I prove you wrong about TLJ (Not a Disney shill)

Give me a “complaint” about TLJ, and I will try to prove you wrong because I actually paid attention to the fucking movie.

it was paced like a kindergartener's school project the dialogue was atrocious and most of what the characters did led up to a big pile of nothing

>paced like a kindergartener's school project
Implying kindergarteners know how filmmaking work
>The dialogue was atrocious
No
>The characters did nothing
Then there wouldn’t be a movie then, would there?

Where did Darth Sneedious come from?

I didn't like it

We still don't know who the new empire and rebellion are and now that snoke is dead we will never know. This contradicts the ending of ep6 and makes no sense
>inb4 it's expained in something that isn't the movies
kys

Woah. Nice arguments, my dude. Why even give a proper rebuttle with explanation and counter-points, when you can spout 1 to 4 word sentences in reply. You sure convinced me.

>how2read

Why did half the movie take place on the ship? It was boring as hell and offputting considering that most star wars movies bounce around multiple planets and settings

>No
So this is the power of your intellect

Strawman, no evidence supporting statement, strawman.

If faggot OP isnt even gunna troll well just Sage in all fields

Nigger if you watched the movie you'd know how shitty it was.

Fake and gay.

Which cultural marxist tenent wasnt included?

>Gynocentrism - where the cultural is forced to revolve around the female worldview

>Gynopartiality- female immorality is applauded while male immorality is criminalized.

>gyno infantalization - women should never be fully responsible for their actions and are to be afforded special privledges

>Vibro Correctness - Minorities cant be held acountable for acting in accordance with their stereotype

>Liberating Tolerance - where tolerance is to be given only to groups advocating the "correct" viewpoint and those advocating the wrong viewpoint must be silenced.

>inclusive not exclusive hegalian - everyone may participate no one may be excluded. Using the hegalian dialectic we have the thesis (inclusivity) the antithesis (exclusivity) and the synthisis (Marxism)

>.04 has been deposited into your account

I did and I liked it.

You made no argument. Thread dropped, sage

>No
Not an argument.

what was the point of the casino world and the whole plotline?

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

Bemicio Del Toro's tryhard stutter was lame.

You're the bald one here, soyboy.
Refute that.

Why does no one get sucked into space when they let Leia in?
How did she recover from getting spaced in only a few hours?
Why did they put the Death Star laser on the ground and not fire it from space?
Why did Luke try to murder a his underage nephew for dreaming of the dark side even though he didn't even believe that Vader was beyond redemption and refused to attack the emperor?
Why does nothing of the republic or their fleet remain?
Why is the Resistance, which was solely created to defend the Republic in case of a FO attack, so hopelessly outmatched?
How did the children at the end know about Luke's sacrifice?
Why is Snoke the supreme Leader even though he had nothing to do with the Empire?
Why didn't Snoke sense Kylo's betrayal?
Why is Rey still more powerful than Kylo?
How did Rey learn in 8 hours (remember the story takes place over a 16 hour timespan and her Skype calls with Kylo prove that they happen simultaneously) what Luke or any Jedi needed years for?
Since TLJ takes place immediately after TFA why is Kylo suddenly thicc?
If Luke came to the island to die then why did he leave a map?
If Luke came to the island to die why hasn't he killed himself yet?
How did Finn learn how to pilot ships?
How did Rey learn to swim?
(cont.)

It wasn't as bad as TFA but half of the movie was completely unneccessary. This unneccessary part was also by far the weakest in the whole movie and only happened because the writers made a character too retarded for people skills.

