Can they finally admit RT was right about the last 3 DCEU movies...

Can they finally admit RT was right about the last 3 DCEU movies? Can they finally admit Disney doesn't pay critics to trash their shitty movies?

RT is an AGGREGATE, not a review site.

No because the bias against dead serious DC films is still completely intact as almost all the WW reviews praise it's ernestness or optimism & fun which is the opposite of what made Snyder's honest 2 films so emotionally powerful to some of us.

Right.
There were no shills.
There was no conspiracy.
Dour pyhrric capeshit was just a bad idea and kino memes weren't going to change that.

Hahahaha fuck no
The critics are honest and correct when they give good ratings and don't know shit and are probably paid off when they give bad ratings
They've always been like this

Same thing with awards. The red carpet is full of hacks until they get an Oscar for best makeup and suddenly it's the greatest testament of merit

The critics are just major manchildren who love it when they can clap at forced quips and childish plots. BvS mocked clueless journalists so hard it was never getting a positive score.

DC has always been good.

Critics were wrong about the past movies but they are right about wonder woman

RT finally stopped with their fake reviews after new prez got elected. plain and simple

> acadamy awards
now show how much Box office total each studio raked in. The people have spoken

Return of the King didn't deserve most of its wins especially Best Picture. Clearly they decided to fork them over since the previous two lost.

But it wasn't a bad idea on any level whatsoever. It was honest & engaging about the world we live in rather then sugar coating it to the point of violent diabetes.

No, we don't know how this movie is. Actually the smear campaign has been proven because none of the critics reported the "disconvoluted mess" of that (((anonymous letter))) that you guys made no less than 30 threads about, so the bias is more exposed than ever

>It was honest & engaging about the world we live in
I have the news for that.
I have REALITY for reality.
Capes are meant to be an idealized take.
You were wrong. Face that reality honestly.

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If a movie is fun you can forgive a lot of things

Snyder made a CGI owl movie that was fun but he sucked all the fun out of Superman

The owl movie had more color too

Oh yeah Legend of the Guardians was great. Thanks for reminding me of this I'm gonna watch it tonight

You're happy with marvel being the transformers of capeshit

3 movies in? DC made half a billion more

>the bias against dead serious DC films

Explain the near universal praise for the Nolan films, then.

You must be a complete fucking edgelord if you believe the DCEU is a good representation of our world. Normal people don't talk in long soliloquies about the dichotomy of good and evil.

>Capes are meant to be an idealized take.
Originally yes of course but limiting them to being such forever is utterly asinine. The well liked Ultimates 1 & 2 proves people will accept un-idealized takes on universes.
1st 2 were made before Marvel showed a more popular pandering to children way of doing things.
It's acceptable to make Batman dark in general audiences eyes not Superman, but making a dark Superman story does not bloody make the film automatically badly fucking made, that just means it has a narrower target audience.

>shitty edgy grimdark dc films get panned
>fun hopeful optimistic dc film gets praised
>reeee stop being biased against dc
Are snydertards literally this dumb?

I literally hardly haven't seen anything about shills and bribed critics outside of Sup Forums, and Sup Forums fails to provide any proof of shills and bribed critics.

It's just a bunch of autistic anons who have severe persecution complexes.

Nothing about Mos or Bvs was edgy in any fucking way, go read Millar's Nemesis if you want actual valid edgy crap.
It was a good representation of our world in that humanity is inherently flawed, doesn't blindly praised Superman, the media & politicians ponder, question & criticize him, the army doesn't have laser guns & spies don't have flying cars.
The critics are confusing the tone they enjoy or not for film making flaws which are not actual valid flaws.
Snyder set out to make serious stuff, he succeeded in that, that means it was not incompetence. That means that them being dark toned is factually not a flaw. They are criticizing them for not being the film they wanted them to be rather then fairly judging them for what the director intended them to be.

You will notice that the thing that millenia lso have in common is that URGE to be persecuted and the victim.

This is prevalent on tumblr,and super prevalent in Sup Forums too. It's kind of patethic and childish when you think about it, you can't accept people liking something that you don't, someone must be paying or brainwashing them.

