Why does the praise for TLJ seem to be so politically motivated? I'm not baiting, I'm genuinely curious...

Why does the praise for TLJ seem to be so politically motivated? I'm not baiting, I'm genuinely curious. Everyone I know hated it, but a lot of left-wing people seem to think it's the best star wars movie.

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Like. Tell me one left winged person you know that liked it.

i don't care about politicl/diversity/swj shits, just can get:
>poe/hux "joke" - marvel-tier cringe
>superLeia - making fun of dead actress, who is an icon of SW
>casino - 30 minutes non-relates stuff from random fantasy (neverending story remake when?)
>aliens reduced to background, while OT and prequels estabilished their coexistence and interactions
how "critics" gave a pass to shits above is a million dollar question

Jews thrive on destroying other cultures

every movie critic

tar Wars isn't just a thing for socially alienated white men/boys anymore. It's grown beyond that little niche, and it also needs to lose the baggage associated with whiteness/maleness to reach a larger audience and have more influence.

Lots of the lessons and teachings embodied by Luke Skywalker are white, masculine and western in character. They've been done to death. The monomyth, Joseph Campbellian structure is dated and stale, and it can't keep running on those fumes forever.

I sympathize with lots of the grumbling white male neckbeards are doing. Star Wars was their thing and they don't want to share their beloved toys. And they're obviously gonna hate The Last Jedi because, in essence, it's about how Luke's legend really was flawed and limited in its scope.

The Jedi philosophy, just like the phallocentric white male western patriarchy, was bogged down in its own dogma. There's something beautiful and touching about the sentiment of "passing the torch" in TLJ. The white western male, long held as the only source of heroism and power in the canon, gracefully steps aside not only for his own good, but for the good of the universe.

In more diverse and progressive hands, there's no telling what this universe, and the force along with it, might become. It's an exciting prospect, to say the least, for those who aren't embittered neckbeards living in their parents' basements.

TLJ is going to be a watershed moment in sci-fi and genre films generally. It's all about letting go, letting your creation grow beyond you. And Star Wars, like civilization itself, has evolved beyond its parochial and patriarchal past.

You've answered your owned question.

It's the exact same reason the female Ghostbusters was loved by the lefty tumblrinas. They sacrificed all plot cohesiveness, the flavor of the universe, and every quality trait of the saga; on the altar of of sjw political correctness.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's very possible to actually craft a GREAT movie with SJW themes (think: most Quentin Tarantino projects), but this is an example of the SJW narrative being so overt it's like a brick through a window and the lack of subtlety ruins the entire product.

Critics rate film almost entirely if it's in their political interests or not. I didn't even dislike TLJ but it's obvious these fucks wouldn't be half as supportive if the admiral wasn't a tumblrina or if the protagonist wasn't a Mary Sue.

BvS and TLJ stand a bit like pure opposites, both loved and hated almost entirely due to the political battle they are inserted in.

>movie critics are left wing
Something tells me you don't know what leftist actually means

You know them?

>left hates rich people
>rich people want to continue selling their shitty products to them

Guess what happened next?

doesnt want to admit how angry he is that let they some nobody director ruin his and the franchises legacy

Because the whole movie is about burying men, and lefties love that shit

There is no legit praise for this movie. It's always about:

>it's diverse so it's good
>womyn rocks so it's good
>subverting expectations so it's good
>killed off the past so it's good

Take a closer look at the movie and it will reveal it's ugly, shallow, plotholes ridden story.

Because thanks to the internet and social media we can't have discussions and preferences without it being rooted in politics. Video game discussions are also starting to become political like. When I go to a community for a game and try to argue the issues it has I get political like replies back and it's infuriating. I also blame Redit for this.

How can you be so mad that you didn't like a kids film? Serious question? Is there so little going on in your lives that you are still mad about a movie for children and the obese?

Because it completely devastated a legendary white heterosexual cis straight binary male masculine power fantasy. That's the best victory you can give to marxists.

except for the part where all the women died on-screen

>making fun of dead actress

It's a terrible scene but how is it making fun of Carrie?

>movie critics wouldnt LOVE to be paid for sitting around reviewing movies instead of getting a real job
I'm pretty sure they are at the very least liberals
To each according to his need, right comrade?

The funny thing is, BvS is a genuinely liberal movie. TLJ is more or less Stalinist.

Journalists and the like have a vested interest in the narratives involved with the contemporary Star Wars, i.e. diversity, feminism, etc.

When you attack the new movie -- which is heavy-handed with its political leanings -- you're, essentially, attacking them and they dislike that.

Because they're idiots who tie their identities up too much in movies.

the real reason is because a lot of the hate for it is politically motivated, so liberals think "oh if righties hate it when I must like it heh that'll show em"

Holdo came off as a martyr even though she's a retard.

