>Beware the Batman gets announced
>Everyone hates it due to the style, CG, and Professor Pyg as the main villain
>CN of course promotes the ever loving shit out it
>Show premieres
>Recieves good reviews and a fanbase starts growing
>"What? An actual decent action show on our channel?!"
>Yanks it quickly
This still bothers me to this day.
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People should've just given it a chance.
There was clearly some drama going on between CN and DC execs. DC Nation was just a oddly handled block. CN treated it with such contempt did everything they could to kill any show that wasn't TTG.
Kinda pissed it was canned. Needed more love.
>and Professor Pyg as the main villain
What ?
Pyg is the best thing to have come out of modern Batman.
Didn't people like him ?
Or were they just upset because it wasn't Joker ?
>CN of course promotes the ever loving shit out it
No they didn't, far from it. The ads didn't show up until mere days before it premiered, and even then the (15 second) ad played maybe once every two hours. Hell, that ad was essentially an image ad, the show didn't get a proper promo until several weeks into its run, and said promo only played within the hour before the show aired.
CN tried to bury this show from day one.
>and Professor Pyg as the main villain
But that's not true. He and Toad were recurring villains, but the Big Bads were Ra's al Ghul and Deathstroke.
>CN of course promotes the ever loving shit out it
Are you from an alternate Earth, user?
And Anarky.
Speaking of which, he's grown on me. Sure, he's nowhere near as interesting as the comics counterpart but it was nice to watch him growing from a punk who's in over his head to a genuine mastermind.
It pisses me off that we'll probably never know what really went down. It likely boiled down to CN knowing they didn't need to spend too much money to make money. Didn't want toy tie ins, never re-aired episodes throughout the week. They tried their best to make GLTAS and Young Justice look like failures that needed to be done away with, but they were still the most talked about shows on the network when they were airing.
They are STILL doing it with Justice League Action. That show has yet to air its whole first season.
Should've used more actual Batman villains, and shouldn't have made Alfred an grizzled marine.
>Should've used more actual Batman villains
The only non-Batman villains in it where Tobias Whale, Deathstroke, and Mykros.
>CN of course promotes the ever loving shit out it
Print ads aren't good enough.
Did you know that despite getting full-page ads in comics and magazines, people still believe that Beware the Batman had no ads whatsoever? That's because no one reads that shit.
A similar phenomenon occurs with wrestling shows. Dragon's Dogma was advertised for 3 weeks straight on the USA Network, but all DD fans ever say is "Capcom sent this game out to die".
It's not so much that he's a mastermind, but he gets over trying to one-up Batman and just decides to have fun from the sidelines.
Him being a smug motherfucker around Batman, Katana, and Dent was genuine fun.
Fuck. Beware was so good, particularly the second half. People just didn't give it a chance.
I think he means the more established main stream villains. Kids want to see the Joker and Bane.
There was a interview with the creative team that specifically said they wanted to dive deeper into Batmans rogues gallery because they thought it would lead to a more interesting story.
Problem is, it doesn't. I love Pyg and Anarky but a 12 year old wouldn't understand a man who mutilates people because he wants them to be perfect or a man who the definition of nihilist.
>Recieves good reviews and a fanbase starts growing
Citation required
I didnt like how it looked.
But really I never saw it on TV, so....
it didnt much of a diference
The thing is those ads were only on comics, and those have a very small userbase compared to television or even online ads, which the show had little to none.
It does show that at least DC was making an effort to promote it, while CN dragged its feet.
But wasn't Pyg totally different than his comic version. Like he was some eco-terrorist or something.
Anyway, we all know what the real loss was:
Pretty much. Though it also was more difficult to see the second half due to CN getting rid of it and Toonami airing it so late, only for that getting canned as well.
Pyg and Toad were so-called eco-terrorists, but their crimes seem more hedonistic, if anything. Their third scheme had Pyg basically doing a PG-rated version of his comic book gimmick, but with brainwashed animal-human hybrids.
Magpie was the sexiest thing I've ever seen in a kid's cartoon.
At least her design in this is going over other media.
I don't care if she's stupid. Magpie made my dick diamonds.
Making Babs Oracle right from the start was a good move. It keeps her involved while still doing something new. Plus it potentially leaves the Batgirl cowl open for someone like Cass or Steph.
I really hope they were planning on turning him into Joker at some point. Not because I wanted to see Joker that badly, but because it would have been an amazing concept to show a petty, egoistical criminal slowly grow into Batman's most iconic foe.
Plus, I love the idea that the Joker was always a mastermind-type obsessed with Batman. The chemicals didn't do shit other than make him snap.
That wouldn't surprise me.
He was starting to get the laugh down and everything.
It was a watered down Professor Pyg. Basically the character in name only.
>Harvey Dent moves to close Arkum
>Arkum
Weirdest part is they've spelled it right before.
Pyg is unknown to normies and his name sounds dumb.
someone post gamer katana
I know the design gets gaga-hate but anyone actually prefer they used her comics design?
For fucks sake Time Warner needs to step in and fix them
Beware was very well received with critcs and fans. Just look at this thread. We wanted more
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Katana a qt
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besides her, any other character that they took the "alternate universe" thing to heart?
aside from magpie (d'oh!)
