Can we get a thread cataloging the worst mistakes Rian Johnson made in TLJ?

Can we get a thread cataloging the worst mistakes Rian Johnson made in TLJ?

I'll start:
>Yoda puppet in a movie with no other puppet characters but myriad CGI characters, totally breaking the immersion.

Bobby Lee as Finn's love interest

Creating Vice Admiral Holdo and instead not having Leia sacrifice herself. It would have been perfect, Kylo Ren could have seen it happen and had an epiphany about his parents (and that they're gone), there wouldn't be any more uncanny valley Leia and it would have been a good send-off.

This is a solid point. But the whole chase plot wouldn't work with Leia so it doesn't really matter either way. Rian is a lousy writer.

Generally the comedy and meta jokes ruined it for me. I already made a thread about the salt line annoying me. It was bullshit. "THIS ISN'T HOTH EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS JUST LIKE HOTH SALT AMIRITE GUISE". Fuck Rian or whoever it was that put that line in there.

Ive got a gen 1 yoda puppet. How nuch is it worth

Shit

There weren't any other puppet characters in ESB though.

Wait, that was actually a puppet? That explains a bit. Must have been a response to the backlash of all the CGI.

Taun Tauns, the giant space slug, the various droids, the mynocks, the Imperial space probe.

Having Luke's failure be fear and not anger.

>if you insist Luke become a hermit
>if you not gonna bother showing the knight sof Ren

have Luke kill the knight in anger for the destruction of his school before he realized they were his students (masks). Then distraught at killing younglings like his father he goes off to Ireland...

>force ghosts turning physical seemingly whenever they feel like it

The movie's existence

Some porgs were puppets
For example the one with the nest in the Falcons hallway

No gratuitous 30 minute scene of Finn penetrating Rose with his BBC, and watching her vagina goop grow more and more thick with each orgasm

That space slug is the best damn hand puppet ever.

Oh okay I assumed you wouldn't count those, seeing as Canto Bight had at least one large and one small puppet.

>>Yoda puppet in a movie with no other puppet characters but myriad CGI characters, totally breaking the immersion.

errrm

I'm actually kind of mindfucked that they spent the money on one of these when they had the CGI foxes looking so good

I feel completely the opposite. They spent all that time making a beautiful fox puppet and then replaced it with a CGI lynx. I didn't see a single shot of a puppet fox so please let me know if I'm wrong.
Also, why did all of the animals hide in the only place on the planet that was under attack?

Yoda was a puppet? You sure?

entire thing was entry level tropes loosely held together by a star wars veneer

- the dialogue, three lines were repeated verbatim
- literal repeat of the apprentice-kills-master-but-maybe-intended motif
- holdo with the ultra predictable redemption
- crait
- fuel
- hyper ram
- jarring merch push with the hobbit-tier creatures
- canto bight: harry potteresque casino royale
- just a weak story arch in general, but the just-out-of-range trope was very bad and an artificial plot device
- why didnt a destroyer just FTL in front of the cruiser?
- hugs
- luke
- rey
- finn STILL being used to perpetuate the black man stereotype, shouting dumb ass one liners. have some self respect, boyega.

it only barely even felt like star wars. this rendition made it painfully obvious that it's a children's action movie franchise milking machine that will only get worse. Star Wars is dead.

Rey just being some bitch. Yeah, yeaj, yeah, I know it's cool anyone can be a jedi but I already knew that and this IS the skywalker saga so it should end with a fucking skywalker (not a solo) as the damn protagonist!

lost

>Luke's character
>island scenes were awful
>completely failed B plot
>universe destroying logic in hyperspace ramming
>tons of things set up in The Force Awakens completely abandoned and thrown in the trash, Luke's map pointless?, knights of ren?, Rey a nobody despite all the hints in TFA? Bobafettify Phasma despite clear setup? lightsaber subplot abandoned?
>plethora of awkward out of place scenes that don't fit into Star Wars such as annoying social commentary about "veganism" and "animal cruelty", milking a giant sloth thing etc.
>basic logical issues with character motivations, why keep a secret for no reason?
>disrespect of classic characters, Luke, Admiral Akbar, Leia

this movie is so fucking dense with problems, I don't think there's a single scene in the movie that doesn't have some sort of pointed out issue, I think most people say the intro is fine?

I honestly think that the script is so poorly conceived that nothing in it is redeemable.

>island scenes were awful

jesus fucking christ man.... re-evaluate your life now.... or just end it

>uncanny valley Leia
she filmed all her scenes before dying

>two ugly non-whites hooking up
That's somehow a bad thing?

>no other puppets.

Ok, user. There were animatronics, which are robotic puppets. Post pics of things you thought were cgi. I bet your autismal faceblindness bleeds over to not being able to tell the difference.

