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Slott also said that Peter Parker was never coming back from the dead and that Superior Spider-Man would be permanent. And you know how they're going to have a "break-the-internet" reveal in the Marvel Legacy one-shot? Yeah there's a very good chance that it'll be something related to One More Day that at the very least will start the process to undoing it and bringing back the marriage. It makes sense. It would be very unexpected, much more so than bringing back Logan or the F4. And it would provide an answer as to why Marvel's doing all these MJ variants.

I'm just curious as to who these higher-ups that apparently all want to keep the marriage dead are and where the vitriol comes from

Spider-man and MJ getting married AGAIN would be dumb. Its iconic as it is. Its why I think killing Gwen Stacy in adaptions is dumb. You don't just do the same thing, that's not fun.

I've heard this many times before, and yet here we are.

Undoing OMD and bringing back the marriage would also be an easy, almost effortless way for Marvel to restore some goodwill with fans.

Mary Jane is a lesbian now.

>says-dan-slott

This.

Skittish just stirring the pot now so that when it happens later there will be a bigger pay off.

Does Peter retain any memory of the Mephisto deal? Also I recall MJ whispering a little side-deal condition, but I don't think they ever revealed what that was.

They also said Spider-man's secret identity reveal wouldn't ever just be "magically poofed away by Dr. Strange or anything" and so when he tells Peter he can't magically undo it, he goes to Mephisto, who magically poofs it instead.

Which Gwenpool issue is that from?

And I will never ever read your Spider-man up to infinity, Slott.

>OMD gets undone
>With the condition that Pete somehow gives up his Spidey antics.
>Sizes up Miles for a while to determine if he's a suitable replacement
>Gives him his blessing, even offers him his colors (Miles either excepts or declines and sticks with his black)
>Pete finally gets the happy life with MJ that he has struggled for multiple decades to achieve
I'd dig it, if that's what happens. Doubt it will be though due to the status quo of Peter Parker's characterization.

Do you think Slott has read any of Spider-Man and Deadpool?

I doubt Slott reads any current book that he isn't writing and just has Lowe tell him anything he absolutely needs to know.

Marvel would sooner de-age Peter back to high school for imaginary movie synergy bucks than bring back the marrage. This isn't DC, who is content on having their comics, tv, movies, etc. be complete alternate universes. This is Marvel, where things are similar so people won't be confused. It's why the only comics they publish are largely either from a movie or a popular joke character (Squirrel Girl, Gwenpool, etc.). It's why their lineup for Legacy is still the same tired writers and artists that we see today. And it's why Spider-Fags need to stop deluding themselves with this fantasy that the marrage will come back.

Marvel will never let Peter grow up or move on or not get tortured perpetually

but this is a nice thought

>Also I recall MJ whispering a little side-deal condition, but I don't think they ever revealed what that was.
that he would leave peter alone. which according to omit retconned the deal itself out of existance. and mephisto is fucking over peter in sm/dp

didn't he make a deal with mj to leave peter alone

>why does Marvel hate the marriage so much?
Because redheads aren't an important minority in their eyes.

It was to live him alone "until the end of his days", and since technically he had just died, you could technically argue hell, Mephisto's the Devil, he would argue that the contract was null

Presumably, in Spider-Man and Deadpool, when Peter died, the deal became fulfilled, Peter reached "the end of his days." But was then brought back, this means he's free to fuck with Peter all he wants.

Of course that's in Kelly's comic, Slott probably doesn't read it.

>tfw the Spider-girl universe where Peter had a good life and mostly retired to be a cool dad is only one of the 'infinite number' of spiderman universes Marvel has, instead of the practically canon future like it was originally.

>we never see Parker building on his classic successes like his best-selling book, or his university teaching, or his job at an experimental chemical plant that one time.
>now they keep trying to make him a proto-tony-stark with his own bullshit holding company that feeds him money and crime-fighting shit like literally every other hero, and doing so seemingly out of thin air and superhero benefactors

>instead of the practically canon future like it was originally.
How could it be the canon future when the story is literally based on a "what if" about their daughter not being stillborn during the Clone saga?

yeah that makes sense.

but peter only died because mephisto was manipulating Deadpool

SJW hate heterosexual marriage. Peter will marry Iceman instead.