Why is Leia just floating stationary outside the ship? Did she coast to a stop? In space?
How did she even survive getting blasted by Tie Fighters?
Why would Luke not tell Leia and and rebels that he was not really there and that he was a force projection and he was only going to be able to stall the first order for a short while until they figured it out so they needed to use every second to try and find a way out of the base? By not telling anyone this he sabotages his own plan. If Poe doesn't figure it out then everyone just stands there waiting for him to save them and ends up getting slaughtered. All he had to do was tell Leia "I'm not really here, quick look for a way out while I stall them"
How did Luke, a holographic force projection, hand Leia physical golden dice that Kylo later picked up before they faded into nothingness?
How did rose manage to get in front of Finn to block him when they showed all the planes do a 180 apart from his?
Why the fuck did Yoda not pop up earlier to counsel Luke? What about Obi-Wan?
Why did Yoda not show up at the battle to kill Kylo Ren with a fucking thunderbolt? Why didn’t he kill the Emperor that way?
Why is Rose so dumb that she thinks the horses won't be captured 10 minutes later it's a fucking island and they have space ships?
How can bb8 just go continually solo armies?
How was an entire army in a locked room after Finn and rose broke in with the hacker?
How were Finn and Rose about to be executed with like 800 Stormtroopers and Phasma next to them, but after the blast they're surrounded by like 5 Stormtroopers and Phasma is 200m away from them?
How can the metal of Finn's retarded ski ship melt while Finn didn't sustain permanent injury?
How did the 20 man resistance expect backup fleets within minutes of sending a distress signal when it takes weeks to ready a fleet?
Why does Rey suffer no consequences for giving into the dark side?
(cont.)

Why did all the AT ATs stop shooting completely when only Finn and Rose were left on the speeders?
Why did Finn and Rose seem unconcerned about the fact that they crashed so close to the AT ATs?
How did Finn manage to carry Rose all the way back to the base without getting shot?
How did Rey get from the imperial throne room to the Millenium Falcon?
How did Finn and Rose exit the Raddus, hyperspace jump away, and hyperspace jump back without the FO noticing?
If the FO didn't notice them do that why didn't they evacuate the Raddus that way?
Why doesnt kylo have a big gaping hole from where chewy shot him?
If Kylo had a perfectly good lightsaber, why is his new one so bad/cracking/broken?
Why did none of the FO ships have shields?
If Luke went to the island to die why did he bother learning new things?
Why is Holdo’s sacrifice championed but Finn’s derided and thwarted?
Since when is crashing a ship at 200mph into someone a method of saving their life?
How can you drop bombs in space?
Why doesn’t Anakin show up as a force ghost and reason with Kylo?
Why did the First Order ship not send out a fleet of Tie fighters to finish off the resistance freighter when they knew they only had like 4 x wings left?
Why didn't they just hyperspace in front of the rebel fleet instead of driving behind them for 18 hours?
Since the it took only one bomber to destroy an entire star destroyer dreadnaught, why didnt they just fire those tiny bombs from x-wings since they're so fast that a single x-wing can take out 10 gun batteries?
If Leia could use the force to push things around, why didnt she just push the rocks at the end blocking their exit, instead of relying on Rey luckily returning at that exact moment?
If the rebel fleet can call Maz on a distant planet, why did they need to fly to Crait before calling for reinforcements?
(still cont.)

Finn and Rose went there to find a master codebreaker so they could break onto Snoke’s ship and disable the lightspeed tracker. They were sidetracked because they got arrested for unlicensed parking of a shuttle.

It has dropped the space fairy tale style of the OT.

Why didn't Kylo use any force powers like his force-freeze in the throne room fight?
Why do you let a guy (Poe) who just destroyed your Starkiller base fly up to your ship alone?
What dumb ass fucking plan is flying a single X-Wing with your top pilot up to the front of a dreadnought, letting them know you’re there with some cheesy prank call, and how did that get approved by the chain of command?
Why is Poe treated so terribly after he destroyed Starkiller base a few hours earlier?
Why did destroying Starkiller base not put the First Order on the run at all?
Why does the First Order have infinite resources when the Rebels won ROTJ?
Why does Kylo care about hunting down Luke when Luke is content dying alone and stranded on this retarded planet?
Why is it basically treated like a non-issue that the entire resistance has been killed off and is down to 20 people and the movie ends on a hopeful note with Leia and Rey bonding?
How does Maz Kanata answer the phone in a gun fight knowing exactly what the Resistance needs, who he is, and exactly where to find him? But didn’t help at all with Starkiller?
Why are the horses on canto bight freed but the children left in slavery?
Why does Leia call for help and 10 mins later gives up and accepts nobodys coming?
Why is Kylo Ren sentimental/light side for only twenty minutes with no explanation? Why the sudden change?
Why is the First Order’s crypto so vulnerable that it takes one guy five minutes to “hack” ?
Why do the Stormtroopers need “light axes” for executions specifically and not just normal axes?
How does Hux get to general in his 30s when he’s insanely incompetent?
How do the two most incompetent losers in the First Order end up running the entire show?
Why does Snoke put his ultimate faith in Kylo to kill Rey when Kylo failed his “test” 30 seconds earlier?