>Snyder set out to make serious stuff, he succeeded in that,

Fucking lol. Snyder movies are no better than something like Naruto when it tries to be "serious" or "edgy", it has the same maturity.

Nolan is a good director

Snyder can only direct well made action scenes

Naruto at least has characters with motivations that make sense

The makeup oscar was deserved. Skwad was a shit movie but the makeup effects were good.

Since an oscar counts for so much apparently maybe let the makeup guys write and direct the sequel. I don't think they could a worse job.

Snyder never tried to be edgy at any point whatsoever in the films except Jimmy Olsen's death.
>Snyder can only direct well made action scenes
Then how did he give us the least cringy most subtle & dignified take on Clark & Lois's initial bonding ever?
Why how he give us the fantastic scene of humble wonderment & discovery with Clark meeting Jor for the 1st time?

>Can they finally admit RT was right about the last 3 DCEU movies?

>Opinion
>Right

WW doesnt even look that good from the trailers.

RT critics are being paid off by militant feminists!

If you can admit Wonder Woman is better than any movie in the MCU

Ok bro, you win. RT is god, MoS and BvS were bad and Wonder Woman is better than the entire MCU

Happy now?

You are a manchildren that think anything not aimed at young kids is edgy.

Mos isnt edgy, and neither is BvS

Okay.

The important is that they are finally giving us what we want to see and asked, and learned that Snyder is shit. We are having what we want: good movies.

So here I'm, going to enjoy WW and the rest of the MCU, while laughing at BvS and MOS.

Good, check out Ghostbusters and Alien Covenant as well, they have great scores too

I'm not even basing my view on the score, and more on the reviews that all say "Thank god, this isn't like the previous movies of the DCEU".

Still not going to pay to whatch it, after wasting money with BvS, I decided that the cinematic universe isn't worth of it.

Not really. This is you projecting, in hopes that anybody who desagree with your - quite questionable and unpopular taste - fits on a small box. This is just your mecanism to feel more secure. BvS is like a dumb teenager trying to sound smart, this is why its scenes are no better than something llike Naruto, comics have been doing what that movie tried to do for years, and they were all better than Goyer attempt. Cry me a river.

>symbol of hope isnt hopefull, kills people, and is constantly told not to help people

Sounds pretty edgy to me

no he can't, the Doomsday battle is a mess

No not edgy just practical and humanizing.
A flawed person overcoming and giving hope is inherently more inspiring then someone who is perfect.
Nothing wrong with killing individuals when it will save billions of lives.
He was told not to help people as countless others could die as a result of him being revealed to exist. So it was still 100% to help people.

Oh but you said you were going to enjoy it? Since Rotten Tomatoes is god and they like it, remember?

Go watch Doctor Strange before Gladiator, it has a higher score so it means it has to be better. Not even a scene like this:
>Commodus, just Commodus? Like Adele?
ONE JOB SCOTT

The Patrician opinion is the following:

>MoS and BvS were okay movies; ambitious, but with way too many stupid decisions to be good
>Marvel movies vary from pretty good to bad, and while there are undeniable great stuff in there, it's plagued by recurring problems
>Suicide Squad is shit

I can't talk about Wonder Woman because I haven't seen it, but one thing is certain; while I don't give a shit about what the tomato says, I will enjoy shitposting about it in the next few days because it shatters the view of your Marvelfag who think they can't do no wrong.

Reminder that WW is better rated than any Marvel movie

NO

>because it shatters the view of your Marvelfag who think they can't do no wrong.

If anything, I have seem most Marvel fans here say that Thor 2 and IM2 are not good, while DCEUfags demand everyone to say that their movies are perfect.

>Since Rotten Tomatoes is god and they like it, remember?

When I said that? I'm not even OP, all that I said is that: The important is that they are finally giving us what we want to see and asked, and learned that Snyder is shit.

>Go watch Doctor Strange before Gladiator

I can whatch both fine, I'm not an autist.

MoS and BvS were bad, but not as bad as people make them out to be. And BvS still has the best scene in cape films so far.

