>Lucas never made a "Star Wars" movie by sitting down and thinking, "What do the fans want to see?" And I knew if I wrote wondering what the fans would want, as tempting as that is, it wouldn't work, because people would still be shouting at me, "F--- you, you ruined 'Star Wars,'" and I would make a bad movie. And ultimately, that's the one thing nobody wants. And let me just add that 80-90% of the reaction I've gotten from Twitter has been really lovely. There's been a lot of joy and love from fans. When I talk about the negative stuff, that's not the full picture of the fans at all.
This is what a true auteur looks like. Sup Forums will never recover from this.
Adam Taylor
nobody cares what Sup Forums thinks.
Leo Peterson
thank mr rian
Joshua Adams
>Lucas never made a "Star Wars" movie by sitting down and thinking, "What do the fans want to see?"
No he sat down and thought "What will sell the most toys"
Lucas Gray
sounds more like a criticism of JJ desu
Isaiah Brooks
He took Star Wars in to a bold direction and it paid off big time. True fans love this movie, while neckbeards won't because they want the same old shit.
Aaron Wright
Right because this isnt for fans. You know, the majority of peple who pay to see these things.
Joshua Lewis
And it worked.
Lincoln Campbell
BASED
Sebastian Perez
>80-90% of the reaction I've gotten from Twitter has been really lovely
This is that I've seen as well. Moviegoers loved The Last Jedi. HUGE disconnect between them and the so-called """fanboys""".
Jason Long
Smarmy self-satisfied tool. All the meta commentary in the film urging for originality (Let the past die, time for the jedi to end, Kylo's speech to Rey) and he still lifts major plot points and climaxes from ESB and ROTJ (with none of the satisfying writing *towards* these moments).
Jaxson Gray
Please, tell more more of this "bold direction", because I have no fucking clue what it is.
Justin Diaz
>This movie was made for the critics not the fans
Oh it shows
Gabriel Ortiz
Why would you need to wonder what the fans would want.
It's a fucking trilogy. This is the middle movie. There was a story already.
Wasn't there?
Fuck.
Samuel Reed
Go watch the movie. I had to see it twice to truly get it.
Juan Jackson
>He took Star Wars in to a bold direction
Kind of like a guy driving off a cliff took his car into a bold direction.
Caleb Fisher
>s major plot points and climaxes from ESB and ROTJ
I forgot when those movies were entirely a low-speed chase scene that lasts the entire run time.
Jackson Thompson
Kill shills, kill shills, kill shills.
Hunter Ramirez
All those loose ends never getting answers, and the blatant sjw propaganda. Pure genius.
I want new things, but this was a shit story tbqh.
William Flores
I never thought anyone could be more consistently smug-looking than JJ Abrams
Elijah Green
there's a huge disconnect between twitter fags and everyone else I'm seeing a lot of negative reactions to it on facebook
Brayden Rodriguez
No, Lucas sat down and wrote a treatment for all three prequels before he started making them. Something current Disney couldn't comprehend.
Lincoln Parker
>And let me just add that 80-90% of the reaction I've gotten from Twitter has been really lovely. Oh, well, I guess that's the end of that then. The movie is great, guys, people on Twitter said so!
Eli Scott
Yeah. That's exactly what Paul Fieg said about Girlbusters too.
>>Well Twitter likes it so it must be gud. Look at all these supportive tweets I'm getting from girls that LOVE the new Ghostbusters. Guaranteed success.
Jaxson Lee
>i didn't consider what the fans would want That much was obvious, Rian.
Camden Moore
>He took Star Wars in to a bold direction I wish.