>Give me a “complaint” about TLJ
Daisy Ridley was in it.

>I didn't like it
Actually you did

It's an insult to the audience and the fans of the OT, and of mark hamill and yoda and ackbar and so on etc
Its the worst snuff film to ever be released.

Only maybe two classic Star Wars aliens, discounting Chebacca. One of them (Ackbar) had no lines and died without any significance.

yeah but that's really lame

All of the problems Finn and Rose faced on casino planet stemmed from their inability to legally park. When, in the history of ever, has a casino had a lack of free parking?

>OP getting shat on in his own thread
The state of ya lad

Not to mention getting jailed for parking incorrectly, not in some brutal dictatorship, but a casino.

Why didn't Luke face Kylo Ren in person? He dies anyway, why not have him lift the X-Wing out of the water (the logical conclusion of them showing the X-Wing underwater)?

*inhales*
>My guess is they pulled her in through another airlock
>Oxygen mask
>That was a shockwave gun
>My guess is that Luke thought Snoke was too powerful to undo his influence
>Because the Republic was blown to bits in TFA
>Ditto
>I thought they were talking about Luke and Vader
>I have a theory: >
>Kylo was playing mind games with him: Snoke thought he was gonna use his lightsaber on Rey instead of her lightsaber on Snoke

>Because the Republic was blown to bits in TFA
No, no, no, no. The republic is made up of a fucking huge number of planets. Depending on where you go in the universe to get your numbers this could be between a thousand and fifty million. The FO blew up, what, five? And this is supposed to cripple the 'resistance' (which isn't actually the resistance because they're in power, but whatever)??

That bombing scene involving extremely large, extremely slow, extremely vulnerable bombers flying in tight formation. How did they appear that close the the FO fleet without being seen and shot off kilometers away, why are they deployed in a tight formation when they can set each other off when destroyed, why is Leia surprised that all of them got wiped out in action, and who with a functional brain would design (or buy, or fly) such a craft in the first place.

Snokes ship housed a full tie fighter assembly bay. While persuing the rebellion why did the first order not send in way after wave of tie bombers and fighters to cripple the rebel ships

This is the most autistic thing I've seen on TV ever

the whole casino subplot with chink and nigger made no sense and was completely pointless

>Why did Yoda not show up at the battle to kill Kylo Ren with a fucking thunderbolt?
Because he’s dead, and I don’t think darksiders see Force Ghosts.

Ah yes... i find the last jedi rather shallow and pedantic.

>Pretending the Prequels didn’t already ruin the Force and Anakin.

Audiences don’t care.
They just want to temporarily escape the prospect of impending nuclear war.

Where's the image of the 30+ different genders liberals made. That's the same vision blurring this post gave me. You fucks deserve each other.

>Hux/Poe marvel-tier pathetic joke
>superLeia - making fun of dead actress?
>casino part - useless 30 minutes. Think of "The Mummy" monster universe bits everyone hated, somehow here is fine? useless moments with idiotic fairytale 'horses' thing
>lacks of aliens diversity. Aliens are reduced to background. Even casino police are human, while they could be any alien race. Previous SW movies estabilished aliens cooexisting in universe, new movies neearly ignore them. movie promotes itself as "diverse" yet all we see is bunch of humans... which negates point of space opera SW theme
these are my complains

There was no good porg sex scene

This is so fucking funny, like you're so sure of yourself and shit and challenging people to argue with you and your FIRST reply is this. "No". If this is bait, you're a god.

Eagerly awaiting your response to these OP

I don't see how anyone could've read OP and NOT thought it was meant to be bait. I was kind of surprised to see so many serious replies instead of half-assed shitpost replies.
Or am I too cynical?

>Think of "The Mummy" monster universe bits everyone hated, somehow here is fine?
Because it wasn’t a bloated advertisement for movies that hadn’t been written yet

>extremely large, extremely slow, extremely vulnerable bombers flying in tight formation
what happened to Y-Wings and B-Wings?