Now I want an MJ crying on youtube "LEAVE PETER ALONE!!!@" fanart.

Which one? After all the young one was made gay by young Jean Grey, but the old one?

>Spider-man and his amazing friends is now Firestar and her flamboyantly gay friends

Checked em

It's actually pretty genius plan, he only made a deal with Weasle who wants to torture Deadpool by fucking with his hero who just happens to be spider-man.

They are storywise the same one. Not alternative dimensions (at least as far as I've tried to read), but actual time travel
So the reveal that the young one is gay retroactively turned the older one gay, even if he had always been in hetero relationships

I get that, but I don't remember the older Iceman ever coming out.

>Slott also said that Peter Parker was never coming back from the dead and that Superior Spider-Man would be permanent.

And also that Phil Urich killed Roderick Kingsley. And about how people shouldn't pirate comics (yet he was pirating something)

I have not seen the actual reveal, but I think it basically happened at the same time. In one of the earliest chapters of that X-men book that was released just after Secret Wars I remember him talking with a gay student of the school because he didn't know how a gay should act, since he had remained in the closed for so long

>Pete somehow gives up his Spidey antics.
>Sizes up BEN REILLY for a while to determine if he's a suitable replacement
>Gives _BEN_ his blessing, even offers him his colors ([spoiler_BEN_sticks with his rework of the spidey costume)
>Pete finally gets the happy life with MJ that he has struggled for multiple decades to achieve.
>Pete fucks up and gets RE-radioactivated and gets his powers back, and comes back in time for ben to find out he's the clone and dies.
>pete back as spidey.

Something about this sounds so familiar....

Dan Slott is a manchild retard and spouts a LOT of shit to make people mad. He also legitimately hates Mary Jane Watson as a character.

>there is nobody in the world can undo what i do
Trump could unironically actually do it in a whim, and by that i mean Barron Trump

there is a comic catering specifically to your weird fetish. The Fantastic Four haven't had a comic in almost 2 years.Conclusion: Marvel hates Spider-Man fans.

Has any comics publisher ever been as terrible as Marvel is right now?

DCYou era DC was literally a year ago and it was maybe the worst lineup of comics I've ever seen. They managed to turn it semi around. Make Mine Marvel.

You shouldn't read it because it "caters to your fetish"
You should just read it because it's a much better Spider-book with a much better author

I stopped reading Spidey after Ben took over.

Started up again right before Civil War up until Superior and stopped again.

Also, since Spider-girl was based on the Ben era, does that mean Peter was still powered down in that series? Only ever read one issue of the series.

>Also, since Spider-girl was based on the Ben era, does that mean Peter was still powered down in that series?

No, the events of the Clone Saga happened all the way through with Peter regaining his powers, Ben being killed by Osborn, and the baby being kidnapped (with Osborn setting things up so that MJ thinks she had a miscarriage). Things don't change into MC2 until The Final Chapter, where instead of finding Aunt May alive he finds baby Mayday alive, IIRC.

Didn't like Ben? There was some good stuff in the ben arc. I really liked some of the stuff that was happening at the time, like the Phil Ulrich Good Green Goblin.

Spider-Girl was kinda weird, pete had his powers and was the defacto spidey and they never really mentioned ben bar the fact that's where may got her suit from and ben was a great spidey and was her uncle ben that she never met.

I don't know if he ever showed up, I only read the first few years of SG and it ran a surprisingly long time. Fantastic 5ive was bullshit though. FUnny enough, most of MC2 was just remaking current teams with loads of guys swapped for chicks. It was ahead of it's time and died on it's ass with only May's title surviving. Almost exactly like what happened to the 2099 and the Ultimate Universe.

Why are the spiders the only characters that can sustain marvel alternate lines?

I prefer she'd be bi. Threesomes with MJ and Felicia would be dope!

Not one current Marvel title is as good as Omega Men or even Midnighter.

