What is even the point of these 2 now other than autistic shipping fuel? Is the barn shit even going anywhere?

What is even the point of these 2 now other than autistic shipping fuel? Is the barn shit even going anywhere?

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no

the characters they were and the arcs they should have had were derailed by Zuke and her autism

Its probably too late to save them

Peridot was there for the plot before her character was assassinated, so maybe she could go back to that.
Lapis is for porn

I wonder if the same writer behind Bubbline is the one writing Lapis and Peridot episodes now.

The barn is where characters go to die

>the characters they were and the arcs they should have had were derailed by Zuke and her autism
This, but it's not Zuke's fault, entirely. Sugar should have known better than to allow her to run wild for as long as she did. Boarder driven or not, nothing gets done without the showrunner's approval. There's plenty of blame to go around.

Topaz are canonical incest lesbians and they will be put in the Barn. Screencap this.

rebecca became jealous that people found the gems she didn't create more popular than the ones she did
and yes the team mostly created peridot without her and whoever his name posted pictures of Lapis's design years ago
so now they are in exile in the barn and are literally irrelevant to the plot. Hence why all the shit went down in the last episode and Steven didn't think once to fucking call them WHEN THEY BOTH HAVE CELLPHONES
oh but don't worry guys, LARS IS GOING TO HOMEWORLD WITH STEVEN

Bubbline actually has build up and development though. Lapis and Peridot's friendship develops almost entirely offscreen.

I fucking hate Lars.

What if this arc resolves with the Crystal Gems using the ancient gem colonizer ship to rescue Stephen, and Lapis and Peridot never show up at all?

I don't like SU but I see art of these 2 and I think they look cute together

Can someone point me out to the episodes were they "engage"?

everyone hated lars until the last episode
the entire fandom hated him more than any other townie
but now that he's going to homeworld they have done a 180
because god forbid they admit the plot is fucking retarded
I wouldn't put it past them. Also this he's either escaping back to his homeworld or they are coming to rescue him

either way I don't see how any outcome doesn't lead to homeworld following them and the diamonds just fucking glassing the planet for the death of their sister

that's fair

I still think more of the blame goes to Zuke, she pulled the trigger, Sugar could have stopped her and should have, but that doesn't change the fact that Zuke held the gun and fired it

It only had build up and development after 3 episodes in different seasons. The whole backstory was made up to satisfy the desire of shippers.

>what is even the point of the two best characters in the show?

Everything. Any episode is easily made ten times better simply by having them make an appearance.

I remember when the barn was just a one off location for the Space Race episode. That episode was pretty good

I still wish Marceline could have been Finn's crush. The two matched perfectly before they invented a character for the sole purpose of dating Finn

>blames Sugar for being a narcissist

nice try Zuke, I would ask if you have better things to do than shit post here but I don't think you do

The point is you can track their relationship progression, and understand why they became close again. We don't get to see any of that process for Lapis and Peridot, so there is no reason to be invested in it.

>but now that he's going to homeworld they have done a 180
What? How can that be? Lars hasn't grown or developed at all. He's still a selfish, annoyingly-voiced teenager.

Why the hell is Perdot wearing a bowtie?

>We don't get to see any of that process for Lapis and Peridot
We got several episodes of them being friends. Isn't it normal in Western media and real life for friends to decide to fool around and start dating on a whim?

Please respond to this post.

because the fans get off on redemption arcs
what the fuck does Sugar do for the show if not for the writing? She doesn't animate, she doesn't do the background art
because Sugar wanted to set the new record for how much you could flanderize a character

MEME DORITO

Why would Lapis and Peridot date?

You posted this in /sug/ last week and it didn't work there either. Lapis was an OC of Sugar's from before the show was even picked up and Peridot is her Invader Zim OC donut steel

Try again

Just stream the entire series if you don't want to DL everything.

>We got several episodes of them being friends.
There's Barn Mates, and the next time we see them in Beta they're super close.

you got some proof for that or are you going to pull shit out of your ass? Also:

>he posts in /sug/

Because they're both lonely women living in isolation with a baby "pet" to take care of who get off on gay Canadian daytime teenaged soap operas?

But its OOC for homeworld gems to care abput fashion.

