Cast Lin-Manuel Miranda for the role

>Cast Lin-Manuel Miranda for the role
>Therefore we must change the duck to be brown and tack on a hyphenated Spanish last name

W-what?

You're confusing "have to" with "chose to"

I highly doubt this will have any major impact on the character outside of giving lantio kids a latino superhero.

did you miss the longer thread earlier today or something

>giving lantio kids a latino superhero.
He was a duck in a robo-suit. Anyone could have projected themselves as a superhero with him. Now he's specifically Spanish-Duckbergian.

The fact that they felt the need to add a Spanish last name to the character because of who they got to play the role is like if someone told Gennedy they need to change Jack's name to Samrai Jack-D'quan.

If race doesn't matter then why does it bother you so much?
Adding representation it's literally just a plus, it has no downside.

Basically that.

>representation
Show me some peer reviewed studies that prove this does anything at all.

If we get brown ducks, does that means we'll get black ducks too?

I don't have a problem with him being latino, but shouldn't the name be more..."duck"y? Like maybe it could have been Fenton Quackcia/FernanDuck or something like that?

Even if its just placebo and fake, it's still better than doing nothing.
AND EVEN if it does nothing you already said that race doesn't matter so what's the big whoop? Literally nothing wrong with this.

Because the implication that Lin Manuel can't play a white duck, he's gotta play a brown duck and we gotta change the last name is more offensive than just letting him play the normal character.

It's fine. But I swear if this guy talks in Spanglish I will lose my shit.

>does that means we'll get black ducks too?
No, because I think Warner Brothers might legit sue for plagiarizing. And I don't know if they'll use any black bird species in the show considering their previous history.

yeah, I don't think it's actually an issue to not have him be white, and though changing the feather color to reflect that feels weird in a way the color scheme looks fine.

I think the only actual issue here is changing/adding to the last name. like couldn't they have just kept the name the same and show him being latino through his mother and home/culture or whatever?

trivial issue I guess but it shouldn't really matter that he has a "white" (fictional duck) surname if the latino aspect is otherwise obvious

Do tan feathers mean they are from a different race for ducks?

Daddy?

SEE

That's retarded, though.
In a similar case, that's like complaining that the Bobby Santiago character and the Ronnie Anne Santiago character in The Loud House, both of which were originally white, should've stayed that way when they hired a Hispanic actor for Bobby, when ultimately it was a better off choice and influenced how their characters went on with the whole show.
Characters being changed or influenced by the actors that play them isn't something new, and isn't saying that the actor can't "play a character that isn't like themselves", it's to make the character feel more natural and a choice, by the creators.

Except all of that happened pre-production which isn't unusual when a creator gets new ideas during development, sometimes of which can happen after casting. Sometimes characters personalities are changed as well. But that
s different from an established character for years who was suddenly changed now due to their new casting. If the fact that they weren't casting a guy whose big with the young adult crowd right now (Further shitting on the voice acting community for this entire show) was obvious enough, pushing him to be Spanish in such a lazy way is almost aggressively pandering.

>Calls something retarded
>Immediately goes on to spew a bunch of retarded bullshit
That was a change made before those characters were even in anything, this is an established character who people will already be familiar with if they watched the previous show.
The example you're giving isn't even remotely comparable, you fucking idiot.

Didn't seem to be much of an issue beforehand. Still, I don't care much for the 'representation' card, if it's being played.

>They could have made cameos
>Instead brownwash a duck

I thought the people working on the new DT love old school references and cameos?

so we are throwing racial shit over ducks?
white ducks are withe people, brown ducks are latinos...a black duck like duffy would be black people?

but this isnt a continuation of the old show or even the comics, its Ducktales but its its own entity in and of itself and so are the characters, albeit influenced by the version that came before it.
complaining about Fenton Crackshell being being latin influenced in this incarnation is like complaining that Jazz and Prowl were ninjas in TFA. its a new spin on this incarnation of the character.

Yes, that's why we've never seen them in the upper class suburbs of Duckburg.

I have a feeling Lin himself suggested it. So what?

>implying he'd throw away his shot at playing a cartoon duck

how would turning them into Fenton Crackshell make any sense? you talking like castin Lin Manuel took a job away from a cartoon bird.
on top of that this version Donald is a well traveled adventurer its actually more likely they'll show up in this than ever before

It's a lazy, pandering "spin" in the most uncreative way possible.

At the very least they could have done: >Like maybe it could have been Fenton Quackcia/FernanDuck or something like that?

Maybe the new Powerpuff Girls should've changed Bubbles name to reflect her Korean voice actress, too.

everything has always been representation, its just now people are tryin to represent slightly more than usual.

>how would turning them into Fenton Crackshell make any sense?
Who the hell said that? I just said they could have included them if they wanted Latino characters so bad.