Marvelfags don't really argue with anyone. They just talk about their movies, and when the hype of the movies die down, they stop talking about them. I hate company wars as much as the next guy, but it would stupid to deny that DCfags don't latch on petty shit such as movie ratings, considering that they've been shitposting about BvS and bribed critics for over a year now.

I've never seen a DChad defending Suicide Squad. Like never. Which is hilarious because destroys the idea of "they just defend MoS and BvS because contrarians" or "it's all a meme".

>I've never seen a DChad defending Suicide Squad.

I have seem plenty. Which is hilarious because it destroy the idea that MoS and BvSfags arent contrarians.

To begin with, there are the faggots that sperg "the movie was good and award winning, and muh Harley costumes".

Double dubs. Snydercucks BTFO

>I've never seen a DChad defending Suicide Squad. Like never.

What do you have to gain by lying like this?

No.

RT doesn't matter to anyone except Marvelfags, so I post WW's RT score to make them mad.

RT doesn't matter to me personally.

This is fairly apt.

>Then how did he give us the least cringy most subtle & dignified take on Clark & Lois's initial bonding ever?
>Why how he give us the fantastic scene of humble wonderment & discovery with Clark meeting Jor for the 1st time?
Donner did both much better.

>The well liked Ultimates 1 & 2 proves people will accept un-idealized takes on universes.
That's EXACTLY the problem, user. Ultimates was popular almost two decades ago, in a very different culture - when 9/11 had just occurred, when comic book movies were still a burgeoning genre.

The zeitgeist has changed a lot since then.

People don't want deconstructiconist cautionary tales, they want reconstructionist fairy tales.

>BvS
>The movie where Batman brands criminals so they'll be killed in prison
>Not edgy

You need to fucking kill your self right now.

There is also the fact that those are shit movies. Snyder has never done a good one.

Nah. Those movies are truly awful outside of Reeve and the score.
A lot of the acting is terrible (Kidder).
And Lex is annoying and a really bad incarnation of the character. Otis is god awful too.

PLUS, there is mountains of blatant religious parallels in those movies too ("I save sent them you, my only son" SUBTLE), not to mention Supes killing Zod.

I don't think you know what edgy means.
Bats branding criminals is not treated as a kewl thing, it's shown as an aspect of Batman losing his way.

Source?

No he did not, Kidder was utterly insufferable beyond belief she was seconds from fucking drooling over him and seemed drunk when talking to him.

Edge doesn't have to be treated as kewl to be edgy.

Just because something isn't currently popular doesn't mean it is bad or incompetently made & doesn't have a valid audience even if said audience is smaller then that of regular blockbusters.
It's never clear if he knew they were getting killed in prison.
Showing a hero having fallen from grace in disillusioned despair after having accomplished little in 20 years isn't edgy.
Exactly.

You can try with the books of the most influentional writters: Robert McKee

That says that making stories about whinny all powerful guys, that are the cause of their own problems but still do the same shit, are a bad idea.

>Can they finally admit RT was right about the last 3 DCEU movies?
Only when every Marvel fan admits that The Force Awakens is a masterpiece of cinema and it's 8.2/10 rating means that every MCU movie is a piece of shit compared to it since the MCU averages in the 7.6-7.8 range.

>The Force Awakens
Fucking yay, we've gone back to this shit again.

Until it stops BTFOing Rotten Tomatoes. Then we won't mention again

>we won't
Then YOU won't.

>Fucking yay, we've gone back to this shit again.
What's wrong, misogynerd? Upset that two girl movies BTFO your sausage party franchise?

300 and Dawn of Dead are both better than the entire MCU though, Watchmen would be in the high tier in the MCU too

Why have DCucks chosen Ritchie's king Arthur as their hill to die on? That movie blew.

I never had much against it. Actualy, it is mainly this site that spergs against it, it had its problems, mainly Rey, but nowehre as the level of what you cucks from Sup Forums make it out to be.

No, because they literally have nothing to do with what we're discussing.

>inb4 it's also made by Disney and have positive reviews
That shouldn't count, if that was the case, I'd be bringing up a movie made by Warner Bros. with poor reviews.

Like Pan or that King Arthur movie?

