I honestly love this man. He's so fucking funny...

I honestly love this man. He's so fucking funny, such a bumbling weirdo who never knew what he was doing but knew he wanted to do it.

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We're sorry George, really sorry.
Please fix what Disney has done.

He never knew what he was doing, but at least he cared, at least he was passionate about what it was. He cared about this universe and the characters. I would much rather watch passionate incompetence over soulless, focus-tested competence any day

>"Wow these prequels are fucking terrible, surely no one could make a worse starwars film"
>Disney:"hold my beer"

>literal billionaire
>never knew what he was doing
keep making excuses for why you're literally nothing, ape.

It's weird though cause the OT wasn't really just "his vision" a lot of people contributed to it really.

I'm general opposed to the whole "focus group/design by committee" thing but the more I look into the more it seems the OT was kinda designed by committee. It was like a committee of other artistic people though not marketers.

>He never knew what he was doing
Are you serious? He made fucking American Graffiti, worked with Spielberg and Copolla, helped innovate special effects, and made a shit ton of money off of everything at Lucasfilm. Stop with this dumb meme.

George wouldn't be able to fix things on his own. He fucked up when he was on his own with the prequels.

But he needs to be the ideas/outline guy again, because he actually had good ideas. Just can't execute them for shit, and can't filter out his shitty ideas from good ones.

Star Wars currently has no real direction.

This is why I'll gladly watch the prequels every now and then but I'm never going to watch TLJ ever again. They're fumbles but at least he was going for the goal instead of burning the whole field.

>Star Wars currently has no real direction.
It has a direction, turn into Kathleen Kennedy's shitty fanfiction, push merchandise and make unnecessary movies until everyone is sick of it.

I was just talking about him and the prequels. The guy is a real legend in every other regard.

I wish there was some loophole or something for Lucas to be able to still make Star Wars films, but only in a producing role since I'm sure he'd admit now that he's not really interested in the huge weight that comes with directing. He has the money to make an entire trilogy and still be one of the richest motherfuckers in the world.

>an autistic committee
There's your answer. Get a bunch of uber autists together who collectively care about the success of something and who can each contribute meaningfully to a project and you'll have a product worth investing in eventually.

You know what I meant. Story/plot direction.
They just decided "we need a trilogy", without having any real idea what the main idea of the trilogy was supposed to be about.

OT: Ultimately about the rebellion defeating the empire (with the Skywalker story laid on top of it).

Prequels: Rise of the Empire, and the fall of Anakin Skywalker.

New trilogy: There's a new force user... and... something? The resistance will beat the First Order? But Snoke was already killed, and the First Order doesn't really feel like the sort of threat that the Empire was.

The only real thing going on is "The fall or redemption of Ben Solo". Random girl who has no real connection to the plot doesn't count.

Didn't Lucas always said he wasn't that great of a writer or director?

this probably true. I think George's own autism got the better of him though and he pushed most of the OT crew away and didn't try to make a new crew for the PT. Hard to keep so many autists together.

He knew exactly what he was doing and he was really really good at it.

Its all the idiots in the world who didnt get it and then projected their own stupidity on Lucas.

Idiots do that all the time. Its an aphorism.

>George played the long con and now people are crawling back to the PT
B R A V O

Speaking of a committee, what about the Lucasfilm story group that's making all the Disney shit? Are they all sjw types who want to stifle any creativity? Do they even care about Star Wars?

Yea Disney just looked at how the OT had 3 different directors and said oh lets do that again but forgot that George was still very involved and gave Kasdan outlines before letting him write the scripts.

Fuck pleaseee everyone screech for lucas to produce so he gets a chance to redeem himself and the franchise, disney would do it too

He gave them ideas, but they trashed them and kicked him out the door

Yeah I think he's admitted as much. He's got great ideas in broad-terms but it's with the details where he can't really follow-through.

i want lightsaber battles like this again

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>major subplot of American Graffiti is grooming a young girl for sex
>Allows sexual tension to bubble into RotJ even when they know they're doing the sister reveal
>Episode 1 sets up a large age disparity between Anakin and Padme
Incest, pedophilia, grooming, is there anything this man can't do?

>the autism theory

It's only two for the main trilogy now. They pussied out and rehired JJ to direct episode 9 after Collin Treverow directed that shitty book of henry movie. Everything at lucasfilm is such a mess.

I'm also interested in knowing who these people even are.

I imagine they only know Star Wars in an iconic sense and are more concerned with shoveling SJW propaganda to "revamp" it.

You've gotta get the right balance between someone who is dedicated and passionate enough about the series without going full autissimo like some of the EU stuff.

