If you genuinely liked TLJ please explain to me your reasoning

If you genuinely liked TLJ please explain to me your reasoning.

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because I turned off my brain
also I like oscar isaac and adam driver

> ignored all the dumb jokes
> really enjoyed the Kylo/Rey dynamic
> thought Luke’s attempt to kill Ben was the first time in the series I actually felt Luke being tempted by the dark side, which was lacking in the OT
> Although I would have liked a Snoke backstory, i guess he ultimately wasn’t a big player in the story. Disappointed but the movie wasn’t ruined
> liked Poe’s arc
> Finn and Rose were boring and stupid. They needed to cut that casino scene down and get to the point faster about how these are the profiteerers from war.
> liked the code breaker who sold them out
> Yoda showing up was a treat, enjoyed him and Luke together again

All in all, I think it’s the best movie Star Wars Disney has put out so far. This coming from someone who though TFA was alright and Rouge One was mediocre

For the same reason one might enjoy a mortal kombat movie: things can be fun without being intellectually stimulating. TLJ didn't make a shred of sense in the bigger, or smalller, picture. However, the pacing is fast enough to not drag and the movie has plenty of action sequences, as opposed to what some mongs here would like everyone to believe.

I don't love it but Sup Forums is overreacting a bit. I liked the Rey, Kylo Ren, and Luke stuff enough that it picked up the rest of the movie. Luke's story is an age old trope. The idealistic hero who failed and went into seclusion. It was the path I was expecting his story to take. I think it also helps if you don't expect grand things from JJ plots. He's never done anything I like so I had no investment in who Snoke was or Rey's parents.

>reasoning
It's a star wars movie and it was awesome.

What put the movie over the top for me was how Rian Johnson expertly crafted the conclusion to Luke's arc. The death scene was so beautiful and kino.

I am black and I hate white people and white nerds/geeks so I support anything that destroys their stuff

I got to see Daisy Ridley cry and it was really really cute.

This made me laugh.

Because it was perfect in every possible way.

It's bold and different from your typical Star Wars movie, establishing themes of failure and how legends dont live up to their names.

monkeys like shiny objects

You can take your ebin baits back to Sup Forums senpai

Luke refused to fight his father because even though he was 99% evil, he still sensed the good in him. He senses evil in Kylo? TIME TO DIE!

He specifically says he didn't sense any good in Been at all.

yeah, Inside Llewyn Davis was pretty good

It was better then TFA, normie faggots are realising that star wars turned to nu wars this is why the film gets the hate.But in reallity TFA deserves all the hate.

i didn't even know it was released until Sup Forums became shitter than usual

Keep in mind he's a lot older and more realistic and less idealistic than he was in ROTJ. Plus it's probably easier to kill your nephew than your dad. Plus he didn't kill him so this opinion is lame.

i liked that ET Canada had the balls to give an honest review and not shill. when hearing the guy's voice thought it would be typical loudmouth tv personality, but he's got some points, anger but clear
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Adam Driver is fucking based

yeah, luke fails ben and blames it on the jedi teachings
such boldness and maturity

it's a fucking sham m8

>older and wiser

IT LITERALLY FUCKING WORKED THE LAST TIME!

I'm not a fan of Star Wars but the new ones have been quite literal shit

>Keep in mind he's a lot older and more realistic and less idealistic than he was in ROTJ
Why the fuck would he be? RotJ was a fucking grand slam home run for him. He sensed the good in Vader and it did fucking wonders. He relied on his friends and they came through. The emperor died like a bitch and Luke became a Jedi like his father before him. How is doubting his nephew's light more "realistic"? Stupid ass.

>blames it on the jedi teachings
He realizes the force is both good and evil and teaching its ways only leads to conflict between both, while leaving it alone achives balance on its own.

Her armpits showing.

Because Kylo is now a creation of Luke's teachings, he feels guilty of the darkness he has created and is tempted to destroy it to save everything else.

People who have no problem with Luke's regression don't understand what a Jedi Master represents - a Jedi Master doesn't have a "moment of pure instinct" inspired by fear that might just have him murder his flesh and blood. A Jedi Master is ABOVE this.

Fucking Mace Windu had Palpatine, a fully realized Sith Lord, dead to rights after fucking COMBAT, and even then he wanted to bring him to justice rather than murder him outright.