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Not only the praise, also the derision. Fucked if I know, Star Wars always had political elements, sometimes more, sometimes less overtly. I liked the new movie quite a bit but it didn't appeal to me on a political level. It's not the way I watch movies.

>That pic
>"dad was right all along about sand"

Why didnt she kamikaze immediately though? Her plan was to get blown up anyway before it was shown that Poe was right all along.

Leia didn't even die in the movie

what he said

This is an anecdote. But the one person I know if that loved The Last Jedi is a fat numale who is going on a date this week with a tranny. He says the negative reaction to the movie is due to the alt right.

>Why does the praise for TLJ seem to be so politically motivated?
That's because it is politically motivated. It's got a lot of problems as a film, and it is a pretty big let-down. The only praise it's getting is from ideologues who don't give two shits about SW or kino in general and only want to praise it because it's got a black man, a fat Asian, a purple-haired strong womyn, and all of the straight white men are evil Nazis.

he's right

Actually he's left.

The people I know irl who hated the movies are either apolitical or left leaning. So its not racist trolls on twitter who are behind it.

>i don't care about politicl/diversity/swj shits
you are stupider than 13 year old tumbrlinars who are capable of recognizing and discussing the politics of a movie

>Why does the praise for TLJ seem to be so politically motivated?
What has happened the past 3 years that wasn’t politically motivated? Seriously

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
TLJ is neither the worst thing that happened to Star Wars, nor is it the cinematic revolution of our generation.

>watching Star Wars for politics

The same could be said for the hate it gets.

By claiming that only the Sith deal in absolutes you're too dealing in absolutes.

It seems politically motivated because it is politically motivated. Star Wars is seen as the pinnacle of white male nerd shit and now its main characters are a chick and a black dude, so people still butthurt about Hillary losing and who need to cling onto every 'win' they can get see this as a symbolic victory for diversity and feminism. Same shit happened with Ghostbusters.

>movies don't have politics
again, you are either stupid or willfully ignorant

I have a leftie friend that blocked me on twitter and I’m pretty damn sure it’s because of this movie. All I did was tweet that I didn’t not like the way the movie handled Luke and that Solo should be cancelled. He liked the movie but I never replied or attacked him personally for liking it. For some reason you can hate on the prequels but not on the sequels.

I'm just loving this trend of writers and directors putting characterization and decent writing on the back burner in exchange for tossing audiences hamhanded leftist themes for two and half hours, being incredibly vocal on social media and in interviews regarding their political intentions in producing this dreck, and then accusing people who didn't like it of "dragging politics into it"

Sith aren't real.

>turning the franchise into a SJW political driven mess with forced feminism and diversity quotas

Normally with any other film franchise, I wouldn't really mind, but damn them for shoving it in Star Wars.

>Let's move beyond the patriarchal past where good guys beat bad guys through the bonds of friendship, teamwork, and optimism.
>Let's replace it with the fresh new idea that good guys have to beat bad guys through the power of love, teamwork, optimism, and women, but also claim everything is different and anyone who points that out is sexist, racist, and a loser.

>Guys, why are we making less money?

>Define "and"

I thought it was 50/50.

Luke/ Rey half of the movie was actually really great, I loved all of it.

Black/Chinese half of the movie really reminded me of the 123 trilogy. It was too CGI, didn't make sense and I wasn't interested.

Although pic related was my absolute favourite character

It didn't seem, to me, any more politically motivated than any other star wars movie though

The autism is strong with this one.

The saddest thing is that most white male nerds, when confronted directly with the theft of their culture, are too soy to say "Fuck off, it's mine."

Name ONE feminist who DIDN'T like it.

cool pasta

>why is all the praise so politically motivated

The lack of self awareness on this site is mind blowing. I could hide bodies inside all of your compartmentalized skulls.

tastes good

Everyone here has the cause-and-effect reversed. They didn't make a shitty movie to promote a political agenda--they're using a political agenda as cover for their shitty movie.

You always know a good point has been made when the only response is memeing.

It doesn't tho?
Seems entirely mousebux motivated to me.

keep it comin pal

It's a piece of social engineering for socially engineered drones

Remember, the corporate end game is where we have no free thought, we always love their products.

All you guys reeeeeing about politics and disney when you are on Sup Forums. The very place where a coordinated campaign to damage viewer scores on critic websites was organized for political purposes.

Marxist subversion tactic, deny your faults and accuse your opponents of what you're guilty of

Fuck americans and their diversity, that's why I'm a spic nazi's fucktoy

Is that what the KGB is doing here? Huh, makes sense.

Why does the hate seen so anti-progressive? Could it possibly be that the best way to get clicks, views, and (you)s is to be as controversial and divisive as possible? I'm thinking yeah.

