Black Mirror Season 4

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Old Thread: >New Consensus:

1. Hang The DJ
2. Black Museum
3. Crocodile
4. USS Callister
5. Arkangel
6. Metalhead

Hang the DJ overtook Black Museum. Do you agree?

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I agree that you are just making up the rankings based on your feelings.

no i just observe the threads and combine what the anons are posting

incorrect. I'm making up rankings to get people to disagree with them in order to market the show and netflix!

Yeah black museum felt forced and kinda try-hard. lots of stuff that's already been touched on in previous better episodes

wish more people appreciated metalhead

>Hang the DJ overtook Black Museum. Do you agree?

Hang the DJ is miles ahead of the other episodes.

Weakest season of the show by far. Brooker needs to start writing all the episodes himself again. Everything felt like a retread of either a previous episode or something that had been done before.

I posted a topic earlier about how the idea was so similar to a little indie flick I had seen years ago that I couldn't feel too impressed with the episode.

What the fuck is with all the happy endings?

This season does not leave me feeling empty and depressed. Black Mirror is supposed to be about the dark side of technology but this sheds only a positive light on it.

I don't really understand the point in Metalhead. Was that REALLY set in the same universe?

I don't think that all ep are on the same universe

>Crocodile
>Arkangel
>Metalhead
>Happy endings

wut

crocodile is 4th, callister is 3rd.

yeah but it has many inconsistencies. For example the car wasn't that old and the people seemed to be dead for not that long since they were apparently still stinking.

I think its some sort of amusement park similar to White Bear and the people playing control the dogs and shoot people for the lolz.

No.

Hang the DJ
Callister
Arkangel
Crocodile
Metalhead
Black Museum

The idea that the show has to take place in one consistent universe is stupid and I hope it doesn't hinder stories in future seasons

Maybe, although they usually go out of their way to reference other episodes to show they're interconnected.

Even 15 million credits which was probably the most dystopian, out there concept had it's porn channel namedropped

Someone pointed out last night that there was a point in time where it felt like Brooker was channeling Kaczynski's Neo-Luddite sentiment with the way the show would leave you feeling. I think after everyone raved about San Junipero last season it caused a marked shift in the writing approach.

Also, checked.

A fucking guinea pig? Really

Crocodile was a women getting justice rather than getting away with it.

Arkangel ending was expected - the implant had the opposite effect to that for which it was intended.

None of these episodes are like White Christmas or 15 Million Merits. Netflix producers made it American-friendly.

Season 4 was a blow to because it had references connecting all the episodes to the same universe all over the place. They SHOVED it in. It was really too much and over the top.

No, Black Museum is a masterpiece. The doctor part made it so much more than I could have hoped for.

1. Black Museum
2. Hang The DJ
3. USS Callister
4. Metalhead
5. Crocodile
6. Arkangel

bruh. set in the same universe as what?
the fuck make you think it was set in the same universe as some other thing? Black mirror is an anthology series.

ontop of that, metalhead is as simple as it gets. Its someone fighting for survival. that's it. no dialogue or morals or arcs. it's just a conflict boiled down to its most primative and brutal form. there's nothing to "not get"

christ, an easter egg doesnt mean its set in the same universe.There's star wars references in indiana jones. doesnt mean theyre the same universe.

It's crazy that SJ's ending was only superficially happy but it left everyone with a smile on their face and became the highest rated episode. Shows how superficial people like their entertainment to be.

Based Trashman saving season 4 with his Dr. Pain story

>the fuck make you think it was set in the same universe as some other thing?
because even throughout the older seasons they implemented subtle hints that everything takes place in the same universe. It were little fun easter eggs. Season 4 took it to an extreme and basically connected them all for no reason.

Mmm, yes. I remember it vividly...

Really like how they did the main characters fall in Crocodile.
The first death was just her as a passenger in a car. She wasnt involved at all. She even was against the idea of not calling for help and resisted.
Then she killed out of an impulsive "crime of passion", the next one was executing some girl who got tangled up, then it ended with her straight up hunting someone down.

Just smell this beer and listen to this song, it'll help you jog your memory

I refuse to believe they got anything out of the little bastard.

Episode works better if she gets away with it.

why didn't sarah just get back with trick

she tasted cock and wanted to explore the trucker cock carousel

Again, those are easter eggs my dude. Backround shit, interchangeable with anything else. Literally the only thing remotely supporting that anything takes place in the same universe is offhand references just made as easter eggs. theyve even said they're all seperate universes.

I love how she got the monkey and saved it as well in Black Museum. 10/10 episode

>Waldo stickers
>White Bear girl on the news
>Same porn show from 15 million credits
>same/similar technology showing up across different seasons
>Pig fucking PM is PM in multiple episodes
>Gaming company from Playtest in other episodes
>News ticker in hated in the nation announces the start of the men against first military programme

Come on dude, there's way too many things connecting the episodes and tech for it to just be brushed off as "easter eggs", they're clearly different points and societies in the same universe

>Black daughter of the murder dude is a LE HacKER GENIUS who can transplant human consciousness better than the tech expert and researchers

Getting real tired of this special snowflake shit in these episodes

>trying to hitchhike
>first truck driver picks her up
do americans really do this?

why did the indian chick offer the blond murderer the beer and music when blondie was inside a hotel room?