This movie SHITS all over what a Jedi is.

>implying any of that
are you the director of "let me pull this 2: straight out of my ass"?

> thought Luke’s attempt to kill Ben was the first time in the series I actually felt Luke being tempted by the dark side, which was lacking in the OT

excuse me?

Can you admit that Yoda looking like a puppet despite being CGI was weird looking and out of place?

I didn’t like it. I was extremely disappointed tbqh. BUT there were a few good things:

>They didn’t simply rehash old lore shot for shot/tried to do a bit of their own thing and expand on the tone.
>The final scene with Luke was ok.
>the visuals of the final planet (Kryt?) were fun.
>Kylo Ren and Rey had some decent chemistry. I really liked their scenes after she stopped telling him off...even though it made no sense whatsoever for her to actually have chemistry with him since he had just tortured her about a week or so ago in the film.
>The Kylo/Rey team up at the end was great. Absolutely loved it up until they ruined it with the two of them failing to have any developement and refusing to work together past the fight.
>Poe was great. He did nothing wrong. I like that his plan failed despite this. Makes him more human since he’s too much of a Gary Stue that can singlehandedly take on Star Destoryers.

That’s about everything good in the movie. I think that leaves about two hours of shit that I had to sit through for the rest of it. My list of issues would take waaaaaaay to long to type out so fuck that. Definitely not worth the $100 I spent taking the senpai to the theater.

Saw it stupid high with my friends.

Its literally on the movie when Rei is meditating on the island and senses everything.

I haven't seen it yet but I plan on enjoying it. I'm not big on Star Wars so I feel like it frees me to grasp the concept of characters doing things that were previously out of character since that's what humans do.

How in the holy fuck does family autocorrect to senpai?

no it's not you fucking faggot, stop talking out of your arse
he literally blames the jedi religion for his failure which does nothing but shit on luke as a character

family doesn't, fa m does
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>It's bold and different from your typical Star Wars
Except it isn't in the slightest. It is a ripoff of ESB and ROTJ.

Rewatch it and try to keep your brain functioning this time.

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Good

They didn't blow up a third (fourth?) Death star.

Adam Driver is a great actor.

Luke had a peaceful and respectful ending.

Lightspeed ram was visually gorgeous.

Snoke death and the following fight was great and expertly realized.

Rey was fixed. Finn had a smaller role.

Bad

The casino plot was boring. Superleia was fucking dumb.

Spotted the absolute newfag.

>rewatch it and turn off your brain lmao
ftfy

The war isn't treated as important, and is just a backdrop for an interesting/weird interpersonal and religious drama.

In terms of writing and acting it's probably better than any existing Star Wars movie. Whether it fits with the rest of them doesn't really matter to me -- it stands on its own.

I don't have to reason why I liked a movie during the experience. But I guess I liked how different it was, the direction, the creatures.

Uh, you're completely wrong. It was actually Anakin who wanted to save him. He said, "he has to stand trial!" Windu replied - "he's too dangerous to live!" Or something like this.

Windu wasn't acting like a jedi, but sheev used this to manipulate Anakin.

This is the problem I have with a lot of TLJ hates. I just see a lot of people getting the events of the movie actually wrong in their reasoning.

yes goy turn off your brain

Why did not they cut that piece of shit?

that scene was awesome, fucko

I liked it because it broke down the old tired structure of the Star Wars movies that all the fanboys obsess over. Not every risk it took paid off, but when they did, they did spectacularly.

Casino plot could've been trimmed down but it ultimately destroyed the trope that every single one in a million plan will always pay off, as they always do in star wars. Poes plotline similarly destroyed the 'hotshot daredevil pilot is always right in the end because he takes ridiculous risks' ideal and showed that not all heroes are the same. Kylo reaffirming his belief to the dark side after killing Snoke, subverting Reys belief in him, destroyed our expectation of redemption for the main antagonist.

That's what TLJ was to me, a destruction and a deconstruction, but the kind you do to an old dilapidated building so a better one can be built in its place. That comes later so I understand why some people feel empty about it now, but it needed to be done if this series is going to have a future.

Rian Johnson ripped an old bandage off of the fans of star wars, and the first reaction is anger from the stinging pain, but once that passes I think they'll come to see that they didn't need the bandage after all.

pretty much this.

