HAVE YOU SEEN STAR WARS?

HAVE YOU SEEN STAR WARS?

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Who are these fags?

I can't stand how these three - Mike and Rich in particular, have the ego to consider themselves knowledgeable about SW but would be the first to shudder and recoil if questioned about the EU or anything that actual fans would care about.

Mike and Rich don't give a shit about Star Wars beyond the original 3 being good movies. Their autism lies in Star Trek.

Mike is clearly a Trekkie, most of his observations are through the lens of Star Trek. Rich less so, but he's usually right there with Mike when he starts talking about a particular Star Trek episode/theme.

The new one? No.

>actual fans
>EU
get fucked KOTOR guy

god RLM really sucks these days

Who was more let down?

What does ego have to do with what you're talking about, you fucking autist?

You can be knowledgeable about The Star Wars movies without giving two shits about the EU. The EU isn't necessary whatsoever to love the films.
Quit being a fag.

Jim, Mick, and Reinholdt.

They care about movies and moviemaking not a bunch of insufferable young adult novels for kissless virgins you stupid faggot

>HAVE YOU SEEN STAR WARS?

>care about moviemaking
>get triggered by any Star Wars movie that's not stock standard Hero's Journey

James is actually optimistic and not a cynical asshole like RLM. So him I guess RLM doesn't care either way they make there review on it thats it.

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How is it possible to be a spazoid sperg and a guido chad at the same time?

You don't think James isn't working from Mike and Ryan's approved talking points?
>normies like it so you do too
>pretend to have a genuine friendship with Mike in this video
>don't be overly critical of huge flaws

Is that a female la luz extinguido on the left?

Who's that manchild?

How is this calling out RLM?

Not directly but mike was making fun of star wars fans during the TLJ review and the whole nerd crew thing

I've never taken the nerd crew bit as mocking people who are "passionate" about a series, but more so a parody of all the geek culture podcasts that force everything to 11 while being obvious sellouts

james literally says he doesn't care and understands that star wars now is a cashgrab. he spend half the review talking about other films lmao

For me, it's probably just Rich's demeanor in particular. Not really about Star Wars, just in general. Not as bad as Aids Moby, but still bad.

I would agree, how self assured he seems about his star wars assessment, especially in this video, is off-putting. He acts like he has some kind of special insight on to why star wars is failing, which is an obvious case, and he's still wrong. Rich is just a fat clown, nothing more.

I went twice, opening week and on January 1st 10am.

I'd just woke up sleeping on a mate sofa, went to McDonalds for breakfast and thought I'd use my annual cinema pass to see it again.

Also I needed somewhere dark to sit and couldn't face going home yet.

Strategically took a piss during the casino scene.

Left feeling empty. It really is bad a second time.

Sure but needing to by the merchandise of the franchise you are mocking for a joke seems a bit stupid like those people that would by a PS3 or Xbox and smash it in-front of the line waiting to get there own just so they could post it on YouTube. Like make an actual video critiquing it instead of coping out and doing the easy mocking route.

TIE FIGHTERS!

You kinda hit it on the head for me. His ideas about "this is what they needed to do/what you do it/etc" is just shit. His ideas are idiotic, the lack of ability to think creatively about a subject, such as implying Star Wars is constrained to a stupid simple tale that is creatively bankrupt, is rather obnoxious (although I will admit that if you are trying to tie the series to merchandise to the public, then yes, it is limiting, as the mass audience really only want imagery, visuals and products that they know and enjoy.) Looking at the myriad of stories that have been set within the universe that have deconstructed what Star Wars is, then proclaiming that telling another story similar to that is a dumb idea, is just obnoxious and smug. That being said he's entertaining, I just have learned to never take anything he says seriously ever.

Nobody can refute their point of these "fans" behaving like children and fucking crying and cheering for a goddamn trailer. About every Star Wars con being almost like a political rally where their candidate could do no wrong. These "fans" who form cults around these movies and show up at cons and buy merchandise worth tens of thousands of dollars is why the Star Wars and all other franchises will keep getting milked like the cash cow they've made them to be.