Yea you can feel that in the prequels where it's like he clearly wanted Palpatine to be an evil politician but he just presents it as
>he's doin evil political stuff!
his specific plan is never very clear probably because George either didn't know himself or didn't know how to present it.

I honestly just wanna talk with this guy. I don't know if he's as shy as he seems when in one-on-one conversation, but either way I just wanna talk to him on a human level. He seems like a sweet guy with a lot of interesting insight, especially in regards to mythology.

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there you go. Pablo is the only one who talks to the public much. He's pretty active on twitter and would answers questions every week in "rebels recon" a shitty youtube show they did to tie in with the disney XD series

that's why for the OT he had helps. but PT when he needed help all his director friends turned him down

Mark Hamill talks about it some on that podcast where he's interviewed by the guy who played Biff Tannon on Back to the Future.

George has always been this sort of reclusive guy who's very technical, while his wife at the time of the original Star Wars was the outgoing/happy/social one who was more empathetic. They were an odd couple.

He is Tommy Wiseau if he was surrounded by geniuses

It’s Kathleen Kennedy. It’s all Kathleen Kennedy.

damn and I thought there was no way to improve indy

>theory

It's pretty fucking clear

Honestly if this guy is autistic then bravo cuz he's probably the richest autist of all fucking time.

Exaclty. Something else to think about is how George is the creative type, while also being an excutive overseer on projects. Kathleen is some bitch who was a secretary that got a lot of power and thinks she can be the exec and creative type at the same time, when she has terrible ideas. She's the one who hired the main actor for the Han Solo movie who's so bad he needed acting lessons and reshoots.

lmao based

I wish he would write an autobiography about his life and his thoughts about things, at least before he dies. It would be surreal to actually meet him.

Kathleen Kennedy is apparently actually a very competent executive and good at her position. The problem is her trying to tip her hand on the creative side when she has no business doing so, like a lot of executives at a lot of studios (WB execs with the DC movies and such)

>Kathleen Kennedy is apparently actually a very competent executive
Explain the situation with Rogue One, TLJs box office and reviews, and the clusterfuck that is Solo a Star Wars Story.

Explain what about it?

What was up with Rogue One?

Kathleen Kennedy is more of a meddler than George Lucas. She dips her hand into everything. But instead of ruining shit with crazy ideas she ruins it with focus groups

It's funny that Rian says they basically let him do whatever he wanted but KK insisted on the Leia using the force stuff. You know she was going for some "girl power" appeal.

I think he means the reshoots that basically changed the movie. Look at how many scenes and lines that were in the trailers weren't in the final film.

>KK insisted on the Leia using the force stuff
Source?

It feels like he was allowed to do whatever he wanted..... as long as he fulfilled our agenda of x, y, and z.

Baseless theory here, but maybe after taking the wheel and realizing what a shitshow Disney's Star Wars was gonna be he decided to just crash the car by making something that was so off and muddled that the next director can't do anything with it.

Or he just sucks.

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>That was something Kathy [Kennedy] was always asking

It makes sense for Leia to use the force again but going all Mary Poppins with it was knuckle-draggingly stupid.

Lucas knew exactly the kind of people to surround himself coming up. That's what makes certain individuals stand out from the rest of the pack regardless of the field.

do you think disney would ever let him make a spin off?

Yeah, it was executed in the worst way possible. At least put her in a situation where she can acknowledge it. Like, say, her and a few other high-ranking officers are trapped under some debris and after she saves them by lifting it she says something like, "Luke taught me a few simple tricks" or something.

The person I was watching with was absolutely baffled during the scene and I had to explain to them that Leia was force-sensitive like Luke.

what he did was very tonally off and it doesn't have a star wars look and the specific plot of this movie has holes but I don't think this is un salvageable at all and in a broader sense he's trying to steer the series away from old stuff which does need to be done if disney wants to keep making these forever, which they do

>Lucas makes an Old Republic trilogy

You know you want it.

I think the mess that came with the prequels deserves its own documentary. It could be incredibly insightful.

>Luke taught me a few simple tricks
that's a terrible line user

I agree that execution was the problem here, it's already established she has the force, but I think the better way for her to use it would be she has a vision of the missiles about to hit the bridge and gets out before they hit.

God yes, something so far in the past it has nothing to do with Disney's Star Wars but where he can still use and explore his mythology, maybe at an even more raw/pure level since its in the past.

"I saw George, hugged him and whispered, 'it'll never be the same'"

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there pretty much is one just look at the behind the scenes stuff

He's over on the "more functional" side of the spectrum but definitely on there.

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>it doesn't have a star wars look

I noticed that too and it's been bugging the shit out of me ever since because I can't put my finger on what exactly makes it look so off.

I think it's the lighting. It's too bright.