Because movies don't fucking matter, its just entertainment. Jesus Christ.

>b-b-but Luke would never-

YOURE RIGHT. HE DOESNT FUCKING EXIST. ITS MAKE BELIEVE YOU FUCKING LOSER

It was fun.

>TIME TO TOTALLY SHATTER THE STRUCTURE OF STAR WARS AND REPLACE IT WITH A BUNCH OF PLOT HOLES

There was enough about it that I enjoyed that allowed me to overlook the fucking stupid flaws in the movie.

>Luke's character arc
>Rey moderately much more likable than she was in TFA
>Lightspeed kamikaze aftermath scene
>Twin sun send off for Luke
>Poe making less hotheaded calls
>Kylo was less insufferable and felt like an actual character that developed
>Luke and Yoda sitting near a tree, b-u-r-n-i-n-g
>First Order laundry ironing segue
>Porglets roasting on an open fire

I won't deny that this movie had a bunch of shitty issues that brings it down, but on the whole, I liked it more than I disliked it.

>plot holes

Literally not a thing in this movie

Because at the end of the day it was an enjoyable movie. Did they fuck some shit up? Of course, but the doesn't mean the whole movie was horseshit.

I go to the theater to be entertained

I was entertained.

The End.

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It was a puppet tho...

I didn't expect an anti-Star Wars movie. I feel smart by liking it, while mindless sheeps whine about Luke, Yoda, nonsensical subplots, etc
Also, Adam Driver was good.

Good job.

The Last Jedi is the Yeezus of Star Wars films. People are shitting on it, but will pretend they always fucked with it when Episode IX drops.

This, I also really liked the send off they gave Luke, having him face the binary sunset which mirrors the start of his jorney in A New Hope

The Last Jedi is unironically the second-best Star Wars movie after Empire.

Third best.

IV > V > VIII > VII > VI > I > R1 > III > II

And Mace Windu was always known as the most militaristic of the Jedi.

Luke was taught by the two most patient and diplomatic of the Jedi.

I didn't like it I liked it more than TFA because the Luke / Rey / Kylo stuff is better than anything in either movie

it took risks and was bold.

I thought it was great! My wife surprised me with tickets while I was in the hospital bed after getting a vasectomy. We saw it that night.

Funny way of spelling fourth

V > IV > VI > VIII > III > I > VII > RO > II

It actually took risk and tried new ideas rather then do nothing new and interesting like TFA

>Luke manages the single most impressive feat of force mastery ever seen in the movies, projecting himself accurately over a distance of light-years
>Sup Forums goes 'wtf why couldn't he be there in person so we could watch an old man awkwardly try to fight a generic lightsaber battle that we've already seen done before a thousand times'

Can't make this shit up

Why does everyone love 3 so much? It has the best ideas and some top notch cinematography in some sections, but the execution is egregiously inconsistent.

>ignoring general Tumblr not telling anyone about her plan despite a "spy on our midst" subplot merely being set up but not implemented and therefore having NO FUCKING REASON FOR NOT DOING SO
>ignoring Snoke taking credit for the whole force bond thing even though it persists after his death for no real reason
>ignoring the lightspeed kamakazi tactic working despite it begging the question of why they don't do that all the time
>ignoring Leia literally force pulling herself back to the shop after being blown into space

Congrats mouseketeer you got a (You)

>general
Stopped reading there. Watch the movie first.

I liked it because it gave me a waifu.

Nobody fucking cares what counselor problematic's official job title was you shilling shitstain. Address my points or shut the fuck up.

I turned off my brain once but was declared clinically braindead so I turned it back on.

It came in the heels of II, which was practically universally panned for its shitty romance subplot between Annie and Paddy. It also had Battle of the Heroes track, Sheev chewing up the scenery, Wookies, and giant spess battles. Honestly, much of what I felt was good about III was Sheev just going full ham with his evil shtick.

I'm not some kind of creep but what do you think Rey's piss was like after years of living in the sands of Jakku?

I like to think it was a social commentary on tribalism. That essentially, both sides are at fault or have flaws and that you have to let go of your past beliefs and ways of thinking to grow and progress and that we can never fully move on attacking the things we hate but rather coming together to preserve the things we love. I believe that it a metaphor for the Right and Left in American politics- that we can all collectively learn from our mistakes and be better than our masters.

