>The first meetings to visualize The Force Awakens happened on January 16, 2013 at Skywalker Ranch with George Lucas himself. Among the pieces presented at the meeting were portraits of an older Luke Skywalker training a new disciple named Kira (who was later renamed Rey). The idea was that, 30 years after the fall of the Empire, Luke had gone to a dark place and secluded himself in a Jedi temple on a new planet.
I don't have a problem with a female protagonist. But at the same time, that doesn't excuse poor writing, poor acting, and zero character development. I couldn't care less about what happens to Rey because she's a non-entity
Cameron Reed
Everyone knows this whats the point of this thread
Liam Thompson
Yeah and his story would have made sense at the very least
Julian Butler
Except George isn't a Feminist.
Andrew Cox
To rile up Sup Forums so OP can post about it on her shit blog for good girl points.
Daniel White
Nothing wrong with a female protagonist. The problem is they turned her into a mary sue who has no struggles, no flaws, no opportunities to grow and develop depth as a character.
Owen Walker
The difference is Lucas would have had more respect for Luke's character and would not have given the female Jedi wannabe godlike powers before she even trained. Even if it was complete dog shit, it would have been more watchable than what we got
Ryder Baker
No shit, he probably would have had Jaina Solo become the main protagonist. I don't know anyone who read of her that didn't like her.
Benjamin Carter
Yes but Lucas would have made a Star Wars kino. What's your point?
Robert Diaz
Yeah but if George was involved Rey/Kira would have been an actual character with conflict, growth, and flaws, as opposed to that feminist cunt Kathleen Kennedy’s wish-fulfillment perfect self-insert.
Noah Lewis
No one gives a shit about about female protagonist or diverse cast. Unrelatable Mary-sue characters, nonsensical plots that don’t advance the story, and insane betrayals of beloved house-hold names for reasons that just don’t fit is what pissed of %49 of the rotten tomato’s viewership
Brayden Harris
He also wanted Indiana Jones to have a daughter but Spielberg told him, "fuck no."
Grayson Brooks
This is BS, they're extrapolating from concept art that nobody knows if it was for JJ's TFA or george original stories. So far they're saying this shitfest is the same as George wanted. Then why did Kathlee Kennedy trash his stories if they were the same? Why did he say it was a divorce. I can believe that his stories were about old Luke and maybe a prominent female character, but it would have been completely different. Mark hamill said it in the metro interview.
>Lucas would have respected Luke HAHAHA you realize this is the same guy who gave us “bad-ass” Yoda in episode 2 right?
Ethan Perez
I fail to see the connection. I think you just watched the Plinkett review too many times.
Owen Bennett
Disney: "We heard you liked the RLM review lol XD." "That Lucas, amirite?" "We'll make Star Wars while distancing it as far from Lucas and the PT as possible"
Also Disney: "Actually this is what Lucas would have done!"
Jonathan Anderson
I’d rather see “bad-ass” luke than “training padawans is too tough, I guess I’ll just hide on an island and die while the galaxy falls apart” luke
Asher Watson
I guarantee everything you complain about in these nu-star wars flicks would have been 10x worse if Lucas had his hand in it. You probably weren’t even alive when the prequels came out.
Ian Jenkins
No one who is familiar with Lucas's work and career is going to agree with you. Not a single one sweetie. Enjoy your blue pill.
Julian Sullivan
but his twink that murdered his face in a car wreck giving the increased illusion of character development is so cool :(
Matthew Rivera
A super cute Jedi like Reyrey is the best possible outcome you slackjawed faggots
Thomas White
Go away Sup Forums
Brayden Harris
Yet I’ve seen people complain when he does his “nothing personal” shoulder brush. You people are retards I swear to God.
Benjamin Howard
Disney shills.
Lucas makes Kino
Jonathan Robinson
I am doubtful. Even the prequels, dumpster fires as they are, were widely enjoyed. I've yet to meet a person who enjoyed TLJ.
Because they did it as a gag.
Anthony Smith
I find amusing that the damage control crowd seriously thinks that people problem wit Rey is that she is female.
Colton Lewis
Holy shit. How is it that people can't just accept that Rey is just a poorly written character? It has nothing to do with her being a woman. It has everything to do with the fact that she doesn't seem to struggle with anything. She masters difficult skills in a matter of minutes. She flies starships like an expert despite never having flown anything before. She defeats an experienced darkside user in a lightsaber duel despite having never used a lightsaber before in her life. She uses the jedi mind trick despite having no training in the force whatsoever. These are traits which would be just as bad if you put them in a male character.
I’m done with this thread. There’s no arguing no point arguing with the retardeness of Sup Forums these days.
Julian Gutierrez
>misquoting me SEETHING
Lincoln Torres
Great. I'm all for female heroes.
I just want good stories with good characters and without bullshit political propaganda showed down my throat.
Jaxson Roberts
>you people >%50 of viewership >fanboys amirite
Christopher Cox
Storming away. You sure told us
Michael Cox
I don't hate Rey because she's a female protagonist. I hate her because she's a poorly written character
Carson White
You dipshit liberals literally argue against your own stupid strawmen. Nobody has an issue with a female main character. People have an issue with a poorly written main character. Mary sue isn't a term against female main characters but poorly written power fantasies. You insisted on calling people sexist for not liking the movie, when they already explained their issues.