>George's inspiration for Sheev in the prequels wasn't Bush like everyone thought, but himself

>they are letting Rian fucking Johnson make a spin off trilogy before George

Mark is a sweet boy.
When was this pic taken? George is so JUST'd compared to his 1976 look.

Wait, so why didn't they just do this from the getgo? Why did JJ have more control of the matter for TFA with "oh Leia just decided to never use the force because lol"

I honestly love this man. He's so fucking funny, such a bumbling weirdo who never knew what he was doing but knew he wanted to do it.

This tore my heart out.

Tbh the love between a man and a pure young girl is kino

1980. When ESB was filming.

Sheev was probably Cheney, and Anakin was Bush.

That might be it. Rogue One isn't perfect but god damn they absolutely nailed the Star Wars feel.

Bush was Jar jar. Anakin was the American people.

R1 was boring, but it was still Star Wars.

this is why i unironically love the prequels

they werent the best, but as an artist i can see where george wanted to go with, just executed poorly

the numerous edits and retouches are an obvious tell of an artist who is never satisfied with their work. hes the guy who does bad anatomy and mixes the paint in stupid ways but does so for his own vision.

disney is that kid who just makes collages of banksy art and covers the whole thing with glitter

Yea for sure. Edwards clearly studied the OT set/costume design a lot too. Rian said him and his cinematographer or lighting guy or whatever went and studied ESB and then said fuck it lets not shoot it like a SW movie.

It was an intentional choice.

For as much shit as people are giving his plot/Luke's character I think the movie would be wayyyyyyy better if you just took out 90% of the jokes and made it look more star warsy.

>Jar Jar gave emergency powers to Sheev
>The American people serve under Sheev

That means Sheev was thew Jews

>a whole trilogy of casino planets, tit-milk, and porgs

Can I be put intoncarbonite too?

Yeah he's great. Gave David Lynch a headache.

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Probably because KK realized that Marvel hires decent but unseasoned directors so they can be used as puppets so she got Rian and Trevorrow on board.

he was a fighter.
he was a general.
he was a politician.
he fought with the jedi.
he led clones to battle.
he delegated with the senate.

he was there when lord vader was still named anakin.
he helped him become the lord vader we love and respect
he was there to ensure the empire rose from the corruption of the republic.
he gave way to the destruction of the jedi order.

and most of all, he was a friend.

i didnt say his name but you already know in your heart who he is...

I wonder why they kicked Trevorrow out. What did he want to do that made Kathleen say "no, this is not empowering, inclusive, or powerful"?

This. George is the Henri Rousseau of film.

Prequels sucked because everyone George tried to get to direct the movies pussied out so he had to work on all three by himself and ended up getting stuck with a ton of yes men
I'm sorry George

I was watching some behind-the-scenes of Gareth Edwards the other day and hoo boy that guy is insanely talented. He did everything on his debut film, including all the visual effects, and even operated the camera while shooting Rogue One. If he gets a good writer and a great story to work with I can see him knocking it straight outta the park.

Wow, Rian is a bigger hack than I realized. No wonder the movie looked like misguided garbage

serious question, lore wise does she actually dye her hair or does star wars have some anime "multiclored hair denotes uniqueness" rule?

referring specifically to humans of course

Bill Gates would beg to differ.

Someone should just re-edit the film. At least make it bearable.

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review his review

While I didn't really enjoy Rogue One either time I saw it, I'm pretty sure that was due to Disney making him rewrite and reshoot half the movie. Even the score which was compased in a rushed amount of time was better than WIlliam's own work for TFA.

I'm almost certain it was because he directed The Book of Henry and that film is the king of all clusterfucks so they pulled it out of his hands.

>they absolutely nailed the Star Wars feel
This, holy shit. People don't acknowledge this because of MUH PANDERING TO NOSTALGIA, but they really gave it their all to replicate A New Hope. All the little details (designs, costumes etc.) were fantastic. Too bad about the actual movie though.
Listen to Garreth Edwards talk about ANH. He's really passionate about it and what it means to him. I think he isn't that good of a director but I do appreciate how he made RO as visually accurate as possible and it's probably my favorite cinematography wise of these new movies.
Something about TFA and TLJ look off to me, like they didn't even bother to get the look right. Hell TFA was shot on film but it looks like a shitty TV show.

It's gotta be genetic.

Pretty sure she dyed it in-universe. The only other recent character to do so is the girl mandalorian in rebels.

reminder that rogue one couldve worked better it it was an animated/3d cg "OVA"

it being an actual film makes people think its supposed to be part of the saga.

>Everything at lucasfilm is such a mess.

Speaking of which, how much blame should be placed on Lucasfilm?