I also thought that the cinematography was neat- the Rey mirror scene was cool, the fight on Craite with the red coming up was cool, and the throne scene fight was neat.

>However, the pacing is fast enough to not drag
Nigger what? The pacing is awful. The movie has two climaxes half and hour apart and the entire arc on Canto Bight could have been cut.

>liked Luke's aged and flawed logic that caused an obstacle Rey had to overcome, unexpected and I liked the direction
>Luke's split second mistake where he tried to kill Kylo was shocking but the way the final flashback played out I could really feel the initial shock Luke felt and how it led to his downfall.
>Enjoyed Poe Dameron's Arc
>Scene with Yoda was one of my favorites, puppet form and taught Yoda a valuable lesson about failure
>Kylo's character development of wanting to tear down the foundations of good vs evil and get rid of the old ways was great
>Throne room fight
>Good Score, interesting color palettes especially in Snoke's throne room and Crait
>Rey's parents being nobody led to her character being developed more

A lot of the problems I have with the movie are really dependent on what will happen in the next one. What they're gonna do with Leia and how the characters will learn from their failures, and what will actually happen with Snoke. Rey's parents do not have to be based on previous characters, not only would that have been obvious but a new character doesn't have to be directly related to another character. I'm mixed on the ending and how Luke's death was handled but overall I enjoyed it. I didn't mind Luke's decisions, he was flawed but it was intentionally written to be that way. Luke's damaged personality was a result of witnessing countless traumatic events and not wanting to relive a similar timeline from his own nephew, he fucked up and realized it immediately but that small mistake led to his downfall and isolation. Rey was the main character of the movie and she had to deal with a teacher that was unwilling and flawed. For people just wanting to see happy Luke, there's no lesson, there's no movie and it would be to similar to Empire, something that we want to avoid.

Poe is a soldier, he is meant to respect the authority of those who earned the positions above him. In real world militaries, a soldier is not privy to the plans of the generals, nor should they be, they should follow orders. You're just pissed because for once, the Rebellion was treated as an actual combat unit instead of a big buddy-buddy party where everyone is equal for no reason.

Were you asleep throughout the entire series or did you miss the part about how strong force users never really die and that they can manifest force effects in the real world? Why would Snokes connection dissipate after his death? There's literally no reason for it to, especially if it's now being maintained by Rey and Kylo themselves.

Lightspeed suicide bomb attacks are not cost effective and are only possible on large enough vessels. The Rebellion does not have nearly the resources or manpower of the First Order, and engaging in a war of attrition in that regard is fucking stupid. Go ask Japan how their kamikaze strategy worked against the US in the scope of the greater war.

Woah, the force did something weird and mystical, as if it had a mind of its own? That's literally never been done before nor has been a plot point of the entire series, simply incredible, really.

Try harder next time.

Maybe that's why he went into hiding. Wait isn't that why? Because he's losing it.

>liked the send off they gave Luke
dying from exertion

A satisfying and complex story line filled with deep and well thought out characters. It takes the series into a new direction. And best of all, it really pissed off a lot of worthless nerds. That's the best part.

>JUSTIFY YOUR OPINIONS TO ME SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE WRONG!

Holy shit, the butt hurt this movie is causing the Sup Forums turds is hilarious!

I liked Rey and kylo relationship, it was just like the relation between Luke and darth Vader, I liked that Luke is not just a hero and a person with flaws, the planets that they showed where really interesting like a whole plot device for them to interact. Awesome fight scenes Finn vs phasma and the Kylo and Rey fight against the snoke bodyguards where 9/10. Really good ending for Luke character.

It broke new... ugh i cant eveb

That's literally exactly how Yoda dies. Hell, Obi-Wan basically throws the fight in the FIRST film.

I like Guardians of the Galaxy and has now been too keen on Star Wars.

The TLJ staff appealed to my interest. Sorry (not sorry) you fans got hurt.

it had pretty pictures in space and in the salty desert

it was literally the original molds used in ESB puppeteered by Frank Oz. What the fuck are you on?

I know I'm late, but he thought about it for a second. Then he instantly regretted it

>hurr durr why didn't luke just destroy the fleet with his mind and get a 20,000 killstreak

fuck off you child

After achieving an amazing feat of force mastery, yes. Sorry his death didn't involve enough bright lights and loud noises to keep you interested, user.