>its another EU fag

For fucks sake, NONE OF IT IS CANON. The shitty books you bought have no bearing on the films. Stop acting like they do because you have regret over wasting your fucking time on them.

The RLM guys are exactly the same as those consumerist fanboys though. Having fewer merchandising props on your desk as you discuss how much you like schlock like TFA doesn't make you better than those nerds that buy graphic t-shirts. Disney can slap the marvel logo on any old shit and Mike, Jay and Rich will be first in line to see it. Then they'll come back and talk about how much they love it. They're plebs that have drawn an imaginary line between themselves and other fanboys.

Most actual fans DON'T care about the EU, just a few fanboys.

That's why most of us weren't sold by the promises of a "deep pull" from the canon in TLJ.

One small group of people buying some merch to use as props in an online parody video is insignificant next to the masses of obsessed fanboys (and fangirls) who buy them just to be sheep.

And they did make the critique video, too (and then took repeated shots at TLJ during their latest Best of the Worst video, as well).

Well, they go see those movies to review them.

Being a fan of something is not the same as being a mindless fanboy.

Reading the EU ruins the original trilogy. The yuuzan thongs ruin any weight thise movies had by making it insignificant.

Exactly. Reviewing schlock is their lives. And they almost always enjoy it. They like all the marvel shit. They loved TFA. Mike even liked Jurassic World. They're ultra plebs. It's weird that they make fun of people that like the same schlock as they do, but who also buy accompanying merchandise. Those fanboys are one rung beneath RLM on the ladder of consuming shit and yet Mike and Jay often act like there's a big difference between themselves and the rest of nerd culture. There isn't.

That 'subverted expectations' running gag in the Best of the Worst video was them taking one giant shit on TLJ.

sneed

Even after how shit TLJ was, Mike and Jay will still be there on opening day for the Han Solo movie and Ep 9. Seems pretty mindless.

Maybe it's a kind of knowing satirization. They know they are retarded knuckle draggers too but they know it is wrong. But they don't want to be right. You see how they like shitty B movies and say corny stuff is alright with them. It's kind of a Sup Forumslike "it's popular with normal people so it's bad" type of satirization

THey're film reviewers. They have a reason to be there other than mindless support of a brand name.

Not him but their film reviews have spoilers in them. They aren't really intended to watch before you see the movie to see if you should watch it. it is just there to poke fun at shitty movies. Why do you think they only review bad movies for the most part and don't just review art house films?

Mike didn't like Thor Ragnarok and they universally hated the DCEU and the Ghostbusters remake. Also they criticize Disney a lot in their TLJ and Thor Ragnarok reviews which was something I didn't expect outside of here. That line about the behind the scenes footage being real from the OT and PT and extremely fake in the nuWars was spot on and then Jay says "Welcome to Disney".

Yes, that's what I was referring to.

There were a couple of other shots at it, as well.

It's been a while since I watched their reviews, but my recollection is not that they "loved" TFA. They simply thought it was an improvement over the prequels (which it was). The same opinion was pretty common here at the time (also for R1).

You seem to have a pretty narrow definition of what a review can be.

which one is better

>it is just there to poke fun at shitty movies
half the time they like the movie.
>and don't just review art house films
They're youtubers, garbage arthouse film reviews wouldn't get clicks.

Review: A guy saying whether a movie is good or not and thus whether you should see a movie or not based on his opinion.

RLM's main service is rather comedic satirization of a movie for how bad it is for individuals who don't intend to ever see it.

A bald assertion isn't an argument. I've already refuted your representation based arguments. Give me something else.

>top 10 anime teamups fans want most

A bald assertion of an opinion is generally what an argument is

>half the time they like the movie.
You don't watch Red Letter Media videos do you? I think I've seen maybe 3 where they like the movie. Terminator Genesys, Prometheus, Star Wars Rogue One, Batman v Superman, Lone Ranger, Fantastic 4, TLJ, Star Trek Into Darkness, Power Rangers, Justice League, Ghost Busters, Transformers, HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

>now is a cashgrab
>NOW
It was a cashgrab from RotJ onwards. The prequels themselves were made for the express purpose of generating more merchandise.