Yeah.

But don't get mad. Get even.

Me. I'm a feminist, and I didn't like it.
Admiral Holdo felt like what a corperate research unit would boil feminism down to after 'extensive market research'
>has purple hair
>tells off some random man for something they've heard mentioned online called 'mansplaining'

The way she runs the ship (with so little regard for her crew that they mutiny) would be considered the epitomy of toxic masculinity, were she a man.

A more nuianced work would probably draw attention to this, and explain that swapping the leader's gender but having them still behave in exactly the same way you consider "problematic" for men to, isn't feminist in any meaningful way.

marketing, virtue signalling, etc. Just like ghostbusters for example. Since cucks and whale can't create, they have to tweak and shit on other people creations.

I consider myself a feminist (but I am very critical of the 3rd wave).
The movie seems written by a parody of a feminist made by Sup Forums.

Left winger here. Hated the movie. Don't know anyone that likes it. Don't mistake paid reviewers for sincerity of any kind.

Right winger here. I loved the movie. I don't know anyone who didn't like it. And I am completely sincere.

>Me. I'm a feminist,

I wonder why...

Thank you for your input Mr. President.

Mexican president here, pls send cerveza

>mansplaining
>toxic masculinity
>problematic

>getting this triggered by some words
>not being smart enough to understand the context in which they are used
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When you have to accept that this is not trolling. That people like this exist.

People hated the prequels for being soulless cash-ins (hating the prequels for being soulless cash-ins was fairly common, in fact), and there was no political angle there, yet you find it impossible to believe people dislike the new ones for that same reason? And you have the gall to accuse others of lacking self-awareness, fuck off.

>implying that the criticism wasn't politically motivated too

> there was no political angle there, yet you find it impossible to believe people dislike the new ones for that same reason?
Dumb fuck. Half the posts in this thread are stuffed with alt-right politics
>"feminism ruins muh movies"

>my SJW as fuck sister hated the movie even more than I did
Bahahahahaha

So it's official that Rey is a Mary Sue now?
There is no-one here that still denies this obvious fact anymore?

Well I really don't see how any hetrosexual white man with an ounce of self respect could actually *enjoy* watching The Last White Male.

>Half the posts in this thread are stuffed with alt-right politics
They're actually not. You'd know that if you took the time to read them. The majority of posts in this thread are answering OP's question as to why the support for the film seems politically motivated and most of them don't even mention anything to do with the film's quality, you're just a petty and reactionary cunt who takes any kind of even-slightly negative connotation as a direct attack on your vagina. Fuck off back to whichever commie shithole you crawled out of.

I enjoyed the last kino.

I didn't make any claims about what is impossible to believe. I'm sure people dislike or like the movies for all sorts of reasons.

Not one person I quoted said anything about soulless cash-ins, so don't know where you got that either.

Are you having a stroke?

What I love about this post is there's a large chance you're a dude (or a dude pretending to be a chick) so everything you've just said, no matter how logically sound, if one of the female writers were to see it, it would just be written off as mansplaining. What a time to be alive.

This is not me, by the way.

Holy fuck, the projecting.

You acted as if people pointing out the political agenda behind the praise this film is receiving is total hypocrisy because you believe there's a political agenda behind the criticism it's receiving, I pointed out the most common reason for the criticism (soulless cash-in) which, you'll find, has nothing to do with politics. This is not a difficult point to comprehend, you retard.

It's not all politically motivated, there's also the super fans. There's the occasional guy getting super mad at RLM because they poke fun at some of the Star Wars movies, including TLJ, and claim their "corrupting the minds of a generation of moviegoers" and shit like that.

This ^^

"I am sure we will have a woman direct a star wars movie" - kathleen kennedy, before hiring 4 white dudes to direct 3 star wars movies

Yeah, this is why I said I consider myself a feminist and I think the movie is shit.
Spot on.

My mom is a huge liberal and hated this Star Wars. She actually said she wont see IX in theaters she was so upset with how bad they fucked up TLJ. I think that true Star Wars fans, even if they’re liberal, don’t like the movie over the SJW pandering. At this rate the franchise will be full of SJW and nothing else, then that’s when Star Wars will truly die

Disney is a powerful corporation with the best marketing department in the business.

or maybe both movies were poorly made

I said nothing about what the most common reason for criticism was or made any kind of claim to know what most people think.

That's you.

The specific people who I quoted obviously do view this movie through a political lens, and only gave political reasons for why they disliked the movie.

And it's disingenuous to pretend there aren't lots of people like that here.

You should calm down.

Ironically this is the only post that offers something resembling a response to it. The rest of the posts do the Sup Forums equivalent of dismissing it as mansplaining.