Asher Nguyen
List of "bold" directions:
>Casino sideplot >Slo-mo chase sideplot >New characters are non-characters >SuperLeia >Nihilist Child Murderer Luke: character assassination >Force hologram pulled off the screenwriter’s ass for the sole purpose of robbing Luke of a real, heroic death
>dropping bombs… in space >an x-wing can solo a dreadnought now >lo-fuel in spaceships >slo-mo chase (why don’t use hyperspace to move destructors a little ahead; why don’t send fighters) >Snoke reads minds but cannot sense the lightsaber moving or Kylo’s intentions >a whole plot reserved for an anti-mansplaining lesson >hyperspace suicide ships are a thing now >Kylo doesn’t recognize Luke/Anakin/his blue saber in Luke’s force hologram (he destroyed it 5 minutes before) >Rey masters the lightsaber in 5 minutes >Rey moving rocks >Finn’s suicide run+Rose’s love “arc”
>I can hear you can you hear me? >yo momma >Finn “naked & leaking” >*throws lightsaber >milking scene >”yeah Jakku’s pretty much nowhere” >”reach out” -> literally reaches out with her hand >ship is an iron visual gag: we spaceballs now >drunk alien puts coins in BB8 >opera singer alien >porg puppy eyes >porgs chew Millenium Falcon >porg falls against a window >rock falls on wheelbarrow
>A map to Luke's island that Luke himself put in R2 in case anyone needed him was the main McGuffin of TFA: who cares, Luke went to the island "to die" >Rey’s parents: who cares >Snoke: who cares
BRAVO JOHNSON.
Aaron Brown
56%
Owen Taylor
I did. It was an okay sci-fi space action movie. It was a shit Star Wars movie. I didn't like ti enough to watch it again.
Ryder Rogers
He didn't write it thinking about what the fans did or didn't want. He wrote it thinking about what Kathleen Kennedy told him to write about.
Brandon Wright
>Lucas never made a "Star Wars" movie by sitting down and thinking, "What do the fans want to see?"
he's right there. george was always a massive autist with his little spaceman war scenarios and shit
Jose Jackson
>Nihilist Child Murderer Luke: character assassination >Force hologram pulled off the screenwriter’s ass for the sole purpose of robbing Luke of a real, heroic death >”reach out” -> literally reaches out with her hand I was okay with these. I'm with you on the rest. The literally reaching out with her hand I actually liked. Felt like a bit of a Yoda moment when he whacked her hand with the stick for being such a retard.
Brody Hill
I didn't even watch the movie, but it's pretty terrible.
Anthony Flores
Why are new males so fucking stupid
>Hurrrrrrr durrrrr fuck the fans lel
Does this cuck not realize Disney will crucify him if the BO keeps dropping
He could have put Disney on blast and had the fans back him up now he has nothing
No fans No future in Disney No career
Goodbye cuck
Connor Cox
Maybe the movie in his theater was ghost directed by someone who isn't a soyboy and we missed it
Andrew Richardson
Lucas even made a company before the deal specifically to help Disney keep shit on track.
Mason Diaz
55% now, man.
Levi Price
because if somebody doesnt shower praise and adoration on TLJ, that means that person is a nasty bigoted troll who voted for trump and his or her opinion is immediately invalidated, regardless of the content of said opinion
Christian Rivera
George Lucas actually cared about world building and character connections. This fuck doesn't even care about the franchise.
Oliver Peterson
i can appreciate that way of thinking, but you shouldnt make a continuation of the OT if you arent going to stay true to them. in that case, star wars is not just a setting you can play around with but an already in progress story you should finish in the same style. at the least he should have made his own star wars trilogy set in the far past or future disconnected from lucases shit besides muh lasers and muh ayylmaos
Grayson Rivera
Just keep getting better.
Evan Brown
>The fans wanted a good movie. >I really showed them!
Kek. The damage control is insane. What a narrative to spin around. "I could have made a good movie, guys, but then the fans would have been happy. You see, I took the high road, I made a bad movie in purpose! Totally purposefully! Really I'm a genius!"
Bentley Turner
>He took Star Wars in to a bold direction and it paid off big time. True fans love this movie Hello Rian
Connor Gray
I take it all back. That is fucking bold.
Bold and fucking stupid.
