Who would win?

Who would win?

Not the fat faggot.

Finn would punch the shit out of Steven, while Steven would just cry probably

They wouldn't fight to the death, but they may train together. Finn would probably get the biggest workout trying to overcome Steven's nearly impenetrable defensive powers and his super strength. Maybe 1/5 spars Finn would get luck and lay a fake killing blow.

Fern

The fat faggot stomps.

What does Finn have?
Last I checked all he has is a robotic arm and a regular cutlass.
Steven's a fat wuss but he has gem physiology (durability and shapeshifting) and can forge a shield
I don't think Finn's current sword could shatter Steven's gem and Finn probably wouldn't even notice it as Steven's weak point

the guy who never got his girlfriend stolen by a pastry

Steven is strong even by gem standards, the offcolors all went "woah" when he pushed that giant rock.

Steven lacks the capacity to fight
he wasn't able to kill a bug
he only defended himself against bismuth
he would never attack anyone not even when they are attacking him
Finn, while having no super human power whatsoever, has defeated the Lich a couple of times, and probably done some other stuff

Finn "The Cuck" Mertens gets destroyed

Death Battle rules removes killing restraint but keeps everything else (stupidity, foolishness, intelligence, arrogance, etc)

>not a murdering psychopath
>haha, what a wuss

The first time he sees the gem he would immediately realize it's the weak point, the dude fights magical creatures for a living, he might not beat Steven's strength but he would try to rip the gem out first chance he gets.

>doing anything but crying and making condescending moral appeals to your enemies makes you the same as a murdering psychopath
This why One of the worst parts about Steven Universe is Steven Universe

But could he?
Bismuth had to make a stupidly impractical weapon designed to shatter gems and Finn's current sword is perhaps his weakest.
Has his robotic arm display any notable force?

Steven beat Jasper, bubbled the Cluster, beat Bismuth, saved Greg, etc. He does do shit.

Finn

Because he is a pure human, and not tainted by xenos corruption.

You have no reason whatsoever to believe that such a thing is possible.
In fact, the existence of the Breaking Point implies that interfering with a gem before it is poofed is nearly impossible.

But Steven has no offemsive power whatsoever, so Finn just pounds on Steven's shields/bubbles while Steven tries to befriend him. Eventually, Finn gives up on fighting and they bond over their love of bacon and video games and other bro stuff. Then some gay stuff. Not a lot, just a little gay stuff. Some ball fondling, but no eye contact, that sort of thing.

>people unironically think Steven would win
I love both shows, but Finn is much more skilled in combat. Steven is strong as hell, sure, but Finn has a lot more experience and skill in death battles.

Steven can't keep himself bubbled forever, and even if Steven had Rose's sword, Finn would out duel him.

Steven and Finn are best boys though.

...

Steven cut through solid stone with a shield throw so he obviously has offensive capability

Yeah
Finn would kick his ass until steven bubbles
After that the only way to beat steven is to maybe insult him until he has mental breakdown

Finn with all of his arsenal (not sure if counting Jake, since in some games he uses him as a weapon/assist) vs a Steven that's willing to kill (plus maybe Connie to make Stevonnie).
People might complain about Steven, but he's still a pretty decent powerhouse with an investment in Strength and he is pretty well trained at the point where we are, even if he doesn't get to show it off much. As skilled as Finn is, I have doubt that he could take him.

Refusing to follow such rules is one of Finn and Steven's primary attributes.

What would you say to break his bubble?

Considering how characters are forced to kill in this scenario, wouldn't it be Finn trying to break Steven's gem unsuccessfully with his normal rapier until Steven closes his eyes and just punches Finn really hard?

Steven.
Gem is too OP.

So has plenty of characters in Death Battle
Batman wouldn't kill, Leonardo wouldn't decapitate Mikey, Superman wouldn't blow up the Earth in his clash with Goku (it was supposed to come out on the Mayan Apocalypse but got delayed), etc

>*with an investment in Defense
At the least it wouldn't be easy for either side.
Were this to be one of the "deathbattle videos" how many people actually go against the rules besides people who break the 4th wall?

So Steven has the better
>weapon
>physiology (durability, strength, shapeshifting, and has a single weakspot)
While Finn has the superior
>experience
>intelligence (in battle)

>he hates win-win protags
Shit tastes, desu.

Wouldn't Steven just bubble Finn and leave him there? Or couldn't he just bubble himself and then wait it out?

The power of friendship

>Steven's more comfortable in his bubble
>Finn can't break the bubble right now
>Someone has to starve to death first for the match to end

I mean that Steven and Finn have both been placed in situations exactly like this (mostly Finn, for example, the episode where he and Jake go into the coliseum run by the Murder King) and refused to fight.

How excit...

so it would be steven because he's a fat fuck unless it's hotter in the bubble than outside so he just dehydrates.

That's because that was them with that part of their head that refuses to kill
Death Battle removes that and focuses on what if (key words are what if) they didn't have that restraint to begin with
The fat one would probably drop dead first

Does Steven need to eat?
He believes he does, of course, but gems can eat, and I doubt Greg was ever like "Hey, let's try an experiment to see if my kid can starve to death."