He said give him "A" complaint. Not "multiple complaints".
Technically not playing within the rules, so he's probably justified in skipping until you format properly into individual posts.

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

...

>Entire movie is based on an 18 hour chase
>Rey visits Jedi island for multiple days of training
>Rey and Kylo are force connected several times on several different Jedi Island days
>Kylo is on the Supremacy chasing the ship

The times don't add up - and no you can't say the planet had faster day/night cycles because it had binary suns - if anything they would have longer days. Time dilation still wouldn't have changed real time occurrences.

1. Define a "female world view" what specifically makes something a "feminine" view.
If anything you could argue that the 'Resistance" philosophy is masculine in that it is confrontational and violent. The only thing feminine about it is that their leaderships is all women

>Female immorality is applauded
Where..? You mean when Rey attacks Luke? I don't think this was meant to be applauded. We're talking about a scene that's dark and storm and with a vengeful looking lady pulling a light saber on a passifist.

>Infantalization
There aren't really any actions for women to be held accountable for. Poe does all the decisions for the Rebels, Finn has his side quest. Rey does something but she's "accountable" in the sense that she's captured at least.

>Minorities aren't accountable etc
Wat. The only one I can think of fitting this would be Finn "abandoning" the ship but considering that he's considered a traitor for that he's held accountable

>Liberating tolerance
This is how the world works nigga. If you literally have space-nazis that are trying to exterminate you then you should fight back. That's obvious.

>Hegelian etc
Wat.

Why did Rey not kill Kylo after they were both knocked unconscious and she woke up first?
Why did they just brush this aside by saying she took an escape pod?

1. They forgot. Its dumb.
2. Magic. That's how the force works my nigga. Its dumb.
3. Something as stupid and theatrical as a 'battering ram canon' is clearly something that lacks sophisticated computers. They placed it on the ground because it lacks a means of rotating/account for height. A stupid design flaw, but consistent.
4. Feelings. Luke "felt" that Vader wasn't beyond salvation despite almost all evidence to the contrary. He relied on his senses there. So when he "felt" that his nephew could not be saved (despite evidence) he acted on his senses. Again, I don't agree with it, but its plausible.
5. Plot holes. Apparently they contacted them on the "outer rim" but for some reason they weren't anywhere close to central command or for the assault on the Starkiller base (seeing as TLJ takes place shortly after TFA)
6. Casino money apparently.
7. ???
8. He apparently finances everything.
9. Because feelings are vague. Rey and Snoke both sensed a "change" but without specifics. The dialogue obviously points to how Kylo hated his "enemy" but that Snoke misidentified that target.
10. Plot armor and idiocy. #imwithher
11. Huh? What did she even learn? How to sense the feelings of other people?
12. Who cares. Did we even see Kylo shirtless before?
13. Plot holes or an accident?
14. Its not the jedi way I guess, or from a duty of penitence: to live with his guilt.
15. Finn is a storm trooper and flew with Poe among other times. Also its not a space-shape but a terrestrial one.
16. Rey cannot have a flaw. That'd be interesting. #MeToo

17. A pretty petty hold up. Presumably because she subconsciously clung to the ship with the force. Probably because it looks nicer though.
18. She didn't get hit by them, the ship did.
19. Petty as well. I don't think anyone reasonably expected him to single-handedly destroy the entire FO army. Also this would undercut the entire reveal and drama of the scene.

>Gynocentrism
I thought this was when a man has puffy nipples

>Why is Kylo Ren sentimental/light side for only twenty minutes with no explanation? Why the sudden change?
He never changed. He was tried of being pushed around and was impressed by Rey’s mysterious powers. He was trying to pull her to the Dark Side.

Force Awakens was nothing more than intro to new trilogy either.
A New Hope works as standalone movie, but Force Awakens doesn't. TLJ as standlone movie is even worse.