Two-Face, big time, with Harvey starting out as an opportunistic asshole who antagonized Batman to fuel his political career. He became more obsessed over time and even teamed up with villains until getting disfigured. He went nuts after that.
Barbara starts out as Oracle instead of Batgirl.
Ra's and Deathstroke both have major connections to Alfred, as a former enemy and a failed apprentice, respectively.
Pyg and Toad are pretty different. Cypher is a mute cyborg that uses tentacles to mind control instead of an ordinary man who uses his voice.
harvey gradually going full two-face was awesome.
Anarky had a neat theme.
I'm sad La La Land cancelled all of their non-DCAU releases. At least YJ and GL:TAS got theirs.
>Recieves good reviews and a fanbase starts growing
This is fake news.
Yes all 12 of you were certainly worth keeping the show around for.
I wasn't too big of fan of the style at first but it wasn't a bad show given that they wanted to use more overlooked villains and change a few things up compared to other Batman shows.
I figure they would want to keep a Batman show around with Batman being their bread and butter character.
Whatever was happening between Cartoon Network and WB was probably too deep to even spare a Batman franchise.
I still wonder why they didn't have a proper toyline for the show. Even Justice League Action got some figures and an app.
Weirdly, I actually felt like this Harvey was actually more sympathetic than most depictions. Like, yeah he was an asshole, but he was also a very sad, lonely man. Something was broken deep down inside of him. Like all the times he's hanging out with Bruce, and Bruce is clearly getting along way more with his bodyguard and barely paying attention to him, but he's just that excited to actually have a friend that he doesn't care.
In the episode where Bruce gets assassinated by Batman, and Harvey introduces him, he introduces Bruce Wayne as "my very best friend in the world" and I honestly believe that, he considers Bruce his closest friend, and Bruce clearly doesn't even like the guy.
I suppose he's a little bit pathetic when it comes to socializing.
I do wonder if his overblown hatred of Batman, particularly at the start, was real or just for show. It could be him trying to downplay his obsession to Bruce and Dane, or it could also be him genuinely being apathetic about Batman before he messed up too much of his plans.
No.
It was shit and I'm glad it got canned.
It was nearly as awful as The Batman.
ITT fags defending a dog shit show
People think that because BTAS was on for so long, the new Batman toons need to have some new gimmick.
In reality, they just need good stories.
It's what happens when there's Batman oversaturation. If someone tried to just make another "definitive" Batman show, it wouldn't grab a lot of people's attention and wouldn't stand out.
At least Batman doesn't have a bad cartoon record overall. Even the lesser shows are still better than a lot of other stuff out there.
I think a Batman show done in the style of YJ with the full Bat family could be really, really good.
Red Hood has never been a recurring character in a cartoon. Neither has Red Robin/Black Bat
As long as they didnt get mired down with making all the Robins hate each other, it could be good.
Looking like it'll be it's ONLY season, just like Beware and Green Lantern.
God I hope going digital pans out for DC.
CN is a shithole.
As much as that would've excited me four years ago, the overuse of Bourassa's art style in the animated movies soured me on it.
I'd still like a full Bat-family show, though. We almost got one, too.
Two Face was fantastic. It was very different it had such a good buildup and he was more threatening than he's been in ages.
As good as Beware ended up being, I'd sacrifice it in a heartbeat for the Batfam show we also got instead.
Dick should wear the mouth covering all the time. Looks badass - outlaw-esque
Cass looks absolutely terrifying, also.
I was pretty partial to the Batman/Superman show they were thinking of doing.
“>Then we came up with the lighter version of the show, which was Batman – specifically Bruce Wayne – and Clark Kent at the beginning of their careers. The show revolved around Clark as a cub reporter coming to Gotham City, where he meets Bruce. They’re also just becoming Batman and Superman. Clark and Bruce become friends, but Batman and Superman hate each other. Then they realise who each other is, and get on the right side and end up living in the same building.
>“It was, tonally, a very different approach,” he adds. “If Beware The Batman is centred in terms of tone, this was much lighter. It explored two guys in their early 20s as they were becoming heroes. That was the gist of the story. But there was just a feeling that although they really liked it, the timing for a Batman/Superman team-up show just didn’t feel right. Not yet. I can tell you that variations of that idea are always on the boards or something to possibly do, but it hasn’t happened yet.
I like all of it except
>Living in the same building
No. Part of Reporter Clark's appeal is that he could never afford even a single day of Bruce's lifestyle.
Unless it's Bruce who decides to downgrade for some reason.
>Receives good reviews
>reviews cant be faked to shill people
user, CN could barely air a single commercial. Why would they bother to write "shill" reviews?
Man I just really want JLA to succeed. I really enjoy it. Fuck CN.
I feel like it started as just a gimmick to get votes, but as his efforts were increasingly fruitless, and Batman increasingly fucked him over, the hatred got more and more personal, and genuine. It started as exploiting a hotbutton issue to get press coverage and votes, and turned into an obsessive personal vendetta.
Bump
Oh shit, I never got to watch it
>decent
Please. The only thing people liked about the show was Magpie.
Speaking of that, Shane Glines has done design work for both Beware and that show.
Two-Face resembles Beware's Dent a lot, but with B:TAS's color palette.
The Batman was great