You have 10 seconds to point out 1 (one) flaw in this character that would've prevented him from being a perfect king

You have 10 seconds to point out 1 (one) flaw in this character that would've prevented him from being a perfect king

Hard mode: nothing about his sexual orientation

fuck your conditions. fags deserve ridicule

He's dead. It's a pretty crippling disability.

he was gay, he wasn't the rightful heir

How many heirs to le epic throne are there? Christ this series is so stupid.

He ignored succession law like the stinky gay idiot he is

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>if renly had acknowledged Stan's claim and rallied support from highgarden and the stormlands, Stannis would ascend to the throne with (at worst) a short war with the lannisters
He chose his own greed over law and justice, and the realm suffered for it

A king should not be susceptible to anal prolapses

But maybe that is just my old way of thinking

He was naive, he was weak and he had no strategic sensibility. He also made the people suffer as a result of his own greed. His house was pretty much destroyed because of him.

too easily persuaded

He would have thrown it all away for some boipussy and you know it

like 3 or 4

He is a weak faggot and nobody respects fags.

He was at a much higher risk of getting HIV

A lot of showmanship, with no real substance. Supported by nobles because they knew he'd be easily influenced.

This shit happened a LOT in real life. Louis VIII of France was appointed King of England by the English nobility, until the sudden death of King John made gave the 9 year old Prince Henry a claim - suddenly all the Lords abandoned Louis in favour of someone they thought they could easily influence.

He was popular, charismatic and good-looking. That's it. He garnered favors from the Stormlands and the Reach just by having Margaery as his beard and not being Stannis.

>flaw in this character

He'd have to have character to start with.

he is younger than stannis
/thread

FAGS ON PIKES!

Kings should be big and imposing figures as the personification of the might of their countrys might.

Not cute and fuckable.

Since when has "being deserving" had anything to do with being king? Aegon conquered Westeros, and Jon is the rightful ruler. Anything else has to do with might, nothing more.

no kids

If he was a great king he wouldn't be murdered by shadow babies...

He was a pussy that relied too much on his connections with the Tyrells to get by.

He looks like a soy boy

"Robert was the true steel. Stannis is pure iron, black and hard and strong, yes, but brittle, the way iron gets. He'll break before he bends. And Renly, that one, he’s copper, bright and shiny, pretty to look at but not worth all that much at the end of the day."
- Donal Noye

He is gay

Hes not an heir though. Just a fag that got his boipuccis dads army. And he got btfo for it

can't have an heir

civil war ensues when he bites it

also can't fight worth a fuck

Everybody knew he was a homo so nobody would have respected him as the "king" no matter how charming he was

>gay men are sterile
?

wasn't that guy at the wall for like 20 years? How does he have the authority to assess current events?

Since the Rebellion; Renly would've been only a child, Stannis was 18.
Renly isn't as vain as some think but he's still pretty bad. He was wrong about Stannis, too; in the books he's surreptitiously quite flexible.

u fookn wot m8

He wasn't next in the line of succession. Easy peasy fuck off faggo

Good times breed gay men

>surreptitiously quite flexible
e.g.? I never paid much attention to davos/jon chapters

>Setting up a president that might makes right, disrupting the long established social order in Westeros which ultimately would result in total chaos
>Prone to naked nepotism which not only hurts his cause in the long run, but also alienates his followers
>Doesn't take anything seriously, extremely wasteful during a fucking war
>pussy (show) two faced snake (books)

literally drumpf

He cant smile and wink at the same time. Thats bad breeding stock and would have made weak genetically inferior babies that couldnt hope to possibly rule anything without being overthrown by more powerful kingdoms.

>Setting up a president
>president
Stay in school champ

pretty much this

the sparrows will drag his majesty's faggot ass to jail straight from the iron throne

Mance is a traitor to both the NW & the Realm. Not only does Stannis spare him he's using him as an agent within Winterfell to undermine the Boltons. A lot of people think it's Melly's doing but there's too much coordination between Stannis' forces, Crowfood and Mance to be coincidental

I will take more and expose my points, because we are not brainlets on twitter but autists.
1. He cannot have an heir. In a feodalist system, even more in GoT, he is a recipe for certain civil war
2. He has no legitimacy by popularity. Stannis comes first. Since his claim is based on this, and not the law, its an open road for angry houses to rebel or plot
3. He has no military experience nor was raised to rule. While Robert was a wreck, he could win wars, and Stannis could not only lead troops but also manages the state.
4. He is a faggot. Sorry but it counts for the people in a culture where rulers are supposed to appear virtuous. Ground for other houses to build rebellion and civil unrest. See cersei shaming.
5. He is naive. He wouldnt be able to defend himself from assassins. What the shadow did could be done by a lot of means. How would such a naive guy control Boltons or Lannisters ? How could he made people obey ?

Overall, he is not a good candidate and mostly a trend because of his nice manners. He has no claim, no skills, no authority and no hope in the long run.
Mr nice guy is not the one that can hold the crown.

>He cannot have an heir
He's gay, not sterile.

>lmao succesion disputes are stupid and ahistorical

You do know there are plenty of gay people with biological children right?

>5. He is naive. He wouldnt be able to defend himself from assassins.
how do you figure that?

He didnt believe in demons.

Amerimutt detected

oh shit I was just rewatching season 4&5 with some friends the other day and completely forgot that killing mance was a show only thing
I guess it just seemed so in-character for all involved I forgot it was a D&D addition

he was an idiot. if he thought like a king he'd still be alive. he thought for nothing but himself and he died like a bitch

obsessed etc

he literally couldn't force himself to have sex with a woman

>start by pounding some tight boipucci
>wait until you're close
>have wife come in
>put benis in bagina
>finish
it's that simple

How would "thinking like a king" have prevented a demon baby from stabbing him?

Stannis held Storm's End under siege for the entirety of Robert's Rebellion.
He also smashed the entire Iron Fleet during Balon Greyjoy's first uprising.

All Renly ever managed to do was swallow cum and be a pawn of Highgarden.

>a pawn of Highgarden.
I mean essentially this. If renly had taken the throne he would have been as much a pawn of the Tyrells as Tommen. I'm sure he would have been quite content to have all the showmanship and trappings of the king lifestyle while letting Olena and mace rule in the background.

>be two brothers
>if you unite- the throne is yours ezpz
>both decide to be fuckheades
>both die for it

I mean the most obvious is that he was the youngest of the three. Therefore it wasn't his turn to rule.

throne ain't big enough for 2

easy. bend the knee to stannis. have stannis assassinated as stannis declared he will be heir until a son is born to him. lannisters will be defeated. as a member of stannis' council he knows his coming and goings. or stannis dies north and renly becomes king

>thinking like a king
>stop being a king
despite everything you listed, crushing the opposition in a one-sided battle is the smartest option for becoming king

Absolutely 0 right to the throne yet autisticly screeches for it anyway
instead of helping stannis defeat the lannisters and killing him so the throne would actually pass to him

He is dead, thats a huge flaw.

>helps stannis
>tyrells have no incentive to support him
>loses 70% of army
>loses war