20. Luke and Leia have a force connection, and presumably because Luke died after his fight with Kylo but was alive before then to continue the illusion for leia.
21. Prioritizing drama over logic. Not always a bad decision even though this one certainly was.
22. Plot holes. Or, if you want to justify it, because his feelings were opened up to the force. Earlier in the movie Rey says she feels nothing from him, but when he uses his powers to destroy her hut he's evidently become connected once more. This opens him up the same way that turning on your FM radio does i guess.
23. Plot holes or some weird Starfleet-esque non-intervention policy.
24. Drama > logical details. It makes sense for her characterization and the thematic through-line. Reasonably? Its not likely they'd continue free. But maybe they'd last a while. Her point still stands if they get even a few days of freedom.
25. Toy sales and "comic" relief.
26. Multiple entrances? Or because they didn't need to hack. Hardly matters really: the movie shouldn't have to hold your hand over such a minute detail.
27. Plot contrivance. You just have to take it on faith that they were miraculous unharmed but all the others were.
28. ???
29. Based on what? where in the movie did it say a fleet took weeks? And where does it say that the fleet wasn't already "ready" but just not in the same quadrant?
30. The problem is that she never really does "give in". There is glimpses with her use of the light saber and going to the cave, but neither is really that meaningful of a change. Luke, in comparison, actually killed his father (in his vision).

31. Stupidity or arrogance.
32. Stupidity.
33. Stupidity.
34. They met up again off-screen. Not that unreasonable that she took snoke's ship in the chaos and later communicated.
35. Don't remember.
36. Don't remember.
37. Because he wore armor obviously. That was kind of the point of him surviving in the first point
38. Rule of cool

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

Refute all of their points.

Go on, we're waiting.

39. They never said that. In fact I'm pretty sure they yell "shields up" or something before the LS ram. Either way the implication is that nothing can defend them from it. Dumb. But not a plot hole.
40. Where did it say he learned new things? He has the books, and evidently he has tried to learn about the old jedi order. I think the implication is that he tried to teach "by the book" and unintentionally misled himself and others. He studied more and realized that he didn't need any of the information.
41. Holdo' accomplished something. Finn's was unnecessary. That said, it appeared meaningful in the moment so its a dumb decision.
42. Plot / thematic contrivance.
43. Starwars is an overt WW2 homage. I don't give a shit about bombs dropping in space that much. Its also canon with all the other movies.
44. "Feelings" are opened up to. If Kylo's character is being obstinate and continually rejecting his teaching he cannot connect to the force of jedi.
45. Plot hole.
46. Plot hole.
47. Didn't they need the payload of an entire bomber? Those don't fit on an x-wing. And if they did they'd no longer be fast.
48. Leia's powers were pretty obviously subconscious.
49. Plot hole / they knew she was closer somehow. Pretty sure they said that their reinforcements were on the outer rim. Either way, they could have sent their own scout out to contact them.

50. Because, evidently, this would tie up one of his hands and leave him more vulnerable by splitting up his concentration and energy. He was also never shown using this power on someone that was trained or a fighter, nor on multiple people. Also it would make for a garbage anti-climactic fight.
51. They don't know him personally, and because of LE JOKES XD
52. iirc he deliberately disobeyed commands to risk his life doing that and then double down to risk their bombers against it as well. That's kind of the whole crux of the movie is that it was a bad idea. No?

53. Stupidity and casino money apparently.
54. Dat casino money boi
55. The same reason he cares about killing his father / mother. He wants to rid himself of redemption in order to gain power.
56. That's the theme of the movie.
57. Plot contrivance and comic relief.
58. The horses can stay free themselves, forage on their own, and cause more chaos for them. Also it'd be free for those kids to utilize the chaos to free themselves. But presumably, like with other slaves in TPM, you can't just "run" away.
59. Because everyone has lightspeed travel. If their coms are received instantly (a decent presumption in the starwars universe) then having no response = they're fucked.
60. Most of the movie he's conflicted actually. Its only the very end that he changes. The question is why he wasn't resolved in the beginning after having killed his father in TFA.
61. He's the 'master code breaker'. That's his thing. It was never implied that it was easy, just that their guy was good. How some rando was so good i have no clue
62. Rule of cool.
63. "comic" relief and nepotism. Most of the generals in the OT also seemed pretty incompetent and ineffectual
64. ^ and plot contrivance.
65. His test? You mean with killing leia? Or not killing Rey earlier? That was 18 hours --> 1 day ago. And he did successfully kill his dad. He wasn't that much of a disappointment. Also its less about having faith, and more about using it as a tool to solidify Kylo as a sith.