EBIN NEW MEEM

You cannot seriously assert that George Lucas just made the prequels to make more merch and get more money. There had to be a spark of creative vision there that he wanted to convey.

>you can't be a fan of a movie unless you read a book
Star wars EU fags everyone.

Who gives a fuck about the EU? Its shit.

This video is Good.
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Maybe they just like the movies, so they're "knowledgeable" about the 3 originals.

Convenient of you to exclude the slew of MCU movies they review which they always love.

>TLJ comes up in BoTW
>AIDSmoby triggered into oblivion
>in fact AIDSmoby barely talks at all

They also usually mark the portion of the review that contains spoilers so you can skip to the recommendations at the end. That's a review.

If they were just out to review "bad" movies, they would stick to their Best of the Worst series and not bother with Half in the Bag, because a lot of those movies they actually like.

It's almost like you've never actually watched their videos beyond Plinket reviews and Best of the Worst. Half in the Bag is a review series by your own standard.

They liked BR2049 (though Mike thought it could have been trimmed a bit). IIRC, they were mixed to somewhat positive on IT. I recall that they liked Cowboys and Aliens (for what it was). A lot of the complaints they have most of the time are more about general trends in cinema than specific films, and they frequently recommend movies while admitting they aren't perfect. You know, like normal reviewers do.

exactly.

Now we can discuss something that actually matters like the origins of Boss Nass? Or the lightbright on darth vader's suit?

I agree. Mike had a couple of ideas for "different" Star Wars stories and Rich just kept shouting them down. He can really be aggressively stupid.

>There had to be a spark of creative vision there
Problem is he never fanned it into a flame, he let that same tiny spark try to light up 6+ hours of film.
Yes it absolutely was a cashgrab.

Modern Star Wars fans are fucking gross.

*GLURP*

They didn't love Thor: Ragnarok. And (off the top of my head) they've had plenty of complaints about the Spiderman and Captain America films. Sometimes they recommend them for fans of the franchise in the end, but that doesn't mean they unreservedly "love" them. Not everything can be reduced to love/hate: there's a lot of room in between those extremes.

>It's almost like you've never actually watched their videos beyond Plinket reviews and Best of the Worst. Half in the Bag is a review series by your own standard.
I watch almost exclusively Half in the Bag. Every HitB of these movies are them laughing at how bad the films are.

This, his whole sulking about "we'll never beat Titanic" in the BTS prequel footage is telling.

>ywn play with Mike's balls and then lick the head of his dick just a little

That's because you've cherry-picked a few particularly bad examples out of the dozens of films they have reviewed.

I mean, are you seriously going to complain that they had essentially nothing good to say about the Transformers films?

Weirdo

>You cannot seriously assert that George Lucas just made the prequels to make more merch and get more money.

Yes, you can. Virtually everything in the prequel trilogy is in the service of producing the maximum number of assets as possible that can be released as merchandise.

>tfw somehow I can sniff out all the films they hate and those just happen to be the ones I watched videos of

Are you saying I'm a psychic?

>film majors disregard fanfiction
>autistic Starwars fans thinks they are canon
Fuck off cuck.

But then why did he make the prequels in such a way that a huge core fanbase of the original movies would hate them and thus be less likely to buy that merchandise?

>film majors
>get stuck making youtube videos for a living
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No, but you probably already knew most of those films were bad by reputation and sought out those reviews to watch.

This as opposed to watching reviews of movies that you actually wanted an honest opinion on, because you went in with the preconceived idea of it being about people making fun of bad movies. And now there's confirmation bias at work.

They really are bias to Marvel movies, but those movies are so generic and safe. That they are "decent" flicks.

And then after seeing those reviews I'll know not to look at RLM for honest opinions ;^)

Not that I really look for opinions on movies rather than just watching them since I don't go to the TheatRe and thus don't have to pay before I see a movie

And make bank and earn infamy for it ;3

The same exact reason why the ST is made with complete contempt and indifference for OT and PT fans.

