Was there ANY fucking good reason they didn't go with the "Rey falls to the dark side" route with the story...

Was there ANY fucking good reason they didn't go with the "Rey falls to the dark side" route with the story? Do you realize how fucking amazing the story could have gone if in Episode 8 she falls prey to it near to the end and we end the film with her looking like pic related and episode 9 becomes a reversal with Kylo trying to bring her back to the light since he's such a conflicted character with the light/dark shit? I don't know how that story would work out, but holy hell would it have been interesting to see. Much more than the shit we got

I mean come on man.

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plus Darth Rey is hot as fuck

Fans had already guessed it as a possibility. You can't be groundbreaking and original if someone has the same idea as you. If anyone's to blame really it's the fans for voicing their opinions on character arcs.

Because women can do no wrong

whats on the dark side, kylos dick?

Rey really is a perfect fall to the dark side candidate. She's impulsive and emotional as shit and hasn't had any proper training besides that tiny shit with Luke which he basically bailed on. She even went down to the dark side cave and shit...I honestly thought the movie was hinting this was what was going to happen. Hell even the movie trailer was her asking about how lost she is and needs someone to show her the way before Kylo reaches out a hand to her. It should have happened and them redeem her in Episode 9

But it's fucked now

"Who cares"

By Rian Johnson

really huge failure of a movie, all TFA plots removed and dead, literally no plot for 9episode. What a shit show.
Only way they can try to salvage this is do "10years laters after events of episode 8"

>fans see potential in a concept that's just thrown into the wind with no explanation (Rey's stupid crazy with the force) and they come up with better explanations to it than a director
>"PSSHHH psych dumb nerd the force is like yin yang and shit and your parents are nobody and you mean nothing lmao"
If Jar Jar didn't throw concepts out just to not explain or elaborate upon them people wouldn't need to theorize in the first place. The Mystery Box™ is not what made the original trilogy special and JJ does not get Star Wars. Neither does Rian, apparently. And even if they did have the slightest inkling of what they were doing, would you really think Disney would let them do anything interesting? They're in this for franchise rights and to sell toys.

You complain about a mary sue, yet you want to write in a scenario where a mary sue or gary stu has to be written in the 3rd movie of a trilogy to resolve the problem. who the fuck is supposed to kill Ren AND Rey?

>who the fuck is supposed to kill Ren AND Rey?
Luke

i thought rian explained it okay. there was an extremely powerful force user (ben). when he intruded on rey's mind it awoke her latent connection with the force. her strength now matches his,

but who is buying these toys? every character is bland and boring, the designs are just pathetic. Only interesting character are literally Kylo, Knights of Ren(which are MIA) and the Red dudes.

For how bad prequels were, there toys probably had amazing success, so many notable sith and jedi, padme, list goes on..

Ideas like that is why Luke had to die for no good reason.

>Was there ANY fucking good reason
no, the reason isn't good
the reason is the same reason rey doesn't fail in general
it's because feminists are in charge and they think strong female character = super powerful and never faltering (but never call her a mary sue you sexist!)

T b h I was looking forward to Rey being revealed as a gray jedi

Because the force is female my dude. Literally the reason they didn’t is because they have an agenda to push, or at least Kathleen does.

No such thing. If you're remotely "gray" you've rejected Jedi teachings. Jedi a shit.

This. How was based Rian supposed to SUBVERT our expectations if we had already expected everything logical/decent/interesting/compelling?
He had no choice but to make the movie shit :^)

>this faggot is getting his own Star Wars trilogy to fuck with after ruining Episode VIII
No justice in this world

That was never going to happen.

Kylo Ren would have to redeem himself after seeing his mom die or something.

>Was there ANY fucking good reason they didn't go with the "Rey falls to the dark side" route with the story?

>Disney
>Current Year
>Female Villain

Don't hold your breath.

Best route would be if she actually turned to the dark side but not as a sith i.e. she is a dark side user but a good guy

the crazy thing he made Looper and Brick, which were pretty great movies, dont remember if they had any sjw agendas..cant really trust nobody these days

how about a non force user do something creative to take out a force user for once

I just don't fucking get why they couldn't make Snoke be Darth Plagueis. I mean everyone was expecting it, but it would be a pretty decent backstory that explains why he's powerful and the supreme leader.

Gray Jedi are awesome
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Didn't Thor Ragnarok come out this year?

All your fanfiction is retarded

>who the fuck is supposed to kill Ren AND Rey?

To me in an ideal scenario, Finn.
He was hinted to have some Force sensitivity, He was using the Light Sabre in TFA. Imagine a movie where he and Rey are being trained together, or he comes in later to join Rey in training, or Rey learns a bit and tries to teach Finn later on when they're on some adventure together. Whatever the situation Rey is clearly better at execution but she's cocky driven emotionally, where as Finn would be better at the self control aspects of the force (patience). And this movie, would have been a great place to watch their relationship falling apart. ANd not in some last minute 'OH shit how did we come to this' scenario. But a fight to try to save a friend from the dark side. And he loses. Then the last movie eventually having to give up on that hop of saving the people you care about and doing what's right for the galaxy. (Pretty much the opposite of everything Rose was talking about)

Literally who cares
No one would know who he is in universe. It would be bullshit fan bait.

