Was Luke butchered in TLJ?

Was Luke butchered in TLJ?

Yes. Good God, yes. I'd go as far as to say irreparably.

PRETTY MUCH

No.

Yes, the man that believed that Darth Vader could be redeemed went to kill his nephew because he had Darkseid tendencies. He went off to an island to die because he made a mistake, attempted youngling murder aside, Luke wouldn't just give up.

I would forgive the movie EVERYTHING, if not for this scene.

Absolutely. One of the worst character assassinations ever.

No, he wasn't even in it

Only to kids and plebs.

He tried so hard to do the right thing, but one moment of weakness broke him. The pressure of saving the galaxy twice (many more times if you consider the EU) meant that the minute he faltered over Ben, he let the entire universe down. Everything he had worked for in the OT was all for naught - his sister's son was lost to the dark side, and he knew he would prove a worse threat than Vader and Palpatine combined. So he left. Partly because he was human and ashamed, partly because he knew another mistake would rob the galaxy of something greater than one man: the enduring myth of the heroic Jedi. They needed something to believe in more than they needed him. His failure (at least in his human, and fallible mind) was too great a risk if he should make another mistake. Half of him left to save himself, half of him left to save the galaxy a third time by keeping that small spark of hope alive. Better to die a hero than kill a myth.

And yet he returned. He risked the legend of Luke in one last attempt to kindle that spark. He put it all on the line one last time in the hope he would not fail. He remembered Yoda's words, and realized there is no "try" when it comes to being a hero. He lit a fire under those who still believed in him, and he did it on his own terms: without risking a chance to fall to anger and hurt or kill Ben. Not only that, he stayed true to his own word to die on the island the Jedi were born. And so, by staying true to himself, and out of love for any humanity left in Ben, his final strategy went into action. We still have one more movie to see if his actions ultimately save Ben (I have a feeling they will), but more importantly, the galaxy saw not what Jedi were capable of, but what hope could do. He was born a man, but died a legend. The truth is different from myth, but myth endures - sometimes in spite of truth.

"ideal" makes it a mouthful, just "character arc" or even "arc" would work better

i think its reasonable for Luke to consider it.

i think its ridiculous to pretend he wouldn't chase after kylo and try to fix it.

Yes.
It's not even funny in a 'wow this is fucked up' kind of way. It's just macabre and sad.

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yes. the fact that he didn't actually wield a lightsaber at all pisses me the fuck off.

dont care about jake skywalker he was a bugman cuck

Only if you are a brainlet star wars fan.

This.
Luke found out that the most evil man in the galaxy was his father, a man who murdered scores of children, hundreds of Jedi, and who fucking knows how many rebels. Then he proceeded to fucking turn him good. Screwing up with one student wouldn't have meant shit to him mentally

They barely used him in TLJ, could have cut down the whole casino planet plot and added more Luke to the movie.

> Han 30 years later is still a broke ass scoundrel
> Leia 30 years later is still a rebel leader
> Luke 30 years later is still a fumbling wanabee jedi that needs guidance from his betters.

I dunno, I feel like they followed the pattern.

the scene that isnt the actual truth just how ben sees it from his point of view?

>Was Luke butchered in TLJ?

YES

I would even forgive this scene (or the truth version) if then he decided to set things right and go hunt down snooki, redeem ben.

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No. Luke was always a pessimistic, impatient fucker. People need to actually watch the original trilogy again.

Thats Jake Skywalker. The real Luke has a Jedi academy to manage as a Jedi Master

Hi, Jake.