USS Callister -- Cookies idea repeated, first time, with an anti-white-male and hamfisted leftist-oppression-narrative-allegory twist. Torture of cookies was already brought to its logical conclusion in White Christmas, in the form of eternal torture; this simply portrays an even less effective and time-limited form of torture (since the captain will die and his computer be shut down or destroyed some day, and so the cookies wiped).

The Star Trek paraphernalia is entirely superficial: the episode, with its big budget, succeeds in the easy part of capturing the costumes, cinematography, voices, and various easily-copied surface tropes of Star Trek, in other words what is on the surface, but fails at capturing anything essential or substantial. The Star Trek background is only there to serve the shallow leftist allegory which lies at the heart of the episode.

Arkangel -- An interesting concept, but the episode misses many opportunities to explore it well. I wanted to see what the daughter would grow up to be if she had never had to see pain or suffering, for example. We have the one-sided message that over-protectiveness can drive your children away, but we hear nothing of the other side of the question, how under-protectiveness can ruin your children. The effects which the filth that the little girl is exposed to might have on her, for example, are never explored. Shoehorned predictable ending which could have been resolved by even a modicum of communication between the mother and the daughter. The resolution is forced.

Crocodile -- A typical narrative in which a regular person is driven to become a killer to protect their reputation. It has been done many times before, and the technology could have been taken out without changing the essence of the episode. It seemed rather tacked-on.

it wasn't just only the porn. The song in Crocodile is from 15 million Merits and the guy in the hotel says that a judge from 'Hot Shots' stayed in the Hotel. It was just too much and this shit went on throughout the season. Black dude in Black Museum reads a "15 million merits" Comic lol.

Honestly yeah the guinea pig felt a little much.

Not sure what would have been better. Having the memory tech be her downfall regardless in the form of some total stranger she never even thought of, or despite all her shit, her downfall being something unrelated to technology like a security camera or fingerprints.

why didn't the star trek characters attempt to expose meth damon IRL so he couldn't just get their DNA again from the the office?

because she knows that our sub-conscious picks up things we aren't immediately aware of such a smell or a subtle sound of a song throug a window

1. Hang the DJ
2. Black Museum
3. USS Callister
4. Arkangel
5. Crocodile
6. Metalhead

Metalhead felt like a shitty college film trying to be really artsy.

You can't watch Black Museum and say they aren't same universe lmao

Hang the DJ -- Cookies idea repeated, second time, although here the show breaks its own rule by not seeming to care that thousands of them are run through a simulation and killed at the end of it, simply to serve the purpose of a dating application. The ending is supposed to be happy, after all. Full of pornographic scenes and coarse badly-written dialogue. A degrading moral message insofar as it is implied that going through various sexual relationships and "trying out" different partners is a necessarily prerequisite to find your soul-mate; it is implied that the dating application is simply streamlining and speeding up this process and saving you the trouble of going through it yourself.

Metalhead -- Very dull. A robot dog with the ability to shoot people chases down a woman and eventually kills her. There is nothing else to it, and the ending with the teddy bears is hamfisted, maudlin, and ridiculous.

Black Museum -- Cookies idea repeated, third time. See comments on U. S. S. Callister. Very pornographic and vulgar. Leftist tropes abound: White man is the wicked villain as usual, ethnic minorities are heroes setting about to destroy him, innocent black man is wrongly convicted for murdering white woman etc. Consciousness-in-another-person idea is mildly interesting, insofar it shows how weak-knit and shallow most relationships are, although it did not deserve to be explored for even one third of the time it was, since the conclusions were so obvious. The pain-as-pleasure story was pure sensationalist trash.

I think they should have ended it with her having a hard time with her children after what she has done and having to cope with it.

You realise a human died in the first episode because of how he treated ai, right?

Some roastie literally murdered someone to keep photos of her in lingerie off the internet

So how did the girl in Arkangel run away at the end despite still having a GPS tracker in her head

How about instead of posting your bullshit personal opinions, we strawpoll it?

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The program was dissolved. Unlikely she could get that ipad thing repaired.

its not my bullshit personal opinion you bitch. Go away with your reddit polls

why do people think metalhead was artsy. just because it was in black and white? It was a suuuuper straightforward story, dont see how it was even remotely "artsy". It's easily the most primitive thing black mirror has done

the ipad used to tracker was was destroyed and the program went belly up so no way to repair it. guess she could try to have someone get some data out of the broken thing and rig something to track off of it

There was no reason whatsoever for it to be in black-and-white.