>Sup Forums was right, I'll never be satisfied

Ironically I'm not seeing any brown ducks that are Spanish or Central/South American in origin. This shit was just lazy.

Making me lose hope Ducktales.

I don't know, one of them were already in that mickey mouse short. Don't want to wear out their welcome like don rosa did.

>All these celebrities
What's the fucking budget on this thing?

Why not a White-Hispanduck?

Its a Disney Revival. Its got plenty.

>But you don't get a (you) unless you complain about remakes. You get love for it, you get hate for it, you get nothing if you wait for it wait for it wait for it

One of the directors is a known SJW. This surprises you?

>Lin-Manuel Miranda

Literally who?

Wasn't she being ironic though? There was nothing repressive about Disney's old men.

you act like this will have some impact beyond some kid going "hey his mane is kinda like mine!" and having collage kids tune in cause their fav theater guy is in it.
like it some how affects the character on some level deeper than cosmetic.
i promise he'll still be thes ame bumbling duck that stumbles onto a robot suit because of some nonsense word he uses as a expletive. the armor wont activate some 'latin sense' and suddenly work only for him and it wont activate because Fenton sings the hottest tune from Quackilton. he'll be the same slightly recurring character he was in the old show with but with a different palette and a slightly different name this time around.

He sung the english parts in We Know The Way from Moana

9 Old Cis White Men

i like most of the people involved but lets not pretend most of them aren't c-tier at best.

If you see this change as a positive thing and not the lazy pandering for the many reasons explained several times before, you're part of the problem and not worth explaining it to over and over again.

Who all had more talent than her.

And wrote and starred in that Hamilton thing.

>Nine masters had more talent than Alex's latest fuck toy

No shit

>Fenton Crackshell-Cabera

WTF? I always thought it was Fenton QUACKshell. Hopefully Duckwing Duck makes a cameo!

its very obviously a joke

Is that the one with Porky Pig?

and if all you can see is some grand slap in the face over some inconsequential bit of pandering i dont know how you enjoy anything.

It's easy to enjoy stuff when you're faithful to the source material.

I guess that's too hard for people with an agenda.

Nah just the pretentious overpriced musical hipsters and elitist go to make themselves feel educated.

you know one of those kids ends up being gay right? its in the books and everything, is that not also a part of your agenda?

She said it in response to that article last year with all the men directors talking about their strong female leads in animated movies, so I don't think it was a joke.

>kneel here


Wow, that's a really risque joke for a kid's cartoon.

When that's the original source material, no.

If they changed him to be gay in the movie if he never was in the book for PR brownie points like LeFou, then yes.

It's not that hard to grasp, but you seem to struggle between the differences of "original" and "changed".

then how did you enjoy the original cartoon, it took a unch of liberties with the original comics!
like Donalds was a main character in the comics but the 90's toon he was a guest cameo at best!
and they edited down and sanitized a bunch of the adventures they ended up adapting!
did you not know this?

You're racist and stupid. By your dumbass logic nu-Bubbles should be yellow and have slitted chink eyes.

>Still struggling to understand this hard

Don't you have a Mary Sue article to write?

>Calls someone racist
>Has no idea what a Korean person actually looks like
>Thinks they look like the Chinese
Kill yourself.

>this will have some impact beyond some kid going "hey his mane is kinda like mine!"
Do you not remember what it was like to be a kid? I mean, you sound underage so you must be, but I don't recall ever looking at fucking cartoon animals and going, "Wow! He's the same color as me!".

I didn't relate to Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse because they were "white". And I doubt a bunch of black kids admired Simba because he was from Africa.

>And I doubt a bunch of black kids admired Simba because he was from Africa.
that movie and the Broadway version actually have a big black following specifically because of its african-ness

>Mickey Mouse
>White

Look up his first appearance, he straight up sexual assaults Minnie! Mickey's Black!

He's black AND white

Really makes you think, huh?

Goofy is black, too. Only a black person could be that stupid.

Yeah, and not all Latino people are brown, yet that didn't stop the DT crew from making that the primary color for one.

Why is giving colored people anything considered pandering here?

> I don't recall ever looking at fucking cartoon animals and going, "Wow! He's the same color as me!".
That sounds like a very specific and personal example, conveniently ignoring the plentiful of people who did and do actually feel this, or something similar, like identifying with a character so much that you assume they're your race since one isn't given.

I fucking hate Annie.

Because people have increasingly become lazy about it by just giving non-white people white roles rather than using existing characters or otherwise making new characters in some cases.

It makes it extra dumb for a cartoon where the design didn't need to change, unlike say Fantastic Four where they're not going to digitally change his skin color.