Andrew Cooper
>I want new things, but this was a shit story tbqh. It's also not actually new. >Rey going to find Luke = Luke going to find Yoda >Finn and Rose going to Canto Bight = Han and Leia going to Bespin >Battle of Crait = Battle of Hoth (But this time it's at the end of the movie instead of the beginning, bravo Johnson!) >Better throw Obi Wan's death scene and the Emperor's throne room scene in there too, can't make it too obvious It's more subtle than the blatant copy of ANH that TFA was, but it's still basically just ESB if ESB sucked dick.
Angel Myers
>An Auteur is apparently someone who >Can't make something the fans want, because he knows people will shout at him >Bitches out and decides he'll make his own thing, except he's making it in an established setting, riding on it's name instead of making something original >Shits all over established characters and lore in his attempt to make god knows what >Still makes a shit film Did you mean autist? I've seen auteur's work before, the word tends to be applied to people who make distinctly unique things, not fucking schlock that's barely distinguishable from a nu-Startrek movie bar the aesthetics of the old and established settings that they've leeched off of.
Owen Roberts
He's a pillow biter isn't he.
Sebastian Foster
He's too ugly for any of that
Andrew Jenkins
>>Battle of Crait = Battle of Hoth (But this time it's at the end of the movie instead of the beginning, bravo Johnson!)
And this time we have the ships attack the AT-ATs... so we can show that shot in the trailers, 'cause the attack NEVER happens. I swear to god this thing was bold. Boldly retarded.
Logan Anderson
And yet they still fucking suck
Michael Moore
Maybe if you listened to fans and paid attention to the feedback TFA got you wouldn't have made a shit film.
Anthony Bailey
55% youngfag
Carson Miller
the only good thing he did was pairing the nigger with the chink.
Jayden Fisher
He needed his ex-wife to save them in editing again but she ran off with a stained-glass artist in '83.So he did the special editions to try and erase her from history and gave us Han shooting first.
Adam Cox
This
Gavin Murphy
Tfa fucked everything. Not defending tlj but the damage was already done.
Dominic Thomas
I think you meant to say "autist"
Hudson Hughes
I guarantee I'm older than you. I saw the OT before the "special editions" even existed, and have always thought that the prequels are shit
Parker Cox
but you and the D did and you were pretty far off
I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
Carter James
That's one of the amazing facts of life.
Sometimes a man does things to erase his fucking ex of his legacy and memories.
David Edwards
>It's a fucking trilogy. This is the middle movie. There was a story already.
Christian Kelly
Seriously, how hard can there be to make a star wars movie.
Andrew Kelly
>I guarantee I'm older than you. I saw the OT before the "special editions" even existed Different user here but all this proves it that you're at least 20.
Christian Lee
Jesus Christ "Jedi Rocks" is such fucking cancer
Adrian Hill
AHAHAHHAHAHAA AND THIS BOARD THINKS JJ IS GOING TO SAVE THE TRILOGY
Adrian Moore
And yet still not as dumb as Super Leia or Luke milking alien titties.
Jeremiah Rivera
Special editions came out in 1997. So I watched the OT as a baby before they came out?
btw I'm actually 39
Jaxon Allen
>THIS BOARD No, just a couple retards.
Benjamin Campbell
>Go watch the movie. I had to see it twice to truly get it.
>it's so "bold" I can't express it in words >you have to see it for yourself, twice
Disgusting shill.
Henry Anderson
Just want to check here, do you think either previous trilogy was mapped out before they were made?
I hope you're not planning to say "yes"
Camden Robinson
That whole scene was pointless, could of easily had self sacrifice and take out the cannont thing. Then Luke files down in an x-wing and takes out some AT-ATs before using his force powers to hold off the FO while the rebels escape. That Luke gets a heroic send off while showing just powerful he's become over the last 30 years.
Landon Reed
I would watch the ot on vhs growing up. I was a teen when tpm came out. I went to all three openings. I still enjoy those 6 movies.
Blake Bennett
>80-90% of the reaction I've gotten from Twitter has been really lovely.
That happens when Twitter bans anybody to the right of a fucking communist jew, you retarded faggot.