Dawn of the Dead is a competent zombie film that threw out nearly everything that made the original great. 300 is just like all of Snyder's fair, an exercise in good looking visuals that don't amount to anything. Watchman is worse than MOS. Look, the MCU leaves a lot to be desired, but Snyder isn't a good director.

>No, because they literally have nothing to do with what we're discussing.
You're asking people to admit that RT is legitimate. Admit that TFA BTFOs everything that Marvel has done. It has a higher % score than anything but Iron Man 1 and it's Average Rating is also untouchable by anything released by the MCU. Admit that it's a far superior move to anything that Marvel has done and makes the MCU look like shit.

Additionally, admit that Ironfist is 2x worse than anything that the DCEU has put out since it's about half the % of both BvS and SS and has a lower Average Rating than both. Then we'll talk.

>You're asking people to admit that RT is legitimate.
No, I'm not. It's usually DC fans who get pissed off at TFA. I don't know what the fuck you're trying to argue.

>No, I'm not. It's usually DC fans who get pissed off at TFA. I don't know what the fuck you're trying to argue.
That Supergirl is miles ahead of anything the MCU has put out and is better than Luke Cage (96%).

Again, what are you trying to argue? I literally only said TFA doesn't have anything to do with this. You could post any other movie with a higher RT rating than the MCU stuff and I wouldn't care.

Are you autistic?

>[CURRENT YEAR]
>Still watching capecomic films
Logan and Lego Batman were good but I'm legitimately surprised people haven't had their fill of this retarded crossover universe shit.

I think that you don't know how the site works.

I will repeat some things that were said on this thread:

Your stupid argument is retarded because it is all build up on the NEED for the oposition to not be albe to admit errors.


If anything, I have seem most Marvel fans here say that Thor 2 and IM2 are not good, while DCEUfags demand everyone to say that their movies are perfect.
Marvelfags don't really argue with anyone. They just talk about their movies, and when the hype of the movies die down, they stop talking about them. I hate company wars as much as the next guy, but it would stupid to deny that DCfags don't latch on petty shit such as movie ratings, considering that they've been shitposting about BvS and bribed critics for over a year now.

If people were too stupid to understand how Rotten Tomatoes worked before, I doubt that the positive reception Wonder Woman is getting is going to break them from their delusion.

>RT is only accurate when it says the thing I like is good and the thing I hate is bad.

I notice how you even said TO SOME OF US and yet the autists just have to fucking ree.

Hey, user. Thanks for using my previous post as an argument, much appreciated.

It's not a mater of accuracy, reviews are just opinions. Rotten Tomatoes just aggregates said opinions.
Believing that there is some huge bias against Warner Brothers because critics don't like a movie is completely idiotic.

Nah, they'll just pretend that this and that are separate cases, as we've seen in the past day.

This is what happens when you have a bunch of idiots that can only think in memes and pictographs. There's not even internal consistency of logic to their arguments.

And again no one defended Suicide Squad so your argument is moot

Go ahead and make a positive thread about the DCEU let's see how long marvelfags start spamming Snyder's daughter suicide memes. The MCU franchise is absolute trash, no one denies that, but the point here is that the fanbase is EVEN worse

I don't see you admitting that Wonder Woman is better than everything Marvel has even done, OP. Whenever you're ready

DC actually has a few more Oscar wins, they just arn't part of the MCU

>And again no one defended Suicide Squad

But this is false, so your argument is moot. "Oscar winning, muh Harley costumes" and such.

By the way, nice companywar faggotory everybody with a brain can see that you are the kind that falseflags

Come on now. There was bias. BvS was not that bad.

>"Oscar winning, muh Harley costumes" and such.
Huh, literally a second later and you were right, user

>There was bias.
Against what?
BvS got shit reviews because critics hated it. That is literally the only reason.

Oscar winning is only mentioned to remind marvelfags how utterly awful their franchise is or when they claim all DCEU movies flopped or underperformed or whatever buzzword they're using. No one has ever said Suicide Squad was a good movie, unlike MoS and BvS

woops, I mean DEU

>Oscar winning is only mentioned to remind marvelfags how utterly awful their franchise is
The Oscar for Best Makeup and Hairstyling is proof of that?

Not being able of winning even that after 15 attempts is. Objectively so