H-how will he fix this mess?

h-how will he fix this mess?

apparently he helped make it

I wish Jar Jar made TLJ. I want off this ride.

>implying JJ Hackbrahms can fix anything

by remaking VI and calling it something else.

everything that happened in tlj was just a dream

He can't.
The trilogy he initially had in mind is now damaged because his story setup from TFA conflicted with Rian Johnson's initial draft for TLJ, which was completed BEFORE TFA was even finished.
Hence the rewrites and delays.
No amount of retcons, plot twists, mystery boxes, snarky dialogue, nostalgia pandering, or lens flare will EVER save this Trilogy now. Deal with it.

What mess? Our criticisms aside, the rest of the world views TLJ as an overwhelming success, even if it hasn't made the money that TFA did. Say what you will, but we're the minority. Granted, most of that is due to Disney shilling, but still.

hes the one responsible for it

He can't. JJ is a major hack. The only person that can save IX is Terrio but he won't give a fuck either after how critics responded to BvS.

He gave Rey mystery parents without having any idea who they were supposed to be, he knew as much about Snoke as we did when we saw TFA.
He's to blame for this mess.
He hasn't changed since lost, he thinks if he makes something that doesn't add up it's deep.

I'll give Rian credit for not being his bitch boy and instead making the story he wants. Imagine the sad person that actually agrees to solve JJ's bullshit mysteries for him. Rian is a goddamned hero in my eyes.

like he fixed lost

In the end, the finger can be pointed at Kathleen "The Force is Female" Kennedy for ruining this franchise.
>Pushes for the diversity/feminism/globalist quota over making a good story.
>Never established an overarching story architect
>Pushing Marxist propaganda.
>Doesn't give a shit as long as it makes money.
>Middle fingering baby boomers who grew up with this franchise.

I keep seeing people say this, but I don't see any evidence at all of any "Marxist" feminist propaganda.

Kill off Finn and Rose in opening scene. Make episode 9 a Rey and Ren 2 hour rom-com with intense gratutious love making scenes

>I'll give Rian credit for not being his bitch boy and instead making the story he wants.
I look at it as more of a symbolic middle finger to JJ's vision for the nu-Trilogy.
Regardless, the Trilogy's fucked now, and it's probably why Disney removed him from it so he could make his own separate trilogy that fits the narrative he initially wanted.
Case in point, fuck the Sequel Trilogy. It's beyond redemption now.

There isn't. Atleast not when you compare to the MCU. Spider-Man Homecoming was taking a huge dump on all white men. And Kennedy is atleast more open about letting directors take charge, which she should be doing.

He will probably bring back Snoke as a force ghost possesing Kylo or as a clone or whatever.
Kylo and Rey will team up to fight him.
Luke's Force Ghost will be the one to strike down Snoke in a gratuitous lightsaber fight.
Rey will be retconned to be Obi-Wan's daughter as a last ditch move to make fans forget TLJ.

Marxist = SJW

>most of the world

No longer the case

Don't they spend an hour on a fucking casino planet to tell you about how horrible capitalism is? Are you so dense?

...It's a story for another time.

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He can't save it. His initial effort was mediocre and he's the one who decided the sequel had to be a direct continuation of his film by ending on a cliffhanger.

CONSUME

>the low key disney shills
way to earn that paycheck faggot

I think you're seeing things that aren't there.

Let the past die. Kill it if you have to. Only then can Star Wars be free to be Female!

JJ fixed star wars after the mess created by the Prequels. The fact he even recovered it was impressive. The Force Awakens had problems but it satisfied fans and introduced new groups of people to the franchise. It also introduced new ideas, plot points as well as some mystery. I'm sure he would solve a lot of these new issues and answers the questions asked of by the fans

Incorrect. TLJ could've started where TFA ended and then done a time skip. Or it could've just done a time skip. Didn't NEED to see Luke's initial reaction to Rey showing up.

The only one he should blame is himself. Force Awakens was shit and Rian did his best to save it even though he failed miserable

>push Marxist agenda
>Don't give a shit as long as it makes money

Do you ever seriously think about ideas you hold and whether or not they make sense?

fix what?
ITS A GREAT FUCKING MOVIE AND YOU VIRGINS HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

>JJ Abrams
>good

>implying TFA wasnt a clusterfuck piece of pigshit with all of the same problems and politics

At least one thing I give Rian Johnson is that he doesn't lie despite being a soyboy. JJ Abrams and Kathleen kennedy are professional liars, they say what people want to hear at any given moment, but they do completely different stuff.

