Is the long take the most overrated shot in filmaking?

Is the long take the most overrated shot in filmaking?

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Why do you say it's overrated? Technically it's always going to be more difficult to pull of than steady shots isn't it?

Why does hollywood praise the long take but shit on porn?

Because most of the time it's used purely for a gimmick with zero corellation to the narrative. Today especially.

I'm usually impressed if it occurs to me that I haven't seen a cut in a long time.

examples

Todays "long takes" aren't even long takes, just a bunch of shots edited together by the camera panning extremely fast or going completely black for a split second so they can cut it and put the next scene there.

I hate this so much.

If you are gonna do a long shot, do a fucking long shot for fucks sake

It's so noticeable when they do that whip pan to cover up an edit.

post the list you fuck

A lot of people forget that most of the times the long-take is simply a last resort to get shit done while saving time and money

OP is subvering your expectations. Absolutely Kino.

It's like anything else: it depends how it's done and for what purpose. But I agree it can be gimmicky no doubt.
I dislike the one in Boogie Nights for the very reason you are invoking despite it's technical virtuosity. In the end it doesn't bring anything to the story, it's pretty but rather hollow. While say for example the one in Snake eyes is actually manipulating the narrative's flow of information, it has purpose.

Yes.

opening of spectre, gravity, children of men

>The Protector - Restaurant Fight Scene
>The Mirror - Burning Barn Scene
>Atonement - The Beach Sequence
>Weekend - Traffic Jam Scene
>Hard Boiled - Hospital Shootout
>The Player - Opening Shot
>Touch of Evil - Bomb Sequence
>Boogie Nights - Little Bill Sequence
>Gravity - Opening Shot
>Goodfellas - Copacabana Lounge
>Snake Eyes - Boxing Match
>Children of Men - Car Scene

The film Russian Ark, is just one huge long take. Was pretty kino as well.

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

add gravity, the whole fucking movie is made to look like a single long take.

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

Gravity is listed there. Not my list, though, but the one from OPs image

long shot in True Detective was kinocity

For example that True Detective "long take"
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That whole sequence in TD is built upon the idea of "let's make a "cool epic" handheld tracking shot for the finale of this narrative. Yes it fit's the narrative to put you in your shoes of Rusts character, but this amount of gimmickery removes any focus on the character of Rust because the cinematographer pulls all attention to his camerawork, which should never be done.
Every single time the camera pans through an empty wall in the apartments to show something else would be improved if it was replaced with a simple back to back cut.
It's entirely screaming "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT THE CAMERAWORK, DO YOU SEE THIS" while the scene would benefit greatly with a few basic cuts which are here just filled with countless panning shots of doorways and empty walls just so it remains an "epic" long shot.

Similar things in recent Lubezki work with Inarittu like Birdman or The Revenant. Long takes are great when used in a few select scenes to emphasize those parts, but using it in almost every single scene just removed any effect or impact it had and made all those scenes on the same level of dynamics no matter what's happening.
With that many uses of long takes and handheld shots you become too aware of the camera and the camera operating, every pan becomes a crutch which could just be replaced with a simple cut. Yes a long take can provide more tension if used at the right places, but using it in so many scenes no matter of context removes it's effect completely.

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You don't have to do reddit spacing here, faggot.

I really liked the one from Children of Men because it makes you feel like you're in the car with Theo et al, with all the shit happening outside in real time. Makes it feel more real.

On the flipside, I never thought stuff like the Goodfellas club shot was that impressive. And the one from Atonement is like what I said in they were running out of time and couldn't afford to keep hiring all the extras for extra filming so they said "fuck it, let's do it in one take"

If Sup Forums is any indication the most overrated shot is the character standing in the middle of the shot with a contre-jour effect.

>Children of Men - Car Scene
This scene really hit me hard with unifying feeling of humanity and greater goal.
With Gravity also on my all time favorite list any new movie by Alfonso Cuaron is definitely gonna be on my radar.

That 40 long take Mr. Robot episode was pretty good, granted there were probably hidden cuts in there.

Fuck, I thought it meant the cease fire scene, reading comprehension.

Both were GOAT desu, though both are really three or more takes seamlessly spliced together. But at least all the interior car segment was indeed one take (it cuts until they leave the vehicle to hide the enormous rig they had to build to shoot the inside stuff)

it was decent for a tv show, but man there were at least 3 door cuts if not more that were all super easy to spot.

Children of Men is a prime example of how gimmicky the use of long takes Birdman and The Revenant are. How can an artist fall down so much

I think the True Detective LT was meant to make you wonder when is the cut coming and share the sense of urgency the two guys have

>Mirror and Weekend are actually mentioned

I’ll be damned, take note Sup Forums this is the only good shit on the list

Curon did not direct Birdman/The Revenant

>not that hitchcock movie where the entire movie is made to look like one shot

dropped

I am talking about Lubezki, the cinematographer

It's impressive in how it comes together but often the scene could have been better constructed if it's done as a series of separate takes.

Something like the long take in Goodfellas is an example of it being used appropriately, while the opening of Revenge of the Sith is just I'M DIRECTING

literally the only redeeming part of Spectre was the long take in the beginning