THOSE WEAPONS

WTF are them?
Why are them as strong as a lightsaber?

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These guys were the only thing I enjoyed in the movie

Read up on vibroblades and vibroweapons.

In the old canon they were OP as fuck and could defeat lightsabers pretty easily.

>EU is not canon anymore
they need to came up with a real explanation on why in the movie now a lightsaber is not more a big deal(even a fucking toilet cleaner can weild it)

These guys just seem so outta place for a Star Wars movie. They look more fitting for the Fifth Element or a Tarsem film.

There's never been anything preventing non-jedi from using lightsabers except their rarity and difficulty of use. Finn using the lightsaber is literally nothing special.

Plastoid Weapons

>guy on the right with a giant metal toothpick

it turns into a whip

I think they are the knights of ren

Why does he have a dildo for a helmet?

it's the usual retard "sword-wip" weapon that youll see in every fantasy movie

I think they are not

>I think they are the knights of ren
>yfw all the Knights of Ren are dead without even knowing who they were

it's so bullshit that it must be true

Vibro weapons were the sw equivalent of 40k chainswords. Impossible to parry any lightsaber unless they were made of specific materials or had an energy field.

One them actually blocks a saber with just his arms but immediately gets stabbed in the back so is this plastoid shit lightsaber proof or not

I don't know anything about the Royal Guards besides them having dope-ass armor and protect the Emperor. What else do they do?

>be elite guard of an evil master of dark magicks
>spend every available minute training for when your master sends you to fight
>spend every minute while standing guard thinking about fights
>every time someone walks into the room, hope your master asks you to fight them
>instead your master keeps using the hologram system, and its no fun to fight holograms
>or he just chokes them to death himself, robbing you of the chance to fight
>finally someone kills your master
>consider joining them because clearly they are the successor to the throne
>but this is your first chance to fight someone in years
>try your Bareknuckle Forearm Unbeatable Block Technique
>die

Being a Praetorian Guard is suffering.

Some energy weapons have parity with lightsabers. The guard droids in the prequels had similar weapons

>prequels had fucking electric spears that were able to deal with lightsabers
>emperor guards on VI had some stupid batons they never had a chance to use against a Jedi on-screen
>vibroblades on EU materials

yeah, 100% new and weird weapon concept, looks nothing like other stuff in the universe

They had a special martial art and trained as 2 men teams. The elite of the elite. If the movie was logic, one of them would beat rey to pulp bare handed

Why not, they were too good fighting 2 force users

Nice grammar, faggot.

>one of them would beat rey to pulp bare handed
but Rey is a woman, so she can beat 4 of them at the same time.

>Some energy weapons have parity with lightsabers. The guard droids in the prequels had similar weapons

Everyone is butthurt about the KoR not being in this movie because MUH MYSTERY BOXES.

JJ will have them in the next movie like they were in the TFA flash back scene. Kylo will go wake them up from stasis or something

I fucking loved that shit in KOTOR

If we were speaking of Mara Jade, she would be able to face a pair of them. But Rey has no reason to be that skilled. These movies shit on old lore so hard..

They're clearly building up to her being the entire Light Side of the Force contained in one individual. Like after Luke cut himself off from the Force and Kylo and Snoke are severely distorting the Dark Side, the Light Side got bottlenecked in one person, like some kind of Force immune response to excessive dark energy. That seemed to be the implication of the "dark rises and light rises to meet it" line.

>The Praetorian Guards boasted an arsenal of melee weapons[7] that were high-tech versions of unpowered analogs found in primitive societies across the galaxy, such as long vibro-axes, curved single-bladed swords—with an electro-plasma energy filament running along the blade's edge[10]—flailing Bilari electro-chain whips, and heavy double-bladed polearms that could also be separated into[7] dagger-like single-bladed weapons to adjust to any battle scenario.
damn thanks wookiepedia

now tell me about breasts
>Breasts were the mammary glands of mammalian species and some reptomammals, and were normally a distinguishing feature of the female of the species. Males did have breasts, but they were far less developed than their female counterparts due to the sexual dimorphism.

>train for whole life
>killed by girl who is using force for less that a week
>and a guy who was defeated by girl

>Your master dies at the hands of two Jedi
>They kill like 50% of you
>Not going "You know what, is not worth it"
Why?

>JJ will have them in the next movie
>hoping that Jew Jew will ever unveal a mistery in his productions
dont hope in that user, you will be disappointed for the third time

Any Basques here?

>Armors sustain damage from a lightsaber like nothing or are simply cut in half like they were butter depending on the tension of the scene
Ryan is a genius

why do their helmets look like short circumcised dicks

>They're clearly building up to her being the entire Light Side of the Force contained in one individual. Like after Luke cut himself off from the Force and Kylo and Snoke are severely distorting the Dark Side, the Light Side got bottlenecked in one person, like some kind of Force immune response to excessive dark energy. That seemed to be the implication of the "dark rises and light rises to meet it" line.

Not true at all. At the end of the movie we see one of those stupid slave kid of the casino planet use the force to ull a broom into his hand.
So there already are more force user thn Rey and Leia, and they wont kill th little kiddo for that theory.

I don't recall that kid using the force.

> Why are them as strong as a lightsaber?
They're lightspears.