Joseph Walker
Lucas says a lot of shit. He also said there is no story after VI case closed. He also said he was the first person to make an all black movie. Or that nothing like Star Wars existed before him even though it was just Flash Gordon with plot elements taken from the Hidden Fortress.
Joshua Martinez
star wars fans arent people Sup Forums
Lucas Baker
George knows how to write female characters, unlike Disney
Jeremiah Green
If Lucas directed the Last Jedi Luke would probably have a hella fucking epic fight where he lifted mountains with his Jedi powers and threw them at Kyle Ren. He would be flipping and flying everywhere DBZ style and having a 15 minute lightsaber fight because hurt sure he’s powerful. That’s how Lucas would have liked it.
Hudson Gray
Lucas actually kept the force powers pretty restrained in the PT.
Lucas understands that powersink kills the kino
Mason Peterson
Kira was a total qt3.14 in the concept art. It also looked like she was going to have a healthy father and daugher, mentor and mentee relationship with Luke. Finn was also white in the concept art. Young hotshot chad. I think him and Kira were going to have a thing for each other? Finn would have kept her in her place and made sure she doesn't turn into a feminist, mary sue "independent, don't need no man woman" wet dream.
Julian Long
Darkplace you say?
Isaiah Sullivan
Yeah because I fucking hated Padme and Leah.
Fuck off
BTW disney didnt make a female protagonist they made a bunch of women unconvincingly act like men.
Liam Richardson
That would have been significantly better than what we got anyways.
Brody Bailey
>tfw accidentally jumped into the wrong timeline and got Disney Sequels instead of canon Lucas kino what went so fucking wrong bros
what went so fucking wrong
Daniel Adams
Nobody gives a fuck about the main character being a woman Every hates that she is some godlike bitch with zero training
Brayden Hughes
>he liked padme ahahahahah prequel babbies are so easy to spot.
Parker Hughes
He invited them to his place, were offering them a self made cake and they still turn down every one of his ideas. Most likely they also shit in his toilet and clogged them before leaving himm
Landon Russell
There's nothing wrong with a female protagonist. There is a problem with a female protagonist who is ludicrously overpowered for no other reason than to appease feminists, whereas the male protagonists of the previous films were flawed, struggled, and had to overcome adversity. >Luke was a Gary Stu Luke sucked throughout the first two movies. He only became a marginally good force user in the third film, and still the only reason Vader didn't obliterate him was that he didn't actually want to kill him. The fact that Luke was allowed to pilot a fighter in ANH at all is ridiculous. I'll give you that.
Elijah Hernandez
he said hated you dense faggot
Caleb White
shit this board is so into reddit wars i thought he was being ironical.
John Fisher
>Be Disney >Trash cutie and chad concepts >Casts this >Most blatant mary sue ever >Total bitch >Everyone is a quippy shit >Because fuck you you'll buy it
>In my heart I know georgie woulda done it right
I am sorry George.
Ethan Edwards
and that really sucks as I like Daisy Ridley and her xeno smile.
...Rey deserved better.
Nathan Johnson
>allowed They were short on pilots. They were letting anybody with any flight experience join them.
Carter Rodriguez
Most people are saying that they would not have a problem with a female protagonist as long as she was well written. I agree with that. But I would still prefer the main a character to not be a woman.
Jose Garcia
Okay, and?
It doesn't matter, my problem with Rey is that she's a Mary sue and has no development, she is horribly written
Carter Lopez
This here. Is this a >We dont understand why you dont want to see this movie, we bet its because its a female lead. >No most of us think she is too powerfull and there is no real developement in her character, besides there are plotholes and many things just make prior plotlines absolete. >Ok, but George wanted for his sequels a woman too, so why dont you like our movie?
Somehow all this Pr and excuses start to get kinda annyoing and feels hamfisted spin on narratives.
Asher Wright
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Kevin James
so how pissed are you dipshits going to be when they reveal she is just some kotor ripoff with their memories whiped.
Tyler Russell
Funny would be an alien or even a ewok hero.
Jaxon Garcia
>I would prefer the main a character to not be a woman.
Not pissed but annoyed that 2 directors try to undo the previews plotlines/revelations.
Joseph Richardson
>Being such a mary sue they directly steal from beloved stories in a last ditch attempt
This is exactly what I want.
Carter Rodriguez
I want to protect that toothy grin
Thomas Wright
Go back you stupid shill.
Austin Wood
Tge damage control is becoming more and more obvious. Why can’t they just admit their mistakes and make amends in XI? First they attack the critics, blame the Russians and Chirstmas, then they tried to blame JJ and now they are blaming George after they marketed TFA as being completely divorced from him.
The mouse is bleeding. They can hide it all they like but they are wounded.
Thomas Mitchell
A badass yoda was worth it over the OT yoda. We got to see more of what is capable of before he went senile and weak.