1. Arguable. There's obvious thematic value and coherence in the plot lines besides the Canto-Bite stuff. Poe failing twice despite risks, then learning to tactical retreat, etc. Rey learning that faith in false-idols can be deceptive and thus getting self-confidence. Finn tries to sacrifice himself needlessly... It wasn't executed great, but the storyline had a deliberate point besides action.

2. She's terrible. She effectively makes no mistakes in the entire movie. Predicts Kylo's turn before Snoke, lectures Luke on morality, does bigger feats in less time, doesn't get as tempted (if at all) by the dark side, etc. Awful.

3. Agreed. He's not entirely pointless, but his "arc" is just a boss fight with General Phasma. Extremely under utilized.

4. The point is to interjected moral ambiguity, justify being able to infiltrate the ship, to characterize Rose, to illustrate that other worlds are untouched, and to explain army financing. Its far from needless even if it is tangential and less interesting.
5. Yeah idk how they justify not telling Poe or anyone about their plan. Functions to further the plot's themes but its contrived.
6. Yup.
7. This is how the previous masters were treated, and if you view the TLJ as its own film along with TFA its reasonable.

8. They're poorly characterized and explained.

9. Fair enough.

10. Perhaps not a fair comparison seeing as the movies haven't been out as long. The prequels generally design far more interesting stuff though.

12. Yeah. Its boring and non-sensical. Typical DisneyWars.

Not OP btw.

The only real problem I have is that Holdo still kept quiet about her plan after the mutiny. If Leia hadn't happened to wake up at just the right time they would have all ended up dead. So why didn't she say anything even when a bunch of idiots with no plan were going to wreck her plan by force?

How did Leia get back in the ship without everyone else getting sucked out?
You can see them hit the button to open the airlock and a snatch of an airlock opening sound. They should all be dead in space now.

Probably the same tech that keeps hangars safe

Does Disney own Family Guy etc. now?
I'm speaking to a guy and he thinks they only bought the movies.

It hasn't happened yet, but when it does they will get the TV and the movies. The only parts of Fox they're not getting are Fox News and Fox Sports.

Hyper space ramming invalidates the rest of the SW movies, and all combat in the SW universe as a whole

How did Holdo hyperspace ram the imperial ships if her ship was out of fuel and hyperspace jumps eat lots of fuel?
If hyperspace jumps burn a DIFFERENT kind of fuel (ass-pull fuel), then why didn't the other ships at least try hyperspace jumping before they fell behind and got fragged by the star destroyers?
Why didn't they spam tie fighters at the capitol ship? Didn't Kylo already wipe out their entire fighter fleet? Fighters apparently have nothing to fear from capital ship guns, as Poe established in the opening scene.

the new characters are boring except for kylo

What bothers me the most is that the first order apparently rules the Galaxy now. No fucks given that they lost their superweapon. No explanation how they took over. This conflict between FO and Resistance feels like two African warlords duking it out in the deepest Congo. No one cares in the universe why should we care as viewers?

>Give me a “complaint” about TLJ
Finns unattractive and has too much screen time. Same with Rose.

The scenes with the horses was out of place, poorly written, and preachy
The entire plot hinging around a resistamce vessel that would run out of space gas in one day is slapdash and not very star wars
The creature designs are one note
Johnson cut too many threads started from TFA (including the mystery of Snoke's origin, the Knights of Ren, and how Luke's lightsaber ended up in Maz's hands)

But it's so impractical. It's such a specific circumstance, where it's one on one and the ship doing it is able to evacuate everyone. Then that ship is gone as well. Plus if we're talking about the death star, no one had a ship even near big enough to do any damage. It would be like a fly on a windshield.

You could accelerate a fucking tiny stone to hyperspace and the impact would probably destroy the deaht star. Just strap a hyperdrive to a meteor and have a Droid ram it into anything. It's the equivalent of a thousand nukes

I think had she not crashed immediately the hyperspace would have only lasted a few seconds due to the low fuel

Hyper space ramming
Are you going to tell me there are no hyper space a wing size torpedoes because she was the first to think of a kinetic strike? Really? Go fucking kill yourself.

>It's the equivalent of a thousand nukes
The one we saw didn't even destroy its target. It sliced right through and it seemed like any sections that weren't immediately decompressed were fine for quite a while.