Yes. A pretty valid point. But its is also a new thing, that whole idea of force will to balance itself. In the old lore, there were many times one side was stronger, and only the skill and dedication of some could reverse things. If now this auto balance is a thing, we will have random spawning of super heroes/villains fighting for no reason but the will of the force. Plotwise, its terrible. It closes a lot of possibilities in term of storytelling. Well, i may be wrong but thats how i see things.

This bothered me a lot. Fucking hacks, ruined MY starwars!

Fuck off ETA

most people dont, because it was only just for 20 cm, but he did, and then posed with that broom like a jedi.
oviously the movie try to tell that everyone is a jedi if they want, everyone is special
so, because of that, in SW now no one is special anymore.

>Yes. A pretty valid point
not really, look at this:

>we see one of those stupid slave kid of the casino planet use the force to ull a broom into his hand.


no, no we didn't. He grabbed the broom, started sweeping, and then held it up like a sword.

Watch the scene again you son of a bitch, the broom flies to his hand.

I'm laughing so hard right now. Rian cut so many plot points that I wouldn't be surprised if that were true This.

Maybe. Maybe not. As a matter of facts, there were some shit in EU, but a lot of it also was great and sticked to the rules. It was a huge meal with delicious and disgusting things, and you could make a selection.
Now that disney rules, i am not sure there are rules anymore. I think we are in a long ride of "jedi of the carribeans"...
I really think the new trilogy should have been built around Mara Jade , just changing the fact she marries Luke and not following the books exactly, since M.Hamill is too hold and books would be spoilers. We would have had a lot more opportunities to explore and a real female lead.

Thank you OP, I was gonna make a thread but now I don't have to.

I'm cool with the weapons thing, even if you haven't any knowledge of EU stuff we've seen this before in the movies, Grievous' guards had staff weapons that could resist and block lightsabers. Go see the Clone Wars cartoon for some good fights with those guys too, they were programmed to fight Jedi.

I'm more interested in the armour, we definitely saw the guards block some glancing blows with their forearms. However piercing strikes or heavier attacks were quite easily dispatching them. Maybe whatever material it is, it's not entirely impervious to the lightsaber but the forearm vambrace had thicker protection for this very purpose.

That fight was fucking great in the cinema, I loved it.

Kekd pretty hard

Are people blind or what?
know i know why some people liked this movie, they were watching the smarphones during the projection, not the movie
fucking "turn your brain off" meme

Not him. But I remember as well. It was very brief and subtle.

Someone mentioned their armor is able to deflect slashes but a stabbing attack is able to penetrate their armor, similar to how real armor works.

It would have been pretty sweet to see these elite badasses who trained every day actually defeat these newbs and throw a curveball of somekind or let the protags run away. Maybe even have one of them just toss his weapons to the side and fisticuffs kylo just to prove a point.

But le gurl power

>That fight was fucking great in the cinema, I loved it.
i think you didnt paid attention on what was going on there, because half the time the guards in background are just running and jumping around without reasons
there is eve a moment when Kylo nail his sword into ground and the guard sword passes thrugh it without being blocked or being cutted in half

Probably cortosis plates. In old lore, it was impervious to lighsabers.

>What are they?
Vibroblades, or something similar. They're made of or at least alloyed with lightsaber resistant metals that protect them from extreme heat.
>Why are they as strong as a lightsaber.
They aren't, they can't cut through metal in the same way as lightsabers. All they can do is clash with energy blades without being instantly severed.

>similar to how real armor works
except for the fact that lightsaber arent like real armor, they doesnt have a cutting edge and a pointy head, they are a blob of plasma, they cut things because they melt them
so if an armor can resist a slash, its even easier that it can resist a stab, because there is less area contact between armor and weapon, so less heat and less damage done to the armor.

I don't mind their designs, but couldn't they have made their armor look less like cheap plastic and more like actual armor?

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Why didnt reylo go for their unarmored legs?

I mean. I agree with you. And I hated the movie. But it seems like they at least tried to make the armor somewhat realstic? Maybe they just retconned the physics behind lightsabers.

Because the plot required them to fight like idiots so it could be more of a spectacle.

>mfw reading this and thinking of the one who got shredded by that pit

He didn't deserve that.

The fact that you can barely speak English says all it needs to about why you don't understand this weapon.

I understand they will make shit-ton of toys of them, but did they have to make them look like giant cheap-ass toys?
the costumes look like that was the main concern (the weapons especially)

>Stabbing attacks penetrating armor.
Not from anything smaller and lighter than a full length spear driven into someone from a galloping horse. Real armor would make you practically invulnerable from anything but blunt force trauma or a good poke through the eye-slit. If a lightsaber can punch into these guy's curriases then a good blaster should also, and that means this bulky movement encumbering vision restricting shit is literally worthless.

Did Supreme Leader Soy have a grudge against these poor fucks?

They legit had more character than any of the other new people introduced. When I saw one of the guards rush to block a swipe and save his comrade it felt like the only real moment in the entire fucking film.

>Did Supreme Leader Soy have a grudge against these poor fucks?
he just like to have some dildos around him, just in case

The one on the far left has been used by donnie yen. youtube.com/watch?v=n4dFp6BGd3I