The Last Jedi wasn't great. But it was decent...

The Last Jedi wasn't great. But it was decent. So instead they're bringing back the creator of the worst Star Wars movie ever made to finish the trilogy.

How does it feel that TLJ will the only movie with any redeeming qualities in Disney Wars?

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I don't know how TFA is a movie you can really feel that strongly about. It's safe, meant to be par for the course.

But TLJ was boring, user. At least JJ gave me the thrills. Rehashed thrills, but still thrills

Its not by any means passable, its exactly everything wrong with current Hollywood, raping and bringing back old beloved franchises with forced politics and virtue signaling and over the top of that a poor creative vision, all for the sake of making shekels

TLJ was a planned misdirection. Everyone figured out what was going to happen and JJ gave the movie to Rian so he could just fuck his shit up. Now JJ will finish with Rey Kenobi saving Ben Skywalker.

>JJ Abrams took the safe route and for the most part remade a new hope
>JJ actually has some reverence for the series and attempted to recapture that mystery
>Rian went in with a wrecking ball and just subverted everything that makes star wars, star wars, while calling out the audience for giving a shit... all the while shoving in piss-poor attempts at humor

I like Rian as a director, but goddamn, watching TLJ you'd think he hated and just deconstructed star wars. He just went meta with it and almost mocked the fans for giving a single shit about anything JJ made... which is a lot to take from someone who starts their movie off with an old verizon commercial and BB-8 saving the day by driving an AT-ST.

JJ's not perfect, he's ultimately an odd choice, but I felt he was much more reined in on TFA since it was the first go around. Given this new "nothing matters" approach to star wars I kind of have faith he'll be able to pick up the pieces and make something meaningful of it and be free to craft something more unique.

>JJ actually has some reverence for the series and attempted to recapture that mystery
Everything you just said is wrong.

If JJ can somehow save this lightspeed flying shitshow, than I will never forget it, but honestly I think it's too late

BB-8 piloting an at-st was fucking Kino.

Everything else sucked dick. Porgs were ok

There's only about 3 or 4 planets left for him to destroy so it shouldn't be a very long movie.

I could see him bringing Mark back and working in a 'redemption' arc that will hopefully bring him back to a state of Heroic Lawful Good. Maybe even a scene with Driver confessing that Luke was right, and should have struck him down. Or something. Man I dunno, saw the flick on the 19th and I'm still pissed

they're only bringing him back for 2 reasons.

1. They gave Rain his own trilogy, so he'll be too busy to come back and direct

2. The way TLJ ends leaves them in a very weird place given Carrie Fisher's Death, and they think he can help

>he will only make things worse

how to recognize a damage control shill in one easy step:
>The Last Jedi wasn't great. But it was decent.

how is it damage control, calling TFA shit, and JJ's next movie inevitably shit? You can try calling that Gisnep psyops, but you'd be stupid for doing so. Because the real shilling that's going on right now is people saying that JJ's movies and vision are better.

jew jewing

I watched it on saturday and I'm still pissed,the more I think about the worse it gets

>The Last Jedi wasn't great. But it was decent.

Opinion discarded.

The Last Jedi was a lot worse than TFA.

TFA was basically a middling nothing of a movie.

The Last Jedi was genuine garbage.

it’s not too late for them to bring based george in

It would have been good if TLJ ended on a cliffhanger of some sort. But nooooooooooooo they must subvert our expectations.

TLJ is in the theaters right now and it's underperforming. That's what matter to them at present time.

I kind of like TLJ and genuinely hate JJ. But I understand and respect your sensibilities.

>c-c'mon bros, i mean it's bad but i've seen worse xD, it's far from terrible, agreed? you see...

wrong as fuck

TFA had 0 new ideas, was a shitty remake, corny and cheesy with nothing redeemable about it at all

TLJ was too long, had an inconsistent tone, and a ton of plotholes. but the acting was good, and there were far more good parts of TLJ

TFA played it super safe and was absolute shit and boring
TLJ tried to troll our expectations and was ultimately very unsatisfying. but at least it was ambitious and they tried. i still hated both but TFA was far worse

but (you) are now trying too hard.