>but I don't see any evidence at all of any "Marxist" feminist propaganda.
Gee, I wonder where oh WHERE could I EVER find the SJW agenda in nu-Wars?
>MaRey Sue
>Vice Admiral Danger Hair
>Super Leia
>Quippy light hearted bic
>Focus on "muh female heroes"
>Rogue "Muh Diversity" One
>Fuck books.
>None military haircuts.
>Snoke = Trump
>"The Empire is a White Supremacist Organization."
>All-female Lucasfilm story group.
>Le contradictory nigger traitor turned quippy good guy despite years of psychological conditioning from youth.
>Monte Carlo in space = FIGHT THE RICH WHITE PEOPLE!
>Animal Rights Activism bullshit.
I could go on and on, shill. Give me a reason.

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

Nice try faggot, you're all capitalist scum who deserve to burn alive.

More red feminism propaganda

>The fact he even recovered it was impressive
>ROTS made excellent run in box office
>good reviews and strong following
>launched another massive wave of SW for another 5 years
>succeeded by The Clone Wars
>SW died at that time

U wot? The only people thinking SW was dead at that time was out of touch OTpurists. An entire generation of kids grew up enjoying that era.

Don't forget that all male heroes are emasculated. They didn't even let Luke swing his lightsaber for a last showdown except in a flashback where he tries to murder his nephew and in a fake holographic projection. He died alone on a hostile island.
Poe is a flyboy, despite being skilled he's punished because men are always wrong and women are always right.

Wow, I didn't know 164,847 virgins accounted for 7.5 human beings on Earth. Surely, they must be the true voices leading humanity towards prosperity.
Get fucked, alt-right nazi.

What even happens next? This is a trilogy but it feels like nothing is at stake and there isn't any sort of goal outside of vague defeating the other guy for both sides.

Is there a director that would’ve done good service to Star Wars?

Yeah, but it's a pretty bad movie.

Which part of all that is Marxist? All the shit you listed is idpol and feminism, which are actually actually against Marxism since they focus on intersectional issues and divert attention from what truly oppresses society.

Fool. The idealism of communism is for the masses only. Money is still king for those who hold power and influence within a communist system.

>7.5 human beings
Pretty sure you meant 7.5 billion?
In which case, you're wrong.

Those kids also grew up enjoying IV-VI. It's not like the Donner Superman movies where future generations go "these old movies are gayyyyyy".

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>kids
There you go. For us adults, Star Wars died because of those movies.

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I mean that he recovered its reputation and credibility.

>ll the shit you listed is idpol and feminism, which are actually actually against Marxism since they focus on intersectional issues and divert attention from what truly oppresses society.
>Feminism
>"against" Marxism
This proves you understand nothing about Marxism.

Going all in with the Resistance plotlines was pretty stupid. Compare it to Empire when they're done with everything related to the Empire vs Rebels after the scenes on Hoth and the bulk of the movie is about about the characters we know from the previous film.

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>JJ fixed star wars after the mess created by the Prequels
That is false, the movies still exist and there's nothing that anyone can do to erase them from history.
>The fact he even recovered it was impressive
There was nothing impressive about what he did, any movie with the star wars brand would have had the same success regardless.
>The Force Awakens had problems but it satisfied fans and introduced new groups of people to the franchise.
TFA cashed in on nostalgia, it's a dumb disposable movie made for an audience that doesn't really care about movies, the prequels may be awful but are far more original than the force awakens, The Force Awakens caused more damage to the franchise than the majority of people think, they've turn something that was special into quick cash grab brainless movies, enjoy your 2 star wars movies per year.

Oh boy

>any movie with the star wars brand would have had the same success regardless.
>Rogue One and TLJ are both horrible flops
really makes you think...

Marxism=/=communism

I can explain that if you need me to since I'm sure you're not actually sure at all what Marxism is.


>for those who hold power and influence in communist society

When people say "it wasn't real communism", this is the shit they're talking about. If it WAS real communism there wouldn't be people who could subvert the system and influence politics in a way that basically sets up a two class system, with a privileged ruling class and a subservient working class(much like the system capitalism has established).

I'm ready for your reply of "of course you don't think it's communism because it didn't work!", but just think about if a state sets themselves up as nationalists, but all the policy they enact opens up free trade with other countries and they join various coalitions with other states and globalize. Now say this government fails, should it be an example throughout history of the failures of nationalism?

>implying the prequels weren't a shameless cash grab
The Force Awakens has just as much integrity as the prequels

when everything fails

>All the shit you listed is idpol and feminism, which are actually actually against Marxism since they focus on intersectional issues and divert attention from what truly oppresses society.
from the things i've read here, this is what alarmed me the most

Abrams creates messes that other people either struggle with fixing or, like Johnson, just say fuck it and don't even bother because it's too hard to try, better to do nothing and fool morons thanks to Disney's money and power into thinking that it's like so deep, such a brilliant deconstruction.

>fix
You dont understand jews, they live for ruining goyim things and bringing misery and despair to goyim he is having the time of his life seeing how he ruined the childhood of so many white goyim. Hes gonna continue fucking up Star Wars no matter what.

Thank you. This was informative.

>Now say this government fails, should it be an example throughout history of the failures of nationalism?
And unironically made me think.