Hell, Starfire was better than any of the "cute girl superhero" books Marvel's become obsessed with producing.

And when the initiative was a sales flop, they changed their direction and recovered within the year.
Compare to Marvel, who are fine with having a bulk of their titles being sales disasters since they're propped up by semi-annual events, constant relaunches, Star Wars, and an endless supply of Marvel money which means they'll literally never have an incentive to improve.

MJ a shit.

Well, they're holding off on events for a while.. but it still seems like Marvel editorial isn't going to do fuck all, so not much will change.

We have some different tastes the user.
I really want to like Tom King, i just don't. He has some nice formalist moments/tricks up his sleeve. The Grayson one-shot, even the lat two Batman issues, the swamp thing one and "the Button" with the hockey game that was The Watchmen riff. i'm still not sold though. Gay Batman beating up Cis scum didn't push my heteronormative buttons either.
You managed not to mention Prez, the gooking of Superman, Bat-Mite, Doomed, Levitz on Dr. Fate, an Earth-2 book, Some sort of Black Canary thing. Chappie Jim Gordon Batman. We are Robin. Hal Jordan with a fucking Backpack and NES power Glove.not one, not two but something like 17 Cullen Bunn ongoing titles. It was shit. they did correct ship though.

Because Marvel is full of hacks that use Peter relationship drama as a crutch when they're running low on ideas and being married stops them from doing that.

They're also convinced that having him married ages him and makes him unrelatable.

You take that back. Starfire was generic shit.

Because people who read comics don't want the marriage and the responsibility it brings.

He sounds like pic related

Is there a bigger baby than Dan Slott?

>Peter will never live a happy life with MJ after giving Kaine his blessings to become Spider-Man as the final step to his well-earned redemption. And I guess Miles can take over as the new Scarlet Spider or something

DCYou had better comics than Rebirth, you pleb. Except for Prieststroke, none of the comics are half as good as Omega men or Prez. What is with the recent hate for DCYou. I remember Sup Forums liking it when it was going on.

Jealously.

To elaborate on user's point, Slott says MJ is too much of a perfect woman, a beautiful celebrity which had everything handed to get in life and thus she isn't compelling, and that Peter would be a shallow person if he picked her as companion for life and that Octo is much more of a deep man for falling in love with the midget

Probably the same reason we hate Dan Slott so much.

I started reading Spider-man in the 80s as a child. The Clone Saga revealed the Spider-man that I had been reading all this time, the one who got married to MJ, and had all this drama with the Osborn family, the one who I was emotionally attached to, was actually a clone of the original from a story I had never read.

So when he took over as Spider-Man, I kinda rage quit.

To be honest, aging the characters by having given birth to May Day Parker would have been an acceptable change to me. Spider-dad and what not.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Slott didn't read that issue when they said that MJ too had a pretty shitty life, right?

When you think about it, that's the second time he died, the first being when Otto stole his body and left Peter in his dying one.

So Mephisto's got a double out.

Amazing Spider-monkey on going when?

At the end of the Alien Symbiote arc, yeah? How her mom got married too young and they had a rough childhood after her dad split?

>To be honest, aging the characters by having given birth to May Day Parker would have been an acceptable change to me. Spider-dad and what not.
There an actually good comic about that

Why not just make him Spider-pre-teen then? Him having a job and not going to school ages him and makes him unrelatable.

Oh, is this legit? I thought these were, like, ironic variant covers or something.

Yeah, but a literal webslinging family sucks balls.
I can't get over how bad MJ and the kid look.

>Why does a company who's been infiltrate by the Gay Agenda hate heterosexuality

O GEE I DUNNO GUYS

But even ignoring such backstory reveals, how the hell do you look at all the trouble MJ and Peter went through together and think "oh yeah, that's a shallow supermodel that should stay away from muh Peter"

Undoing OMD won't be break- internet, it will unify Internet in joy. If anything, we'll know the twins MJ secretly had with the Vulture

In general, it seems like Slott has a general disrespect for most of Spidey's supporting cast/rogues, but with MJ, it's outright hate. There's a reason he doesn't even bother writing her anymore.