But I don't want to see the entire series and either way I would've streamed it because that's what I always do.

I just would like to know some episode names where they appear together.

Yeah I sure love seeing an annoying talking gremlin and a bitchy fallen water angel with no chemistry.

So why would they date?

I really want Aquamarine to reveal herself to be a fusion of a Peridot and a Lapis and then Peridot tries to rape Lapis but Lapis is like "Nah bitch you can't handle me" and then Peridot turns villain again.

because for some reason people think fooling around with a friend and dating is a natural step in friendship
>Isn't it normal in Western media and real life for friends to decide to fool around and start dating on a whim?
Usually only college kids who are jacked up on hormones and know they won't see their friends post graduation anyway

by that logic me and my roommate should start dating

we are both lonely single men who love dumb cartoons

except oh wait that isn't how it works, I feel sorry for anyone who lives with someone like you apparently living together = dating in your mind

Peri is too autistic to fall in love though she cant even understand friendship.

>we are both lonely single men who love dumb cartoons
user...

Did you even read what you just wrote? That sounds awesome.

Their relationship is handled very poorly in the show. Just enjoy the fan art like I do. If you really want to watch, check out Barn Mates and the first half of Beta.

>2 episodes

Is this really what SUfags have been shitposting over for months?

The thing is user.. Lapis is fucking boring and Peridot is ANNOYING.

because in anime characters who dont like each other get together so it has to be in su too

Lapis is not an angel. Sugar thought wings looked cool(they look stupid on humans) so rather than have Lapis levitate she makes her fly. Aqua is the only design that looks good with wings.

There's also The New Crystal Gems and Room for Ruby.

Added to the backlog, thanks user.

Gems dont date eachother only mentally ill sick fucks like Ruby and Sapphire do that crap.

>Never allowed to be around during major parts of the show such as the zoo infiltration and this current arc
>When Peridot has the most up-to-date Homeworld info and can competently pilot the (now gone) ship with ease
>When Lapis is probably the strongest gem on the team
I understand that allowing all gems to have screen time in an 11 minute episode may be a bit of a clusterfuck at times, and that the original CGs should take priority over the barn memers, but I'm still annoyed about what they're doing to them.

Only because of poor execution. If they actually get some time to shine instead of always being shoved in a barn they'd be amazing. The characters themselves aren't really the problem.

You're not taking care of a baby together though, unlike Peridot and Lapis.

Too bad that's never gonna happen.

>no more ptsd loner bitch, but nice to Steven, Lapis
I'm fine wither Peridot and the concept of shipping Lapis, but they ruined Lapis to get there.

>He's still a selfish, annoyingly-voiced teenager.
At least he's not a lying rapist like Sadie.

Also fuck Onion, he is the most annoying shit on this show besides steven.

wait sadie is a rapist wtf i need a quick rundown

It's funny how obviously better Sugar is than the usual storyboarders.

>they'd be amazing.
Lapis is a massive fucking cunt who had one moment of character growth and then immediately reversed the moment she interacted with anyone besides steven.

Periodot is just tumblr bait. She's small, useless, and constantly complaining she can definitely be a gem too.

What about Topaz?

that time she trapped Steven and Lars on an island with her so she could get in Lars' pants

Kept Lars and Steven on an island where they had to hunt for fish to live for a week while knowing where the exit was just so she could stockholm Lars into fucking her.

>wait sadie is a rapist wtf
On the episode where Lars, Steven, and Sadie are on the island, Sadie lies to Steven and Lars because she desperately wanted that Lars dick. She tricks them into thinking they're trapped on an island forever and uses that to pork Lars(show only shows kissing/makeouts because ew heterosexuals).

And then it's never, ever brought up again and Lars is treated like shit whenever he's cold to Sadie.

They are just friends not lovers you degenerate.

All the the townies are fucking terrible except Peedee and Greg.

ooooohh yeahhhhhhh i forgot about that

They're not dating. Fusion is used for military purposes only, and only between similar gems. Rubies do it too.

Lapis is the only good gem

Sadie and Lars should be friends not lovers just friends it awkward seeing this shit.

The island adventure should have been Sadie trying to make Lars have a good time.

