What is your subjective opinion on the Godfather film(s)?

What is your subjective opinion on the Godfather film(s)?

One of my favourite films.

1 is definitely in top 3 movies ever
2 is good
didn't bother with 3, but my uncle says that's the best one lol

never seen them, i dont like italians

>Order me to the bookstore!

What did he mean by this?

1 = 2 > 3

>never seen them, i dont like italians

Watch it, user!

>2 equal to 1
Fuck off. 3 and a half hours and the only decent thing in it is the fucking flashback scenes

>the flashback scenes

I have to agree on this one: I love de Niro's Vito.
I wish the whole 2 was about him.

If you watch once upon a time in America and scarface you'll be fine to discuss the lore without having seen them

Vaffanculo

apparently its about a gay guy coming to terms with his sexuality or somethng

it's ok, they're american

Maronn'!

I orefer Goodfellas as a mob opera
but as a tragic story its pure kino.

The whole part in Cuba isn't great and Hyman Roth is not an interesting character.
But the trial, the pentagelli arc, the whole ending and that fucking end scene are absolutely on the level of the first part.

Great but overrated. It's hard for me to explain why exactly, but to me the movie has always seemed a bit "stiff", as if I'm not watching real people make decisions, but rather am watching characters fulfill the needs of plot. Or to put it another way, for all its cinematic mastery, it feels a bit like a soap opera blown up to awe-inspiring proportions - not in the sense that its themes are those of a soap opera, but that there's something about how the characters and plot develop that is soap opera-ish and slighly inorganic.
It's an 8/10 that people treat like a 9/10 or 10/10.
I think that Apocalypse Now is better.

Taken together, Parts 1 and 2 are the greatest cinematic achievememt of all time.

>but muh dork night

> I'm not watching real people make decisions, but rather am watching characters fulfill the needs of plot.
t. soy-blooded indidvidual

Did you miss every single Sonny scene ? Did you fall asleep when Tom Hagen was on screen ? Were you browsing reddit every time Michael spoke ?
Two thirds of their scenes are basically them torturing themselves over their own decisions. And I'm not even talking about Vito in the second half...
Either we didn't watch the same movie or you simply don't understand how men think. There's no better movie about decisions and their consequences.

Is Goodfellas the one where a bunch of old men beat the shit out of a guy withhold clubs? Or am I thinking of Casino?

educate yourself pleb.

Fuck...
Watch these movies instead of asking stupid questions, time better spent.

No, it's the one where Hugh Grant has to pretend he's part of the mob because he's dating the boss' daughter.

Would Vito have killed his brother if he was in Michael place?

There's something just plain ... ugly about it. Like an NES game on a tv with fried color rods.

But the first two are good. If slow. And ugly.

I think Vito would have been wiser and would have not allowed the brother to slip away.
But in case, yes.

1 is just perfect. Perfect movie.
2 is good, but I don't get those that say is better than 1.
3.. eh.
But the descent of Mike into evil in the first part is so well built that is unbelievable. Also part one has Hagen and Clemenza.
Hagen in articular, his need to be accepted for all his life makes him interesting.

If that isn't a movie already it should be

>DUDE MAFIA CLICHÉS LMAO
Pretty long and boring. Never seen any of them.

>DUDE SPACE CLISHÉS LMAO

Reddit core

Not a diehard fan of this series. But you have to say you've at least tried to watch one before calling them cliche.

then reddit has better taste than Sup Forums considering this board is full of capeshit and star wars cuckery

I actually felt robbed when the flashbacks skipped from young Vito barely making a living to him running the first protection rackets and stuff
I would watch a whole movie about him building up his crime empire

You have to go back

I haven't watched them in 10 years newfag

I really hope you're not serious.

>Hyman Roth is not an interesting character

I watched it on Sunday and he was just a less interesting Hesh

>saw it when I was a kid, not in english
>forgot about it
>read a book a month ago, in english
>saw 1 about a week ago, in english
>there's a thread about it wtf

Ok, am I contrarian to think that the film is just mediocre? The beauty of Godfather is in it's details: in perfectly explained logistics, planning, motivations, etc. The movie cuts almost all of it out. We just see raw plot with some leftover explaination in olny the core parts, even tho it does it really efficient and beatiful. The other thing is masterfully done non-linearity: assasination attempt, the death of Sonnie - in the book it really HITS HARD. The book is just too fucking good, the film comes out pale in comparison.