>164,847 virgins

????

There are only 350 critics who reviewed TLJ

>>Rogue One and TLJ are both horrible flops
Those movies came after TFA.
>>implying the prequels weren't a shameless cash grab
I hate to defend the prequels but at least Lucas tried to tell a story and make something new, he may have failed, but between all that mess there is an actual story that could have been good in the right hands.

This.

Not an argument. I'm waiting for your regurgitated rush Limbaugh talking points about how the Marxist sjw feminists at disney(LITERALLY one of the most capitalistic corporations to ever exist and the fact you retards can spew this bullshit how the one of if not the most capitalistic corporations is pushing for Marxism without an ounce of irony is beyond me) but yes, idpol and feminism are actually detrimental to actual Marxist goals.

Consider why so many capitalist corporations such as disney(but it's not exclusive to entertainment industry) or tech companies push identity politics? Idpol and being "woke" is so useful to capitalism because what does Comcast care if their CEO is a black woman? They're paying the government off and writing the laws that will benefit them and laughing all the way to the bank regardless. And that's why idpol and feminism, and transgenderism and whatever other bullshit is against Marxism. It focuses on things that aren't even real problems and shields the exploitation of the proletariat.

My team at work today were discussing it and saying how it wasn't very good and how it was too shallow, with a lot of people criticising porgs and the not-hoth segment.

Several people said too much was superfluous to the overarching plot.

Disney is making at least 6 more Star Wars films, they made plot holes for a reason.

>JJ fixed star wars after the mess created by the Prequels. The fact he even recovered it was impressive.
Why do you say this like JJ had to undo george's mess. All he had to do was make a movie that wasn't like the prequels. Which literally any director that isn't george lucas can and would do. No one is as jaded and aloof as george lucas in his own fiction.

>The Force Awakens had problems but it satisfied fans
Sufficiency is not satisfaction

>and introduced new groups of people to the franchise.
A out right bad star wars movie would do this. The name alone draws audiences after a 10 year hiatus and a new butt in the director's chair.

>It also introduced new ideas, plot points
Literally what. lmao

>as well as some mystery.
Anyone can write shit they don't have answers for. It's not an accomplishment in the least

>I'm sure he would solve a lot of these new issues and answers the questions asked of by the fans
The first thing everyone knows about JJ is that he is utterly incapable of doing this and is almost famous for it.

Your post is short but the amount of bullshit could fill a 1000 word essay. What the fuck user

That's what you get when you hire people who make tv shows to make cinema, they have zero creativity, all their work is derivative of popular culture, their story telling is redundant or contradictory, which doesn't matter because when you make 25 episodes per season no one is really is paying attention to that, they just make shit up as they go and when they get stuck they recur to the most obvious uninspired cliches.

How about blowing up fourth deathstar?

>It focuses on things that aren't even real problems and shields the exploitation of the proletariat.
This.

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Are you implying that they are making plot holes on purpose, just to make more movies?

TFA was also shit, and he had a big part in the making of TLJ

I dont know why people are acting like hes good at star wars and can save it

Holy shit, you are the real deal. Totally brainwashed.

four titties

>feminism are actually detrimental to actual Marxist goals.
wow, did you really just say that

This Duck is right. It will always be remembered and respected as Ghostbsters reboot series,

He and Johnson are the same type of soy boy cucks as Feig,
Just replace Holdo, Rey, Rose and Leia and you have another SJW disaster.

Rian is based. He's /ourweeb/.

He suck. Mark Hamill hate him too

>not stepping on his

the black one doesnt even look good with all the makeup
also why the super sayan haircut

However that sounds, his method works, it builds up the hype, can be exciting. If Rian actually resolved the plots set up by JJ it would be a great success. But he didn't even try, which was the worst approach imaginable.

>dick

This isn't painting the right picture. The overarching story was already plotted out for sure, because Rian mentioned that he clashed with the story team since the story was supposed to go in a different direction, but eventually they let him do his thing.

Based "Bald Assertion" poster

Hamill doesn't hate him. He disagrees with him. For adults they are two different things.

Kate McKinnon looks completely disgusted on this picture.

>y-y-oure just wrong!

Wow you guys sure showed me!

What's it like disagreeing so vehemently with someone yet being so unsure of why, you're not even capable of responding without merely asserting that they're in the wrong? Curious

>overwhelming success
It has barely passed a billion, that's not an "overwhelming" success when it comes to SW by any means. Especially not for Disney.

IT WAS ALL A DREAM!

Finn awakes from the coma. He learns he will not be able to live without being connected to a suit.

But it wasnt about you anymore. The numbers and success of the Clone Wars multimedia project tell you this.

>recovered its reputation and credibility
It NEVER lost that. You really need to stop listening to delusional OT purists. Ebert was praising TPM for being a true SW film for having adventure, excitement and fantastical world building