Gem Harvest, too

I actually like Sour Cream and the two 'cool kids', they're just boring.

Greg is probably the only character whose got his god damn shit together.

So did the writers, since Lars never gets salty about it besides in that episode, and then the writers have been shoehorning them as a couple(latest episode even had him half-admitting he loved his rapist.

>Peridot was there for the plot before her character was assassinated

people who talk about Peridot's character arc as assassination or degeneration completely mystify me when the whole point of stranding her on earth in the first place was to demonstrate how HW's colonial logic only functions when each individual gem is fixed within its system: take one out, and they quickly realize the thing they were told is valueless without colonization is actually valuable, and they lose their authoritarian disposition. Peridot's character arc not only makes sense for her as an individual gem dispossessed from HW society, but is thematically essential to the entire show. People who thought it was a degeneration of her character should probably therefore drop the show because they're obviously not here for its thematic goals.

Men can't be raped ,':^)

She went from a non sadistic sociopath to an annoying childish piece of shit.

The truest shit.

>imperialism is bad but without it people turn into useless neets but that's good

nah

>only good gem
That's why she spent thousands of years as a fucking mirror.

She wanted to twist Lars into her little boyfriend by forcing/tricking him (and Steven) to live on an island for days and manipulating him.

>She went from a non sadistic sociopath to an annoying childish piece of shit.

if you want to watch shows about "sociopaths" you should probably watch some 2edgy4u garbage shonen, because no one in SU is that one dimensional.

Sugar made her too OP(on earth) so she cant use her since all fights would ve resolved quickly.

Most people aren't mad at her redemption, they're mad at what happened afterwards. She became a one-note meme character, and a childish retard.

Lapis has been around for an entire season and I don't think she's so much as spoken to any of the "main" gems outside of the group discussion in Gem Harvest.

>genocide is good, actually

ok bud. maybe this explains why people are mad about peridot actually.

A non sadistic sociopath is a being that doesnt care about your feelings but doesnt try to make you suffer for pleasure. Most animals are non sadistic sociopaths.

Fuckable doesn't mean a good character.

This. Peridot has served her function as a character, which is to show that the Crystal Gems aren't unique in being able to decide to tell HW to fuck off. She's no longer important because of that but it's okay.

The Cluster is the most flaccid reveal and arc though.

But they don't really fight anyone these days, other than the occasional homeworld gem (which she's either usually around for or wouldn't be much help with).

you're an idiot if you think that is what I was saying

>She became a one-note meme character, and a childish retard.

Except she's actually not, and neither is Lapis. All of Peridot's interactions with other characters post-redemption have been ways of showing how she is integrating with life on Earth while maintaining her own identity. This is important because it demonstrates that the two value-systems of the two societies - Earth and Homeworld - aren't essentially unbridgeable.

>makes op post without doing fucking research
>someone told them facts
>asks for research so don't have to do it

Activates my almonds. Not same user but here you go

youtu.be/GLm342T6QS8

16:00 is when relevant question asked. 16:55 is Lapis

>fuckable doesn't mean a good character.
>implying
Her initial introduction was great. Her new 'habituated character' is also great. I get a lot of people prefer contemplative sorrow but jaded removed bitterness is good for me too.
Not my fault you were born with shit taste

what the fuck were you even saying? That peridot is a neet, and that's bad, but I was saying neets are good? What does any of that have to do with imperialism?

All she has to do is have Lapis concentrate her ocean powers into an actual weapon, and say that now she can't control as much water as she used to but can be better in battle.

Look I'm not going to say you're wrong but, you're fucking wrong.

Its because Peri is a retard. Lapis makes no attempts at trying to blend with hunans showing only the mentally ill would consider that.

>colonialism
Don't talk with anyone who thinks imperialism is a real thing. Thank me later.
Colonies are objectively and morally good.

what's bad isn't Peridot's rejection of her old life

its the new life she has taken on, the problem isn't that Peridot changed, its what she changed into that is a problem, a useless childish silly person who never does anything.

>Its because Peri is a retard.

ok.

>Colonies are objectively and morally good.

the world would be better if you were dead.

Look at this face and say that.

>a useless childish silly person who never does anything.

she's enjoying her freedom. What exactly do you want her to do?