Like, no one gives a shit if Marco Diaz is brown or that Lincoln Loud's best friend is black. It's changing white characters to fill those roles that sucks. If a network really wanted some diversity, they could just scout out some talented minority artists and give them a chance to make a pilot, but they don't. They just hire white people to change existing characters. It's shitty to both artists and audiences.

dune im just pointing out how far that "true to the source material" argument goes.
but the new and the old show have stuff thats true to the comics that they are both based on.
and if you want to complain about it being different what about the nephews being more distinct from one another than they were in the old show? what about webby having a different personality all together? what about Donald being a main character? what about Scrooge having a different type of Scottish accent? theses are all on the same level of Fenton but i dont see threads about those. just Fenton, and he's probably ther leat different out of all of them script wise.
then again i shouldn't be arguing so much, you aren't not even gonna watch the show.

It's just a duck

It's just weird, because skin color has never been a concern in donald duck before. Ducks aren't exactly white IRL, and the last mexican they had was fucking red.

Personally I don't mind because I'm not a dumb fucking racist but it does make me wonder about the process which led to this result. Did Lin-Manuel demand that he be given a hispanic bird to play? Or did the people behind the show just assume it would be appropriate? Like I said, it's weird.

Playwright and composer, made In the Heights, Hamilton, and worked on Moana

did you give your Clydesdale some stilts man?
cause you're suddenly on a high horse.

I like how he thinks this show being somewhat different (usually for the better) to the old one is bad when the old show took a gigantic, steaming shit all over the Duckverse.

>Maybe the new Powerpuff Girls should've changed Bubbles name to reflect her Korean voice actress, too.

Bubbles isn't supposed to be Korean though, it isn't like Samurai Jack is black just because his VA is.

If they're going to racebend him, at least make his name fit with the rest of the duck characters.

I don't see him complaining about it. Characters being altered to more closely resemble their VAs isn't a new thing. It happened to Adam Sandler in Hotel Transyvania, it happened to Scar in the Lion King, and it happened to Hades in Hercules.

Except this is still a decision made pre-preduction of this current iteration, because it's unlikely they finished a whole show then dramatically changed the show when they got the actor. It's the same kind of choice that leads to Webby used more as a main character than the original established character that was used more sparingly..
The idea that they're "pushing" or "pandering", in this case, even if somehow true, is a self-fabricated one due to your own thoughts on how they 'should' or 'shouldn't' "handle" race. In the first place, complaining about pandering is hilarious, especially in this, a Ducktales reboot, where a lot of the advertising is playing off legitimate pandering to nostalgic teens and adults. To exaggerate, if this was simply about race pandering, in your eyes they'd be making Huey indian, or whatever his voice actor is, and Mrs. Dewley black.

>Has no response
>Rofl I'll just call him pretentious that'll show him

>Anyone could have projected themselves as a superhero with him

kinda funny that him being latino apparently makes him impossible to emphasize/relate with or whatever but not being a fucking duck

>White girl working in California
>Director on a big show at a young age
>50,000 followers
>Consistently featured in articles as "rising animators to look out for"
>Claiming she understands anything about repression

Why is it always the most privileged who are the most preachy?

Early comic books didn't have "White" characters, they had uncolored characters. There's a reason why Donald Duck wears a black suit in the comics and a blue one in the cartoons. The printing process was extremely primitive. Now we have better printing processes and better colors, why not use the entire pallet?

You're taking a limitation due to technology and extrapolating more then was there.

>Joking = Preaching

Not surprised - Sup Forums are the unfunniest motherfuckers on the planet

>Thinking she was joking

>Or did the people behind the show just assume it would be appropriate?
i assume its that. Diversity. which despite what some might say isnt the ends of the world.

We've had color for the past 70 years though, that's a lot of new ducks. Basically everyone after and including Scrooge was never in black and white and this was never an issue before today.

She clearly is.

my response was that you're pretentious.
you lost footing in the argument, so it was suddenly about how the industry is to blame.

>She clearly is.
Keep believing it if you wish. I don't think anyone who was inspired by the women's march actually has a sense of humor.

that's only ugly duckling.

>She has opinions, so this joke she told wasn't really a joke

That's some next level cynicism right there.

why do you have all these images saved

kind of sad

It's just a Sup Forumstard.

where does Gizmo ducks feets go?

>Aggressive feminist
>Sees roundtable with all men talking about girl characters
>Makes a sarcastic remark about the Nine Old Repressive Men
>Thinking that was a joke rather than implying that "times haven't changed"

Please, explain what the "joke" was in relation to the context of why she posted it.

he actually just site cross legged in the chest cavity

But you just explained the joke you fucking idiot

So the joke is that she's a feminist who believes that times for women haven't changed since the 20's - 40's in the animation industry?

I don't think anyone who felt threatened by the women's march is worth listening to