretty fucking ancient cliche of the stuck up and arrogant princess.

That is NOT what the pink haired general is doing when she's contemptuous towards people within the rebellion.

How can you not understand this? Are you a woman?

Poe doesn't respect women because he is a white male

Because one is a princess and one is a general scolding an uppity lower rank.
>How can you not understand this? Are you a woman?
I understand perfectly muffin top. It's that what you are saying is dumb and you only say it BECAUSE she's a woman.

>Jonathan Dean is Senior Writer at Sunday Times Culture
>Well, it's time to man the hashtags again, boys!

Fucking hell the absolute STATE of western journalism.

What he's saying probably fits. Back in the original movies Luke and the rest of the pilots are all around during the briefing about the Death Star attack and talking with the higher ups, and Luke had been in the rebellion for a whole 5 minutes.

Things have obviously changed since then, but they still seem a pretty ragtag band, the idea Poe has never encountered or heard of the general before seems unlikely.

He's just a mouthpiece to comment on the director's atypical character.

he's a spic

>the pilots are all around during the briefing about the Death Star attack
Yeah because it's a mission for the pilots. You think Red 26 was around when the general staff discussed the grand plan for fleet actions? With zero precautions? Come on now.

I assure you if there was a pink haired autistic guy who specialized in horoscopes I would give you the exact same fucking spiel, but don't let facts get in the way of your oppression.

I'll give you a clue, Mon Mothma and Leia were fine and no one raised an eyebrow at them being in charge, there's a good reason for it - and it's not that everyone thought they were men.

>white

like someone who wasn't a blatant self-insert and actually dressed like they belonged there
>everyone in the notRebellion in military garb
>only exceptions are leia (who is fucking leia) and finn (wearing the leather jacket)
>in walks vice admiral literally who in a fucking dress with a tiara, earrings, and purple hair
>"ummm sweetie I don't have to tell you what my plan is, mmkay?"

>she’s THAT admiral from THAT battle
>you mean THAT battle?

There were plenty of non-pilots too, hell, even Han was hanging around listening and he wasn't taking part or part of the rebelion, he fucked off afterwards. There's also a bunch of ground troops around.

Never looked like the rebels were that organized.

>your oppression
kekekek. You really thought that sounded tough huh?
>Not outraged at a female general? Fucking feminist

>there's a good reason for it
I already stated that reason. If you want to complain about higher ups in film scolding arrogant lower ranks you have a long list. Incidentally you picked the case with the female general

But then again Admiral Ackbar and leaders we see in 5 or 6 weren't. Certainly a hierarchy beyond this little group on Yavin exists and it would be silly to think the rebellion allowed every potential imperial spy to attend higher rank meetings and see fleet movings

I'm assuming the evacuation at the start of the film is the reason why there's multiple generals amongst a ships crew of several hundred when normally you'd have at most one depending on the size of the fleet. At the start of the film Poe is identified as a commander before being demoted to captain making him the section head for the 'flying' side of operations and of equal importance to the ship chief engineer.

I'm not trying to sound tough, it's just the only reason I can think that you'd sit here constantly inventing strawmen to fend off to misrepresent peoples point. If you think my problem with her is that she's a woman you're a fucking idiot when there's two perfectly adequately executed female leaders in the original series and this characters gender is one of the least offensive parts about the design, but instead of admitting that it's easier to pretend it's just because she's a woman and fill every one of your posts with nonsensical and incoherent greentext.

> If you want to complain about higher ups in film scolding arrogant lower ranks you have a long list
Case in point when it comes to strawmen, you've once again missed the point entirely if you think that's the issue.

I give up though, you're evidently incapable of conversing with anyone but yourself, but I'm sure you can keep the argument going a little longer without me, you're adept at putting easily defeatable stances into your opponents mouths.

>If you want to complain about higher ups in film scolding arrogant lower ranks you have a long list. Incidentally you picked the case with the female general
B-but she's a woman with purple hair and I don't like it when women with purple hair scold men, cause when they do, it means that it's feminist propaganda.
Who cares about the actual circumstances in the story? I'm just trying to reaffirm my out of universe political convictions!

Trayvon Martin was a white supremacist trigger happy gated community contractor

>when there's two perfectly adequately executed female leaders
Yes and Leia is much worse than her. We went over this part like an hour ago.

>Sup Forums humor

But it is. You guys make that point clear with "sjw tumblrina feminazi calls a man out on mansplaining xdd" even through that wasn't even close to how the movie presented it at the time - in fact, at the time, the viewers were actually supposed to doubt whether the Admiral was even actually on their side.

You guys would call Star War's Leia and Alien's Ripley on being "feminist propaganda" if Sup Forums/pol/social media existed at the time. The only reason they weren't called that is because it didn't.

>this fucking guy whining about the "super rich" and how they somehow wrote the film predicting shit about Trump

Did he forget that Star Wars is owned by Disney?

resistance loses, kyle low gets over his autism and mans up, galaxy is lead by a strong, yet fair dark side user who can rise above the corruptive influences
my god, it'd ruin everything. i want it so.

Are you retarded? This board loves actual well developed characters, regardless of gender. Xena is case in point. If the character is well written and acted then Sup Forums has no issue. Look at Luv from BR:2049. Sup Forums in general liked her despite the fact that feminists claimed her as a female power symbol.

wtf there's a pink hair strong womyn general

Honestly, I really wished Rey had joined him.

There is no way out of this mess anymore. Whatever they do, it's useless in front of attaching a drive into a huge chunk of metal and hurling it on your enemies through hyperdrive. Heck, the Death Star should have been a hyperdrive catapult if this could be pulled off so easy. Also the fleet should have been destroyed using the other ships before they ran out of fuel. Also if Snoke's ship can detect a small cruiser flying in front of itself it can also detect a fucking huge salt planet just near the fucking ship.

Lack of physics has never been a problem, we know Star Wars has shitty space renditions (didn't even bother me that the girl was awake and able for several minutes inside that open bomber), but this was just shitty directing, and that is unforgivable. It's almost as if Johnson had no idea what to do with any of JJ's follow-ups and decided to put them all under a rug that is full of his own shit smeared on top of it. And some smelly ((( shit))) at it also.

>what was Poe expecting generals to look like
probably not like tumblrinas

She was obviously written in place for Admiral Akabar.

>need super leader to lead the last stand against the evil empire
>use being that has never fired a blaster in xer life

Makes a whole lotta sense.

t. retarded faggot that doesnt know anything about what rank or position means in military

I solely point out the weak character she is and the poor attempt to suck up to the 2017 audience
but now that I see your post im pretty sure you have bigger problems then this
good luck user

Almost as good a trick as hyper jumping through a shield!

She was working on getting bigger boobies to appeal to the Skywalker family milkies fetish.

Yeah based on my own experience in the military it would be very strange for anyone in a unit the size of 200 men to not know what one of the highest ranking officers looks like.

>my own experience in the military
;)
Call of Duty is not military experience honey muffin.

>unit the size of 200 men
Still not true and still a rebellion that has to keep low profile.
As for why this important character gets an onscreen introduction there really is nothing to add anymore. You know you're wrong, I know you know you're wrong. And we both know you'd never admit that because how else could you stroke your ego.

even without bringing muh military experience into it, imagine yourself in a school with 200 students and not knowing what the principal looks like

in poe's case it's even worse since he's an officer himself so he would be more like one of the teachers than the students