Can we have a healthy discussion thread about this movie without all the Sup Forumstards sperging out? I'm sincerely pretty disappointed. Lots of plot holes and bad character development.
The whole scene in the casino planet was poorly written. How did they got arrested but somehow the ship wasn't confiscated? If the decoder got the key to get out of the cell, why he was there at first place?
Another thing that pissed me off was that all of the sudden Jedi are like semi-gods now. How can you explain the survival of Leia after the collapse of that room? Does the battle between Luke and Kylo Ren even make sense?
It was a shitty movie and a rape of Star Wars lore. You don't have to be a Sup Forumstard to realize that.
Star Wars is dead.
Mason Lewis
FUCK OFF WITH THE STAR WARS THREADS ALREADY
Jackson Butler
>By itself, it was a mediocre movie. >As a star wars movie, it was terrible. Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.
Logan Brown
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Grayson Foster
mind focused on profit
Justin Moore
mind focused on BRAAAAAP
Eli Robinson
>pol/tards fuck off cunt everyone hates this shit movie, except for those fags in the shipping general
Charles Thompson
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Christian Reyes
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Jason Allen
I wish we could, OP, but they seem to be here in force tonight. They're probably from therightstuff.biz or some other Alt Right site proper, rather than Sup Forums. It's too organized and widespread to be organized by people on Sup Forums.
Kevin Garcia
>good guys side 99% people of color/women (except salt planet where the frontlines inexplicably become 100% white men)
>bad guys side 99% white men
What are the mathematical odds of the First Order assembling that many white men with the diversity of aliens/droids/etc in the Star Wars universe?
Inb4 “they were a human supremacy” doesn’t explain how they still have 99% white men
>FO is 99% white men That isn't even true, we don't know the races of stormtroopers, Phasma is a woman, and prominent bridge officers on Hux's ship are shown to be WOC.
Liam Torres
Okay, so the only black stormtrooper escaped and joined the good guys side
Tells you all you need to know
Ryder Lewis
Bad, but still better than TFA. If you think TFA was remotely good for the saga then you literally know nothing about Star Wars and were only ever in it for stupid shit like effects.
Everything was rehashed and regurgitated in TFA. Main protagonist was flat and annoying. Added nothing to the story, blew up the Republic for no reason, trashed the legacies of the heroes of the OT and did nothing innovative. Pure unadulterated cancer that will end up the least rewatched iteration.
Wyatt Carter
>the only black stormtrooper 1) This isn't established at any point 2) The leader of the FO's stormtrooper divisions is a woman 3) The FO was founded by a black woman
Justin Gonzalez
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Jack Diaz
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John Morales
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Jason Ward
>not greatly written It has horrible writing And the only thing worse than the writing is the acting I guess maybe the radiant quests, too
It’s obvious the point they were making. How can you explain the obvious disparity in diversity, even if the First Order wasn’t 99% white males (which it is) what’s the reason for the obvious discrepancy in a “diverse” universe?
And no I don’t give a shit about children's books and neither does anybody else. This movie had a clear agenda against white men and you are pic related if you don’t think otherwise.
Kill yourself
Jackson Walker
Who's Shandi?
Christian Perry
FO4 also was ruined by SJWism
Luke Cox
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Asher Garcia
>How can you defend this shit? You're literally wrong, one of the reasons this film fails is because the diversity of the protagonists undermines the message they're trying to send and you can't even see that. You're retarded.
Lucas Anderson
>If the decoder got the key to get out of the cell, why he was there at first place? escaping prison is a bigger offense than say, public drunkenness or fighting or something so he wasn't planning on bothering with breaking out until he met people willing to pay him for it. In fallout 4 there's a character like this who will basically chastise you if you violently break him out of prison by being like wtf i was getting out in a day or two
It's a shit movie? I dunno, man, you're literally just wrong. I know how you people work, though.
Evan Long
>"And Reese? Well, let's just say he's more hardheaded than a *Mr Gutsy*!" i literally frowned when i heard that piece of writing for the first time goddamn that game was a disappointment
Jonathan Gray
Okay, so you insist I’m wrong about a point I’m making to which you have no retort
Kill yourself
Jacob Wilson
I can't discuss it because I haven't seen it and I never will. Star Wars is fucking gay now.
It's nothing but a brand name late capitalist propaganda venture meant to sell toys and indoctrinate kids into the resistance.
Star Wars at this point is like the cinematic equivalent of the Refugees Welcome hashtag on Twitter
You should all stop watching it, and stop discussing it.
Jayden Jenkins
goddamn i was so happy when this bitch ate it
Mason Reyes
I have a retort, you've ignored it: evidence of non-white or non-female First Order soldiers is all over the place.
Julian Brown
That’s not my point retard
Wow theres an asian guy and an ugly white chick on the first order
Theres no white men on the Resistance
My point is the discrepancy
Learn to fucking comprehend
Alexander Cooper
plus their leader was some rancid alien fuckpile which is probably more socially progressive than using chinks as day labourers i mean that guy is right about the movie being very clearly warped on race and gender but i thought it was funny that it doesn't even make sense in the context of Star Wars
Nicholas James
I haven't seen anyone mention the over the top animal activist/vegan bullshit.
From the Chewbacca/porg eating shit to all the space race horse crap... so cringy.
And this type of propaganda affects kids far more than many of you might realize. I've experienced it first hand
Andrew Rivera
>Theres no white men on the Resistance Yeah and even if there were the movie would suck Yeah and the movie sucks
Why do you demand representation in a science fiction movie?
Justin Smith
>i was so happy when this bitch ate it via a 9/11 style suicide attack against the evil white patriarchy
David Cox
>Why do you demand representation in a science fiction movie? i don't, i'm another guy and i agree with what you're getting at
Jaxson Hernandez
Sup Forums here, I went in putting aside all my biases.
Movie was a damn mess and I was embarrassed to be there.
Jackson Gomez
yeah but she still exploded into a billion stupid pieces so i was essentially satisfied
(/ˈspiːʃiːˌzJzəm, -siːˌzJz-/) involves the assignment of different values, rights, or special consideration to individuals solely on the basis of their species membership. The term is sometimes used by animal rights advocates, who argue that speciesism is a prejudice similar to racism or sexism, in that the treatment of individuals is predicated on group membership and morally irrelevant physical differences. Their claim is that species membership has no moral significance.
Jacob Wood
and yes, human supremacism is thing.
>The term is not used consistently, but broadly embraces two ideas.[2] It usually refers to "human speciesism" (human supremacism), the exclusion of all nonhuman animals from the rights, freedoms, and protections afforded to humans.[3] It can also refer to the more general idea of assigning value to a being on the basis of species membership alone, so that "human–chimpanzee speciesism" would involve human beings favouring rights for chimpanzees over rights for dogs, because of human–chimpanzee similarities.