>He was hinted to have some Force sensitivity, He was using the Light Sabre in TFA

Stop saying this.

No, it would be a logical explanation rather than the incredible ass pull JJ gave us. And I blame JJ, because he just HAD to rip of the OT

giv sith gf

Why? Am I wrong about, that?
Admittedly I haven't given The Force Awakens the number of rewatches I have other SW movies.

Literally the only real reply in this thread.

Agreed. What a load of bollocks.

If to you creating a new character is an asspull then you are lost

Disney Wars is, in and of itself, retarded fanfiction.

Darth Gremlinface

I watched episode 8 today and call me a numale soyboy SJW faggot, I LIKED IT!!!!!!!

I must agree tough that Luke didn't fought against Kylo in person was kinda shitty, and why was Luke's lightsaber blue, and not green?

also...
>Do you realize how fucking amazing the story could have gone if in Episode 8 she falls prey to it near to the end and we end the film with her looking like pic related and episode 9 becomes a reversal with Kylo trying to bring her back to the light since he's such a conflicted character with the light/dark shit? I don't know how that story would work out, but holy hell would it have been interesting to see
how would have that worked out in the first place?

It's almost like... There is such a character in the movie... Living on a faraway island

Would of been interesting, but I feel they would of needed more than three movies for it to be fleshed out properly. Sort of like how Anakins fall felt rushed in the prequels without the context of the clone wars cgi show.

>how about a non force user do something creative to take out a force user for once
Fucking this.

Ok

Because it was Anakins lightsaber you moron.

like some sort of homealone type traps?

Anakin's lightsaber broke on the Supremacy when Kylo and Rey fought over it

But Anakins first appearance really isn't about his struggle with the force at all. So you're shoving his struggle into two movies essentially. Where as Rey has a movie to establish doubt in or question her ability, which is what the first one did then a second to and third to watch her fall. As compared to Anakin who was very much a cute kid along for the ride in the first movie.

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I miss him. Thank you for making me want to replay this, I no longer have the time I had in the past.

Straight, white, men would've liked it and everything in the new Star Wars was done to prevent that.

Presumably they'd kill each other.

If Rey teamed up with Kylo, the entire film would be redeemed and I would forever suck Rians dick

you do realize Luke wasn't actually fighting right? He was using some sort of Force Projection battling Kylo. With that being said why would he still have his lightsaber after he rejected the Jedi way. The last image he had of a lightsaber was with Rey sparring/training...I'm sure you are smart enough to put the rest of the picture together.
If not, you are the brainlets Disney panders to.

Broomstick kid

I do like the idea of Rey killing/attempting to kill Kylo, but doing so because of the nature of the dark side and the natural replacement of master by student. The rest of the film could be them stomping the remnants of the republic, establishing some kind of Malak/Revan situation with them, which plays out as described above.

>He was using the Light Sabre in TFA.
you don't need to be a Jedi to use one, you know

I know, but I rather prefered Luke's green lightsaber
you know, the one he made, when he became a Jedi

man these games were awesome

that would've required skilled, creative writers, something lucasfilm lacks at the moment

she was a dark jedi at best

She was apprentice to at least one (possibly two, depending on choices) reigning Dark Lord of the Sith.

>Rey turns to the dark side
>Kylo redeemed back to the light
>resistance now has to take down a naturally force-superpowered, competant villain
>best hope is a fuck up who dropped out of training twice

>would you really think Disney would let them do anything interesting?
Letting Rian and Kathleen run their way through almost everything is actually pretty interesting... it's just that it's execution was awful.

marketing.

This is the right answer. I feel bad for not thinking of it.
You don't have to be. But to keep the Jedi alive in universe he seemed like the best option. I mean even if he beats them without any Force sensitivity fine. But you're still killing off the Jedi. Which I don't think anyone really wants in regards to future movies. Light Sabres toys and robe costumes sell

>tfw no fashy sith forbidden romance gf

Why live?

You just know the sex would be kinky and passionate as fuck.

EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED

I think it would be interesting if they switched places but neither of them fully went to the opposite side of the force. Kylo tries to redeem himself because he genuinely wants to save her, but he still feels the temptation of wanting revenge for being used (and presumably replaced) and discarded by Snoke, who realized Rey has greater potential. Rey, in turn, serves Snoke because he gives her a purpose but desperately resists falling fully to the dark side, as she knows what he has her doing is wrong.

Could make for a fairly interesting setup where you don't know where they'll ultimately end up

yes

let me just state, UNEQUIVOCALLY that a sith gf is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jedi gf
ZERO room for deb8 on this one folks

giv

yuck, not this whore

why are there so few aliens in the nu-wars?

Jedi gf
>Lays there like a log
>dry as fuck
>only does missionary
>cries after

Sith gf
>surprises you at home wearing your favorite outfit
>acts out any kinky scenario either of you can come up with
>tries to kill you immediately after you cum

hmmm

RUDE

>tries to kill you immediately after you cum

No room with all the new brave and strong women that have never been seen in this series before.