There's an entire new generation of troglodytes growing up with even worst taste then the previous. I have seen first hand Sup Forums go from accepting the shiftiness of the PT as a given, to unironically defending the prequels. That isn't people changing their opinions, that's newfags that grew up on the prequels that are now old enough to know about Sup Forums changing the consensus.

In 10 years, we will have a majority of Sup Forums unironically defending the sequels.

I disagreed with their opinion on rogue one

>In 10 years, we will have a majority of Sup Forums unironically defending the sequels.
They are right now nigger. Not realizing that both are shit compared to the prequels. The only difference is people can consider the new Disney movies glorified fanfiction.

They unironically said The Rocketeer was a better and more enjoyable film than Captain America: The First Avenger. I'm not sure they are as biased towards Marvel as you might think.

>And then after seeing those reviews I'll know not to look at RLM for honest opinions ;^)
No. That's PRECISELY what "confirmation bias" is.

Try watching some of their reviews of better films before you write them off.

>Not that I really look for opinions on movies rather than just watching them
Still good to know whether a given film is worth two hours of your time.

Terminator Genesys=rotten
Prometheus=fresh
Star Wars Rogue One=fresh
Batman v Superman=rotten
Lone Ranger=rotten
Fantastic 4=rotten
TLJ=fresh
Star Trek Into Darkness=fresh
Power Rangers=rotten
Justice League=rotten
Ghost Busters=fresh
Transformers=rotten
5/12 fresh among that sampling of films
Not exactly overhelmingly bad by rotten tomatoes standards.

Sure was a fuckton of merch for the prequels if lucas didn't have that in mind

Obviously he had that in mind too but it was not the sole reason. Otherwise why did he even direct himself, why not just produce and throw in some lackey as director so as not to waste yacht time?

The Rocketeer was way better then the Cap movie because it was actually a better movie. Also, it had real Nazis.

>RT scores
Really? You're going there?

FFS,
>TLJ=fresh
and
>Ghost Busters=fresh
says all that needs to be said about those.

The only arguably passable ones on the list are Prometheus and Rogue One.

Agreed, but the point is that if they admitted that, then they can't be all that biased toward Marvel.

>Prometheus and Rogue One
>passable
Neither of these two movies I watched more than once. Any movie that does not entice me to rewatch it is not passable.

Because fans of the OT had grown up, and Lucas makes SW for kids, to maximize toy profit potential. Each generation gets dumber. Shit that appealed to 70's/early 80's kids was too fucking "brainy" for late 90's/00's kids.

The Rocketeer was also made during a different time. When they created movies. The current Marvel movies are part of a cinematic universe part of a well oiled assembly line movie machine. Producing "crowd pleasing" to make back their investments from 10 years ago.

>Try watching some of their reviews of better films before you write them off.
Well given I thought Rogue One, Star trek into Darkness, Batman vs Superman and Prometheus were 'good' and I listed them there...

But anyway I've seen some of their other videos for films they didn't hate but obviously didn't mention them in that post since it was noting how frequently they dislike movies. I don't really 'get' their general thrust of what they view as criteria for a 'good' movie though because much they complain about in the bad movies generally applies to the Marvel shlock they like as well. Other stuff just doesn't seem relevant to my interests as I am one of those grimdarkfags who loves grimdark and they do not agree at all with me there as they want lighthearted and fun experiences.

Another problem is they tend to review big budget crap, which makes it hard for me to think any of it is genuinely good. I mean, do I think Rogue One or Batman vs Superman are good "In My Opinion" or "For My Taste"? Yes. However, one is part of a series of yearly excretions of a giant corporation calculated to sell as many tickets as possible as part of an existing marketing roll out for an obscenely profitable well regarded IP and the other is still mentally ill man in a bat suit against mentally ill alien with trust issues in a leotard, so really, genuinely, pretty much all superhero movies are probably bad by default since they're all innately shlock aimed at selling to wide audiences even when they fail to do so by using established IPs with little if any literary or artistic merit aimed at children.

So realistically they're both still crap on those facts alone.

>I thought... Star trek into Darkness... were 'good'
Some of those other films you listed were shit; but this was a flaming fucking abortion.