Rankings for best to worst episode.
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>There was no reason whatsoever for it to be in black-and-white.
It was because it's the only episode outside of the season 4 universe.

How did the guy extract the minds of his coworkers from their DNA?

From what I can get from the hamfisted shit in season 4, there is likely one consistent universe, the white christmas universe since it is the most kino and most technologically connected to other episodes. There are some episodes that seem to make no sense in this universe like Metalhead and 15MM, and seeing the comic for 15MM makes me think that these stories are fiction IN the white christmas universe, or less autistically simply unconnected episodes like filler arcs in an anime that have no bearing on the real plot (white christmas).

pls reddit, no steal my theory you cunts

Alternatively you could just vote on this And everyone can see the results immediately without having to wait for you

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nice try NSA

No they would have the guinea pig smell blood and play sounds of a hammer hitting a skull.

Also how did they manage to know that both the baby and the dad were dead so soon?

yes there was
It's because that technology "sees" the world in black and white, and also because it goes with the rough and sparse world and brutally simple story.
also they said it puts it in the tone of old horror/slasher movies like psycho

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its TECHNOLOGY bro aint gotta explain shit

You have the Hang the DJ message and moral completely backwards. It was a critique of dating culture in general and the idea that you have to "try out" multiple people. That's exactly what the "system" represents.

I just ASSUMED he got their personalities from the type of social media extraction tactic, sorta like in Be Right Back

But getting their memories is straaaaight bullshit

or do both, and that's only for the best episode.
There will be a lot more statistics this way.
or do neither

wait is hang the dj gud?

because i watched the first 10 minutes, got bored, and skipped it

Hang the DJ was a critique of cock carousel riding culture and dating apps in general, you moron. Re-watch the episode and pay attention to the sex scenes during one night scenes and the cinematography (negativity) associated with it. Do we have to spell it out for you?

Hang the DJ is conservative kino

Do you guys prefer episodes where the technology is more grounded (Shut Up and Dance, Nosedive), or really advanced (any of the 5+ episodes with sapient AI)?

>not a single vote for Crocodile or Arkangel

Interdasting

Was that gamer at the end of USS Callister Aaron Paul ??

Can someone explain to me WHY they think arkangel is a 10/10? I was waiting for the twist the entire episode and it just never came. I was confused as hell at the end. It was a total trainwreck. Bad acting, bad writing.

its a dumb way of polling

Yeah, in the role of a life time

I don't care honestly, as long as its well done and feels like an actual grounded and real world

yep

The best episode the technology is pretty grounded (Entire History of You).

We could literally do this today

Better than making up random rankings

nobody thinks Arkangel is 10/10 waht the fuck are you even saying

I was really into Black Museum until this point like what was even going on

Anyone else rewatching older episodes because they were actually good?

I was in a bunch of threads yesterday and people were all saying that Archangel was amazing, best episode, etc.

no that was Gamer691, King of Space

I like the ones where technology goes too far. Like Arckangel. The episode was bad but the technology from the episode could have been used to make a better story.

I did not like Crocadile either but the first thing that popped out to me was that the technology was not introduced for such a long time and was just kinda lame.

Yeah I just rewatched Men Against Fire and Be Right back. Such great episodes.

If I'm being honest:

Season 3 > Season 4 > Season 2 > Season 1

Season 2 > Season 1 = Season 3 > Season 4

Season 2 is perfect except for Waldo Moment. Season 1 weakest episode is National Anthem. Season 3 isn't that great but its enjoyable to watch compared to Season 4 which is just a shitfest.

Crocodile had that stupid fucking guinea pig, and that memory thing had no relevance otherwise.
Arkangel could have been interesting if every child had it and showed how that sort of tracking and censorship would affect their development on a wide scale, but instead it's just one mom being a helicopter parent. I was expecting her to activate some feature at the end to completely control the daughter, but no, the daughter just runs away. You could remove Arkangel from the plot completely and it would barely be any different.

I totally get that, but i personally didn't mind that about Crocodile because the technology was pretty irrelevant. It's more about this woman's insane decline, the technology is just a thing that allows it to progress, but not really a center point.

2 > 4 > 1 > 3
i fucking love be right back though. that cliff scene fucks me up.

The simulation-version of the girl has to "learn her lesson" by jading herself in the indulgence of her lust first. The dating application simply strips away what is implied to be otherwise normal and necessary behaviour.

was rewatching. who speeds in the park?

some angry Sup Forumsack because he spotted an interracial couple

More like "who uses that camera angle and suspects everyone watching to not expect the character to get run over"?

That's also a van, not a truck

since White Christmas was originally a special
1 = WC > 2 > 3 > 4

wasn't necessary because you know the story will turn bad

I dont know whats worse, him being in that 30 second role or me knowing his voice immediately as it came on.

well i can live with that. I group WC into S2 but yeah you are right. WC is peak Black Mirror.

It's not like he disguised his voice any.