Luke is not a Mary Sue

>Luke is not a Mary Sue

Is that the fight where Vader was trying not to kill Luke?

You mean all of them?

Good job, you managed to capture the exact moment Luke landed is only glancing blow of the entire fight.

A fight in which, by the way, Vader was toying with him, trying to encase him in carbonite and turn him to the dark side.

I need a memory refresher.. what happened exactly after this? Oh yes, Luke gets his hand cut off and needs to be saved by his sister.

8/10 made me reply

Then how'd you feel about Luke beating an old, dying geriatric man in RoTJ?

>cannot save first teacher
>loses hand
>cannot save second teacher
>can save father's soul but not his body
>trilogy ends with him burning his father's remains
>character is mary sue
what did he mean by this?

>Luke is not a Mary Sue

He lost this fight. Vader dominated him the entire time.

Meanwhile in stronk wymins wars... rey disarms and towers over luke after a 20 second scuffle.

Like Pottery right bugman?

Vader wasn't dying and humans live far longer in the SW universe. He wasn't at all weak, but the argument can be made he never really tried to hurt Luke, I'll give you that.

Anyway Never was a Mary Sue.

there are years between the movies

>Goes from shooting womp rats to destroying Death Stars

>years
This really activated my almonds

Watch Rogue 1.

Literally everyone in that situation would have gone from "Shooting some mundane shit" to "destroying the motherfucking Death Star".

And he didn't even get it first try.

>Not using his targeting system
>Relying on the force he learned of 30 minutes ago

Ew. Please don't.

First and foremost have a (You). Just for shits and giggles though lets play the game.

After which Vader immediately slaps his shit. Same with Anakin in episode 2:

Obi-Wan: if you practiced your saber techniques as as much as you do your wit, you would rival Master Yoda as a swordsman.
Anakin: I thought I already did

*cut to the end of the movie*
Anakin fights Dooku solo. The chosen one promptly gets his shit slapped by the Dooku, who is less naturally gifted than him, yet far more experienced in both dueling and the force.

Contrast to Rey
>Overpowers Kylo through the force in the interrogation scene
>Overpowers him again when they mind wrestle for control of Anakin's lightsaber
>easily connects far more deeply to the force during her duel with Kylo Ren
>easily drives him back with near zero effort
>easily defeats him in their duel while significantly injuring him with no negative outcome for herself

She's Mary sue as fuck.

>Fails the first time.
>Is about to get killed if not for Han solo bailing him out at the last minute
>Takes the shot using the force at the instruction/guidence of Obie wan
>Everyone calls it a one in a million shot and are perceivably in awe of the fact he actually managed to make it

Luke barely accomplishes this. He is aided by everyone. Taking the shot by trusting his instincts and using the force to feel is the very first time he uses the force. The whole movie builds up to this moment. You are objectively wrong in your appraisal.

Let's be entirely fair here though. Kylo Ren is the only one she has beaten and he was holding back because he was feeling massively conflicted.

Fuck off, cunt.

Why was he conflicted about killing some random chick though?

lucky shot, even with the force guidance

he's so much of a mary sue that even the VILLAINS love him and want him to join them and rule the galaxy together. wow ESB is trash

Her plot armor might break his autismosaber

Because 1) he had just killed his father and 2) he was in love with her.

I swear, you guys don't fault Goose's character for being autistic and suddenly it's a problem with Kylo? STFU.

>he had just killed his father
more like happy as fuck because he is closer to being a sith.

>loses his arm
>magically gets a new one for FREE
textbook mary sue

>confirmed retard

ANH to TESB: 3 years
TESB TO ROTJ: 1 year

Meanwhile

>TFA to TLJ: days

>>TFA to TLJ: days
no sweetie its literally the next second.

>TFA to TLJ: days
It's worse user, there's literally no time between the movies
TFA ends with Rey handing Luke the lightsaber and TLJ begins with Luke taking the lightsaber

There is at best literal seconds of time between the settings of those movies

She could do Jedi mind trick without training.

Also she knows more about the Falcon than Han did by BYPASSING THE COMPRESSOR. Her Mary Sueness goes further than being Force sensitive. She's also a better ship mechanic than Han and Chewie who spent the last 30 years on the Falcon

At least TFA shows that Rey is competent with a stick. Luke on the other hand was a LITERAL NEET who played with his model Skyhopper in his basement

>literally drops out of THE SKY and his friends scoop him up and dress his wounds
>main villain just wants you to join him
how can anyone defend this gary stu drivel?

>And he didn't even get it first try.
Yes he did, Red Leader was the one that failed the first run. You're right about the first part though

Luke would have been shot down by a random Tie Fighter if it weren't for Wedge

You don't understand what a neet is. He stayed home to help his uncle and aunt on the farm. The first time we meet his he's complaining about not getting to leave home like all his friends

Yep she's great at everything. Totally not a Mary sue

>He stayed home to help his uncle and aunt on the farm
The droids literally do all the work

Rey would decapitate Vader in Nu-Wars. The only thing could spare Vdare from the awesome power of Rey is the scriptwriter

There's still no reason she should have been able to mentally overpower him in either scenario. Even if you accept that he was holding back during the fight, her being able to overpower him through the force was straight up retarded. At BEST she should have been able to prevent him from overpowering her mind completely, but to do that and then do not only that, but then immediately do to him what he was attempting to do her all on pure instinct with ZERO training or actual guidance on anything related to the force is pure mary sue. She just KNOWS how to do that, she just KNOWS how to do a mind trick seconds later, she's just stronger and more capable with the force by being able to not only pull the lightsaber to her, but to pull it from the grasp of another (trained) force user attempting to call the same object to themselves.