>Hyman Roth is not an interesting character.
Hyman Roth is fantastic. Way more interesting than the moustache-twirling Barzini.
The scene he talks about Moe Greene is fantastic.

>The book is just too fucking good
Unless one is accustomed to read only novelizations, this is the most common thing and that's completely fine.
But as a movie, The Godfather, at least part I, is perfect.
Themes about duty (and any subversion) are what make it striking, especially for men.
Is another movie that would not be made nowadays.

There are, like, 10 SW threads right now.
You can go there.

But you're the pleddit here, user

Best movie ever made and very good source to learn editing and montage.

Gangster classic and one of the greatest films of all time.

There is the objective truth that the first two are some of, if not the best movies ever made.

In my opinion they have aged much better than older 'greats' like Citizen Kane & Casablanca, and hold up as well as the day they were made. The Godfather films epitomise the true golden age of cinema.

Coppola's plan was for each film to be about the death of a son, so Sonny, then Fredo, then it was supposed to be about Tom Hagen, but Robert Duvall wanted to be paid the same as Al Pacino. The studio wouldn't do it, so Pacino had to carry the film himself, and the trilogy's arc was ruined. Very sad.

Godfather 1 is imo the greatest film ever made, but The Noriko Trilogy is the GOAT trilogy, because Godfather 3 is only very good, not great.

>books are more detailed than movies
STOP THE PRESSES GUYS

I enjoy the first 2 a lot. Haven't seen the 3rd.

>the godfather is reddit because I say so
sure boy

>shitting on the Godfather
you are a woman, aren't you?

Very true. The sound designer, Walter Murch, thought that music should not be used to manipulate emotions in a scene, but to reflect on them afterwards.

So for example, in the restaurant scene where Michael kills Sollozzo and McClusky, you might normally get some tense building music in the bathroom and coming out. There is no music, but the sound design is extremely good, minimal, but good. The sound of the gun scraping on the cistern, footsteps, the table overturning, and he masterfully uses the sound of the Subway to build tension. Music only plays after Michael leaves the restaurant.

IMO the masterful sound design & recording is what really sets The Godfather apart from older films. That is the area where advances in technology and craft most contributed to better films. Coppola himself was obsessed with Sound (he made the conversation, a movie about sound and recording), another reason his films are so good.

The score to The Godfather is fucking amazing too.

overrated af. Goodfellas, Casino, Once upon a time are all better.

Nice Reddit meme
>Me hate woman
Fuck your self, incel

shut up kid kid. people are discussing about themes and editing.
go to spam in some capeshit thread.

The part at the end where it zooms in on Michael all alone would be sappy and awful if done today but it's the perfect ending for that film. Coppola said the third film was supposed to be a epilogue and it should have been

I still prefer the finale of part I with the doors closing on the wife

>Says Godfather is bad while using meme film image

Okay

Then it's a good time to rewatch it. Can't really claim to have seen a movie when you can't recall what the fuck it was about.

>Sup Forums probably only knows Brando from this & apocylipse now
Literally the greatest actor ever

1>2>>>>>>>>>>>>

1>2>>>>>>>>>

Maybe in America sure... even then i think The Tree Of Life is more grand

The first two are true film classics. Timeless and masterfully made. The last one is mediocre at best.

The Tree Of Life is a shit movie though.

Boring poorly acted crap about a guy who didn't like his father, made to look like a universal theme thanks to a few 5/5 wallpapers found on deviantart. And aside from making his cameras spin around a bit in low angle shots, Malick has still no idea how to direct a movie.
I really don't see the connection between Malick's pretentious bullshit while filming shitty suburs courtyards and the sober though majestic imagery of the Godfather.

I don't think so--it's made clear that Vito's one soft spot is for his family, and protecting the family factors into every decision he makes. Power is just a tool to Vito, family is what matters most. Micheal thinks he is ruthless like his old man, but he takes it too far and values power over family.