TLJ was shit but let's not let it put TFA in a good light in anyway

they both suck donkey dicks for totally different reasons

The entire new trilogy is terrible and has already caused the death of one original cast member.

TLJ was worse by far. It shit on over 40 years of lore and character, it introduced nothing of value, and lowered the bar for the future of star wars.
Star Wars is now Pirates of the Caribbean. Great.
The only reason soft headed liberals love it is because some smart marketing person used the phrase "subverting expectations" and now lefties and hipsters get all moist by deluding themselves that the movie was anything but trash.

>It shit on over 40 years of lore and character
prove it.

perhaps you should take 2 minutes browsing the internet, shitbag.
I'll give you a hint though, there's this famous character called Luke Skywalker, known for his undying optimism..

TFA shat on lore worse, introduced nothing of value, and it's only "redeeming" quality was the nostalgia factor, which they ruined completely. TLJ at least had hammil's acting, throne room fight, and rey wasn't a fucking mary sue runing the movie this time

how can you think starkiller base and the cringeworthy action of TFA is in any way better?

if you like star wars, TFA makes you sad but TLJ makes you feel nothing, bored if anything.

fucking starkiller base and recycled ideas and memes are shit. TFA is 2/10 TLJ is 4/10

so he should be a Mary Sue then, right? Maybe more like Rey. How fucking dare a character have conflict and resolve it.

>known for his undying optimism..
that's a profoundly stupid way of interpreting the OT

Luke going into exile isn't weird, and that early 20's optimism often dies at an older age.

What IS out of character is him thinking that Ben Solo was beyond redemption. There's no way that he'd think an absentee father he never knew how more potential to be turned to good than his nephew he saw grow up from being a baby to a young man.

He might stay out because of broken spirit over his own nephew failing, and believing it's his own fault, but he would never think it wouldn't be possible to save him.

They're bringing JJ back to make him clean his own mess.

I didn't defend TFA at all in my post fuckhead. TFA was terrible, but TLJ did actual damage to the Star Wars universe.
Also it was a fucking terrible movie.
>I'm leia poppins yall
yes he should be a fucking mary sue. that's his character. like it or not that's a major character trait of his.
>i'm the stupid one
maybe you'll understand if mark hamill explains it
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>early 20's optimism often dies at an older age
debatable. often prime personality traits like that never change.

>yes he should be a fucking mary sue.
feel free to stop posting any time.

Mark Hamill can bitch all he likes, but Luke had a redemption arc and denying that is just silly.

i'll stop posting when you stop sucking mouse cock you fucking useless fanboy.

redeemed himself for doing ridiculous stuff in the same said movie written by a total fucking hack?
ok then. good arc.

you probably the kind of dipshit that thinks attack of the clones is a masterpiece.

TLJ sucked dick and so you you. get over it :)

FA>>>>>TLJ. They are both worse than prequel-tier though.

I'll get over it once you make a valid point. But you've failed so far. Sad!

just fuck off back to plebbit already. your low effort shitposting isn't even entertaining.

>a mary sue is a good thing
you've long past exposed yourself as a shit taste idiot. No buzzwords can save you.

>TFA had 0 new ideas, was a shitty remake, corny and cheesy with nothing redeemable about it at all

Exactly like I said - a nothing movie.

>TLJ

Was complete shit in every single way. There wasn't anything in the entire film was that was good, and plenty that was bad that also retroactively ruins the series. It's dog shit.

>At least they tried

oh, user...

Disney didn't like TLJ so they heavily changed it. That's why the movie is a mess.
At least with JJ they know they won't have to deal with reshots and cutting scenes. JJ knows how to make toys ads.

A rehash is usually worse than something original because it doesn't even bother to bring something new to the table

You don't need to "remind people why they love star wars" by literally making A New Hope 2.

Perhaps a nice warm sip from my tittyballs will calm you down faggot.
>imagine trying to defend this shit

Will Star Wars Episode IX find a way?

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Rian's Luke hates you and George Lucas hates you too.