Ethan Anderson
Go to bed George
Jack Williams
>Go watch the movie. I had to see it twice to truly get it. THIS. Personally, I needed to see it four times to truly take it in and also spend $300 on merchandise but it was worth it.
David Lee
Yet Trump is still there
William Watson
Holy fuck. Talk about winging it. George had a story guideline for the OT for Irvin Kershner (who directed ESB) and Richard Marquand (who directed ROTJ). These faggots are just making shit up as they go along.
Oliver Lopez
55% kiddo
Lucas Sanchez
Not defending TFA but you've got to play the hand you've been given. You can't just make a squel that starts five minutes after the last one ended and ignore all the stuff you don't like.
Isaac Edwards
Yes. 'Member when Anniken Starkiller meets Han Solo the lizard alien used-car salesman and helps the Wookies destroy the Sith's Imperial Battle Station?
Thank fuck for script-editors.
Colton Rivera
No, that's fair. I only bring it up because I'm only 27 (1990) so watched the OT as a kid before the special editions were released, and at 27 I can't "guarantee" I'm older than other posters. You, sir, are the true oldfag.
Alexander Price
JJ: >where did Maz get the Bespin lightsaber? >why did Luke leave a map? >who's Snoke? >who are Rey's parents? >Eh, the next guy will handle all that shit
RJ: >Sure won't.
Jeremiah Bailey
>1990 Disgusting
Jason Hughes
I think part of the problem was that TFA basically forced whoever made the next film to make a film that carried on immediately after TFA. Star Wars films generally have a gap in time between them when other stuff happens. This also meant the opening crawl was pretty lame as all they could do is summarise TFA.
Jaxson Davis
why do you still think he had control over this movie?
I mean, do you honestly think Irvin Kershner or Richard Marquand had control back in the day? no, they just shoot the footage that lucas told them to shoot.
only once did the director had the total control over the movie. and that was during the prequel era.
Asher Hill
Cognitive dissonance. They have already invested the money and time to watch it, so they rate it higher than they otherwise would
Charles Baker
The overwhelming majority of people on Twitter are thoughtless casuals with no depth.
Also, everyone loved The Phantom Menace when it first came out, too. Look what happened to it. When the sensationalism dies down and the hype is gone, TLJ will be subject to festering hatred from the community, and the transient fans who 'loved' this movie will be gone.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
Brandon Ramirez
But the crawl tells us the FO has successfully invaded the galaxy.
How? It's never explained. Why didn't they take us to the action instead of a boring contrived chase.
Michael Bell
>”reach out” -> literally reaches out with her hand >drunk alien puts coins in BB8 ballin
Lincoln Taylor
Then why do they keep blaming Sup Forums for all the bad press?
Michael Cooper
Meanwhile, AJ is under fire:
Sebastian Russell
Anyone remember that video of that toy collector holding a shotgun and declaring that he was going to kill George Lucas after seeing The Phantom Menace? I assume youtube took it down because I can't find it anymore. Is this going to be history repeating itself?
Owen Lewis
>forced whoever made the next film to make a film that carried on immediately after TFA. Fucking garbage user.
Benjamin Wilson
Why can't they just hire someone like Scorcesse or even Tarantino to do one of these? These guys can't even get basic character logic and motivation correct.
Angel Jenkins
Fans is what made sw BIG.
Camden Peterson
Tell the truth Sup Forums.
This movie was better than TFA, and at the very least provided some brain dead fun in the form of action sequences and quips.
The first one was insanely on the rails boring and just as ridden with poor movie logic.
Rian must be so confused by the backlash. How could people not love more of the same shit (but enhanced) thrown at them?
Nathaniel Johnson
fuck off underage
Anthony Young
>rey spends a year training with Luke >FO is now in all out war with the republic >film starts with Poe and Finn bring sent to find out where the FO is getting it's money and ships from.
See it's not super difficult to come up with a starting point.
Joseph James
All disneywars is garbage.
Xavier Nguyen
>actual Rian Johnson shill on Sup Forums How are those 2 not better than Rian or JJ? It doesn't even have to be those particular directors it could be fucking anyone almost.