Made from original molds, puppeteered by Frank Oz from under the set.

>most powerful force user in the series can't sense a rusty old lightsaber turning around on a metal chair arm right next to him
What the fuck was that all about?

I think other user meant they'll be using a stand-in cgi Leia in 9, and killing her in 8 would've prevented that. I guess he hasn't heard that they've stated Leia won't even appear in 9. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe he really is autistic enough to think she was CGI in 8.

It's like how when you're jerking it to anime, and you don't notice the doorhandle to your room turning until it's too late.

Hyperspace ramming. Retroactively ruined every single space battle in the series.

I honestly don't think that can be emphasized enough - for the sake of a single "epic" moment for some shitty unlikable character, Johnson blew apart the entire logic of how warfare works in the Star Wars universe. There is no plausible explanation that can explain or excuse this.

They should have somehow took down the shields before ramming the Supremacy, even then it should never have been done at light speed.
Also wtf fuel in star wars.

>REEEEE Yoda puppet

alt-right faggots will complaing about literally everything

Animals are stupid. They run to the next cave when in fear

>a single ship destroys the entire First Order fleet + half of Snoke's ship by using light speed to ram into Snokes ship

Okay so why did no one ever sacrifice one ship to destroy both Death Stars then?

Ummmmmmm sorry sweetie but Last Jedi was to smart for you

> Complains when Yoda became a CGI character in the prequels
> Complains when he's back to being a puppet again.

U wot m8?

Unironically this. Only casual Star Wars "fans" (retarded normalfags) and alt-right shitlords (also famously retarded) are complaining about this film so it checks out.

Opening bombing run was pretty fun/moving, that's mainly it

It's just that the puppet was bad. IT looked good in the OT

Go eat your Christmas dinner, Rian.

Maybe your family are the only people left who don't hate you.

I equate this to Fox’s Quicksilver scenes. His presence in DoFP and Apocalypse completely negate the need for anyone else to do anything. Singer had to find ways to gimp Quicksilver or just write him out completely in order for the plot to continue.

I don't have a family, user.
Sup Forums is the only family I got.

the entire movie is a failure and i'm usually the one finding few good things even in worst flicks. tlj is one of the very worst movies i have ever seen

The last jedi not only ruins all future STAR WARS movies, it also retroactively ruins the past films and makes them all look like idiots.

>A New Hope - "Sir we've worked out the final plan for the assault on the death star and it will be risky and cost many lives but it migh-" "Just Hyperspace-Ram it"

>Empire - "Sir the troops are ready for the ground assault on Hoth, walkers are ready to deploy" "Just Hyperspace-Ram the shield generator from orbit then Hyperspace-ram the rebel base. Boom. All the rebels will be dead before they can evacuate, war is over, and we never had to do a ground assault"

>Jedi - "Sir they built a new death star and it's even bigg-" "Just Hyperspace-Ram it" "But sir it's surrounded by a shield from the Endor moo-" "Just hyperspace ram the endor Moon until you take out the shield generator, Ewoks are collateral damage, then hyperspace ram the new death star"

>Phantom Menace - "Annakin you have to take out that droid controller" "Just hyperspace ram it"

>Rogue One - "We have to take down that shield generator!" "Just hyperspace ra- actually you know what were going to just hyperspace ram the death star anyway so we don't even need these stupid plans. Lets get out of here everybody."

>TFA - My god they built an even BIGGER death sta-" "Just hyperspace ram it"

From now on, in every star wars movie ever made, every single time there is a massive fleet, large base or battlestation everyone watching will be thinking. "Why don't they just hyperspace-ram it". Johnson did this to the entire star wars cinematic universe, forever, for the sake of a ten second shot that "looked cool".

I have 130 IQ (tested three times so far) and I like TLJ. It is a post-modern deconstruction of the Star Wars' take on the monomyth and traditional Jungian archetypes set in an internally inconsistent world reminiscent of the best works of Kafka. People are unironically too dumb to understand the deep beauty of TLJ.

Sith Lords have a hubris problem.

>>Yoda puppet in a movie with no other puppet characters but myriad CGI characters, totally breaking the immersion.

The casino was full of practical creatures. I didn't like the movie either but don't twist things to lies just because you hated the film.

I know it's been said many times before, but it can't be overstated:
Why not just Hyperspace Ram the Death Star? Why even bother making a Death Star when you could Hyperspace Ram a planet?

it's worse than that

why even build a death star?

Yoda's puppet was never good
The ears were terrible, the movements were stiff, it was very clearly a puppet, it felt unnatural and out of place

even CGI yoda looked more real and natural

>Johnson did this to the entire star wars cinematic universe, forever, for the sake of a ten second shot that "looked cool".
Ya it's called being BASED

Prequel babies can't understand this and think there has to be a big power lvl duel.