But isn't that what Miles is for? I mean he's gotta be for something.

>The marriage is NEVER EVER coming back. Spidey is all MINE, MINE MINE MINE
>S-stop insulting me on twitter you fucking NAZIS!!!!

I think Slott is legitimately retarded.

Miles is there to jerk off Bendis' ego

because quadeda and slott want peter to be a young adult that lives with his near dying aunt forever.
because they think people won't like an adult peter that has a happy marriage

Are Luke Cage and Jessica Jones married? Cause if not, the only other one I can think of is Deadpool and Shiklah, and their relationship is disfunctional as fuck.

There are variant comical covers about MJ this month, but the comic is real

I can understand that, but after having thought about it I came to the conclusion that it's for the better, because this isn't a comic about Spider-Man, it's about the Spider-family
In a Spider-man comic you can have MJ just being a supporting character without super powers, but it's really difficult to incorporate her in a story as a main character without it feel like Aquaman in the Superfriends cartoon or Aqualad in the original Teen Titans comics
She's not even a reporter like Lois Lane or a tech genius like Oracle, so you can't give her something to do to actually help Peter like those other too
If they didn't give her powers she would have ended up like Lois Lane in the current Superman comic (at least as far as I've read it), which is for the most part not being in it with the story completely focused on Superman and his son

Also, while I concur that Annie's costume is bad but I can understand the process that created it, I like MJ's one

That's pretty much Marvel Editorial wholesale. All are the worst qualities of Marvel fans magnified.

Imagine if any of you were dealt the same hand as Peter, by the powers that be. Striped away from a loving spouse and your child; a good future. Forever forced to be a play thing for your creators. Would you not want revenge? Would not want to meet one that causes you grief and crush them? What say you Sup Forums?

Why can't a man just have a loving wife user?

News Article about all of Marvel Editorial dropping from their windows and some mysterious glue residue being found covering their persons.

>Spider-Man Kills the Marvel Editorial

Because Slott is a manchild.

Jesus, imagine the exchange

Because in that case she would have barely been a character in the comic
Let's be serious. For most issues of any comic more than half of the pages are dedicated to action sequences, either the action itself, the build-up to it or, if not strictly action, still situations that are not normal life-like, like a crime investigation.
In that situation a loving wife waiting for his husband to get home would have really little space, so she's either barely in the comic or you're forced to give her secondary plots that would in most cases take away from the aforementioned action, since MJ isn't normally related to anything that can help Peter in his crime-fighting business
Giving her powers lets her have an important presence in the comic while giving the reader what he normally wants from a comic about a man with spider powers fighting crime

I don't think you really understand what a supporting character is.

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So are non redheads getting married left and right?

DEADPOOL DID IT! DEADPOOL DID IT!

The fact is that MJ isn't a supporting character in RYW, she's a main character together with Peter and their daughter

>Straczynski will never come back to retcon this last decade of spider-bullshit

I misread it as ANAL ADVENTURE.

>Peter gets to meet his Creator
>the Man point out that in the strips he has a good life and what happened to him it's not his fault, pointing him to Slott and Quesada
>Black costume Peter strikes
>Now Stan is in charge of Marvel again
>Ike dies shortly after
>We can finally read good comics again

I would be happy as fuck.

Also fuck that anime and his overly ridiculous exposition episodes. How waste a great concept.

Jim Shooter won't come back to just cleanse the entire department.

>Fat retarded virgins hate pretty girls and cannot understand them.

Colour me surprsied!

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SHOOP IT

>Stan
>good comics
Pick one.

Because none of them know what a happy marriage is and find it difficult to write.

Still, You want to know how bad OMD and marvel's last decade is in my eyes?

I would be 100% fine with the clichéd "and it was all a shitty-food induced fever-dream" cop-out and for the last decade to simply be binned

I'll feel bad for Carnage-man and Gwenpool, but Carnage-man would sacrifice himself for the greater good and Gwen... well tough shit, Gwen

I love the strips