A kinetic strike at light speeds is impractical? Off yourself senpai. The millenium falcon alone could decimate a planet.

>But it's so impractical
No it's not. It allows a ship to travel faster than C in real space. At those speeds, a 1kg object has more force than the most powerful atom bomb.
>It's such a specific circumstance, where it's one on one and the ship doing it is able to evacuate everyone.
Literally none of that is true. Even X-wings have hyperdrives, and with hyperdrive ramming they could be turned into weapons capable of destroying planets, let alone something like the deathstar. And they don't even have to risk a pilot, droids can pilot them.
>Then that ship is gone as well.
And it takes with it a super weapon and an entire fleet. Saying this is a dumb as a general saying "Oh no, my tomahawk missile is gone! It doesn't matter that it destroyed the enemy base, this is war, we can't be losing things!"
>Plus if we're talking about the death star, no one had a ship even near big enough to do any damage. It would be like a fly on a windshield.
Not how physics work moron. Force=Mass*acceleration. By your logic, bullets shouldn't be able to kill people because they are very small compared to us.
An object of any mass and thus any size can become destructive if given enough acceleration. And hyperspeed allows for travel faster than C, thus near infinite acceleration, meaning near infinite energy.

Sure m8 and what if the torpedo expanded to have a frontal web design, a tiny torpedo that splays a mesh a football field wide suddenly turns into a conplete and utter wall of destruction. Lets not even get into pushing out watermelon size ball bearings in front of a torpedo before pushing it forward, creating a scatter shot of complete and utter death.

It bisected the massive, thousands of KM wide ship and then did the same to the entire rest of the enemy fleet. One ship for an super weapon and an entire fleet is any commanders wet dream

(this keyboard sucks) how about we start with something other then another empire?

prequels werre rooting for the republic against the rebels

then were cheering for the rebels against the empire

now were supposed to cheer for the rebels again?

i dont understand why they didnt make these 3 movies about luke trying to make the order of the jedi back again in the first movie. he fucks it up somehow and a faction splits

boom second movie. you have the jedi and some kind of dark or other jedi against each other. luke and co try to change this but at the end of the second movie he realizes that the force needs balance

3rd movie: some dumb civil war style with a bunch of jedi's fighting and at the end luke dyes saving his protege and they come to an armstice (sith or dark jedi)

now give me a million dollars disney

I was going to say the shields would probably hold if the attacking ship was much smaller, but then I remembered TFW fucked that idea right up.

The whole plot was centered around that a "jump to hyperspace" was an all-or-nothing thing when it came to fuel reserves, suggesting either the acceleration is where the fuel is burnt or the deceleration. They never said anything like "Let's string together like 10,000 small hyperspace jumps and see if they can track us through all of them"

It was an uninspired flick that took risks as safely as possible. Luckily for its creators, this franchise has the whiniest fanbase imaginable, and they had a temper tantrum about it.

Don't forget that's ignoring the fact that hyperdrives have been around in star wars In the EE it was 25,000 years IIRC, though in canon we know it's at least 4,000 years.
There is less time separating us right now from the Neolithic Revolution, the beginning of all civilization on earth, than there is between TLJ and the discovery of hyperspace. And in all that time, nobody figured out it could be weaponized.
Meanwhile in real life it took only a little more than a century to go from discovering the atom to creating the atom bomb.

Front or back sorry. You could also have what turns into four torpedoes, each side carrying a net that spreads out however wide you want. Then you fire it into a planet. A square mile, more if you want, straight through a planet. Not even adding any other effects of the device but the initial strike. Even if it did follow your absolutely retarded wrong version of physics

We figured out pretty early we could throw rocks at each other. That is essentially what we are talking about here.

It is world breaking. Even the most hack fantasy writer would not fall into this trap. Somehow one of the biggest fantasy franchises ever got greenlite to do it.

>It is world breaking. Even the most hack fantasy writer would not fall into this trap. Somehow one of the biggest fantasy franchises ever got greenlite to do it.
Yep. It'll be interesting to see how they write themselves out of this one.

>how about we start with something other then another empire?
The old canon revied the Empire like, several times, but nobody seems to begrudge that.