The biggest tragedy of that casino storyline for me was how flippantly it squandered Finn and Rose as characters and rebels. I love seeing minority actors on the big screen being given quality material to work with, and the casino arc just made me feel like Rian Johnson shunted some really amazing talent/representation off the main stage and into a wild goose chase. It's really gratifying to see diverse characters throughout the ranks of the resistance, but ultimately that feels only like a gesture when that diversity remains relegated to the sidelines.

>J.J. Abrams kills two birds with one stone by turning Your Name into a Star Wars movie.

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FINDS

Both movies did damage to the franchise.

I prefer TLJ though for at least trying - Even if it largely failed.

Star Wars will likely has another 3-4 movies left in it but I think it'll be dead within a decade.

>Disney didn't like TLJ so they heavily changed it. That's why the movie is a mess.
Really? Which scenes were reshot?

TFA was a safe, mediocre rehash. TLJ was a complete trainwreck. Honestly cant decide which if worse

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>rian's luke
haha

Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

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>irrelevant
you really just don't get it. I hope you love episode 9. Cheers.

>being this delusional
TLJ IS AN AMAZING WORK OF BRILLIANCE YOU'RE JUST TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTHS OF IT'S SUBVERSIVENESS.

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>JJ comes up with unanswered questions for TFA
>Rian comes up with shit answers for TLJ
>JJ will probably fuck up whatever Rian did in Ep IX
Crazy when you think about it.

the fuck happened there?

To be more cucked? Sure.

>I'll give you a hint though, there's this famous character called Luke Skywalker, known for his undying optimism.
The Last Jedi was a perfect continuation of Luke's character. They could have made him into a Mary Sue character but they did not, instead they portrayed him realistically and with flaws. As Luke said in the beginning he couldn't take on the entire first order himself.

The jedi were failures, the prequels already "deconstructed" them. This is referenced when he talked about Sidious. Them being exiles is also established in the original movies as Obi Wan and Yoda exiled themselves, so this follows from the prequels and originals. This is a better continuation of his character then the Legends books (not page turners) which were just fan fiction depictions of him.

>they portrayed him realistically and with flaws
...like drinking cum and murdering children

Luke already has an established character. Make fucking new characters.
>should have made han solo a wive abusing alcoholic, would have been super gritty
>leia was force into turning tricks to support her blue milk problem
those would have been great right?
get the fuck out

And made Kylo a Mary Sue instead? That's a solution to you? lmao

Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are both objectively worse than The Force Awakens. The Phantom Menace is arguably worse as well.

TESB > ROTJ > ANH > Rogue One > TLJ > TFA > TPM >>> ROTS >>>> AOTC

ANH>TESB>ROTJ>Rogue>TFA>RoS>AoC>>>>TPM>TLJ

>...like drinking cum and murdering children
He liked blue milk in the original trilogy. Also, he never actually killed any children, he only got as far as pulling his lightsaber out after considering it. At that point, he came close to the darkness of his father who also killed children.
>Luke already has an established character.
Agreed. Luke had an established character, and this movie is a brilliant continuation of that. It was established that he was impulsive, like when he ran away in empire strikes back and that is why he impulsively attacked Ben. He also was established as training under Yoda and Obi Wan, who were exiles which then leads into his own character being one too.
>should have made han solo a wive abusing alcoholic, would have been super gritty
That wouldn't have been bad, he was never an upstanding guy.
>leia was force into turning tricks to support her blue milk problem
Carrie Fisher had quite a cocaine problem in real life to be fair.
>And made Kylo a Mary Sue instead? That's a solution to you? lmao
Kylo Ren was never portrayed as a Mary Sue, for example he was evenly matched with Rey.

Edgelord Tryhard Opinion

problem with people like you is you will never admit to being dumb enough to have defended this shitshow of a movie after the dust settles.

>The Last Jedi was a perfect continuation of Luke's character

At least Rian tried.
It's one thing to try and fail, and another to not try at all.

>try and fail
more like Rian fail

No JJ failed. At least Rian submitted an original work. JJ is a plagiarist and would fail freshman theater script.

TESB>ANH>ROTJ>TFA>ROTS>R1>>TPM>>>>TLJ>>AOTC

It was good, you guys are such babies. Dogmatic hatred.

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