>implying the fat one would starve to death first
but that's not how it works

He'd be driven insane at the very least because he believes he needs to eat.
Finn would probably also go aggressive (despite not being able to burst the bubble at all) and call him out for being a crying coward while making stupid insults at him and saying that the next stab would burst the the bubble because he would actually believe that was the case.
Steven remains in his bubble because he would overestimate how much of a threat Finn actually is

Finn has his faggy hero code so he wouldn't fight Steven
Steven's just a fag so he wouldn't fight Finn

Result: they go out for donuts together

This one goes to Steven, easy, even moreso if he gets his mother's sword.
Steven's bubble is soundproof

>Steven wins because he's fatter and has a durable protective bubble Finn can't break
Poetry

also he can spiky hamster ball of death with it

Depends on a lot of things.

Finn is pretty weak in his own universe. Any time the thread level goes above Ice King, he struggles. Both times he beat the Lich, it was due to "magic Lich Kyrptonite" situations. His sword fighting is sloppy and basically just flailing unless he has the grass sword.

Any time an "old world" threat (Lich, Vampires, Goo Zombies, modified humans etc.) shows up, Finn gets stomped. He's able to be a big hero in the world of Ooo though, where things have largely died down in thread level (I mean, the Candy Kingdom is the largest kingdom, and their population literally explodes when frightened)

Could Fern beat Steven?
Remember, all the feats the Grass Sword has applies to him and he has Finn's memories as well
He also has shapeshifting

*threat level, not thread level

Steven on the other hand, is shown to be (at the very least) super human in strength. He started out with normal human strength, but he's gone to the point where he can hurl boulders and punch Greg several meters into a tree. He'd also be pretty mobile with his ability to float.

Another thing to add, if Ice King was serious he'd probably stomp Finn as well.
He only loses because he's a senile idiot who doesn't realize his potential

Steven
For the all the shit he gets he has some pretty OP strength and durability. Not to mention he can heal himself and fly

Yeah true.

Finn really only has his determination and "blood knight" status going for him. He'll keep going in a fight, but he's definitely low tier.

A goddamn deer took him out for weeks/months.

>and his super strength.
Finn ain't no slouch when it comes to physical capabilities either

Remember that entire episode where Finn goes solo into a dungeon?
He pretty much got destroyed.
Meanwhile, Jake was clueless and had no direction
They're pairs for a good damn reason

Finn vs. Steven? Steven smashes him.
Finn and Jake vs. Stevonnie? Jake obliterates them.

>he's too fat for Finn's shirt

Finn with Grass Sword probably wins as it would probably get through bubble shield

without grass sword Steven probably wins

finn every time he has much greater feats of strength than steven but everyone in this thread is going to ignore that for when he is depicted at his weakest for narrative reasons

>What does Finn have?
>capable of lifting heavy things, running long distances without too much trouble, and can jump rather good.
>years of experience fighting other beings
>training in using swords
>is capable of hand-to-hand combat
>high pain resistance
>immunity to electricity
>great balance
>can create fire by rubbing his hands together
>can fight against psychic abilities and can manipulate his own thoughts

Because he's weak right now.
He doesn't have the Finn Sword, Demon Blood Sword, or Grass Sword.
He has the "Small Sword" right
He's pretty much Season 1 levels of destructibility only with more maturity and experience on his side.
Other than that, he has no ways of shattering or poofing Steven's gem or getting passed the bubble.
Give me some Finn feats of him breaking stuff without his strongest swords.

There's like a 90% chance that Jake gets distracted, and he's proven that he can feel pain (and is a bitch about it).

Most of the recent "Jake get's serious" events still end with Jake getting one shot

What about Jake suit?

And yet none of that could break through Steven's durability and bubble

finn. Steven's powers have the consistenty of my love life, sparatic and stupid.

peridot beat jasper

Hopefully they'd double kill each other so both of their shitty cartoons can end.

Adventure Time's ending next year actually

assuming baseline abilities only, no one-shot super abilities
and assuming a straight fight until one of them is incapacitated

then my money is on steven, finn has no standard ability capable of penetrating his bubble or his shield

finn is also lacking in super strength, durability, and sheer versatility of power

one of the categories where finn would have the upper hand is in martial prowess, but even steven has since started training so the gap wont be as wide

finn might get the upper hand if he can leverage his superior fighting skill to take advantage of stevens reluctance to fight, but this would be lessened by finns chivalry, and a fight of attrition would definitely favor steven as he will not get tired, can take far more punishment, and has both an indestructible shield and bubble

Would anyone else watch this?
Blossom destroys Krupp of course but it'd be fun

Jake suit is honestly Finn's best bet. However, if you wanted to be "realistic" or whatever, it's also a pretty shit strategy against Steven.

Jake Suit is still very vulnerable to injury (he even got hurt smashing a table) and Finn can't feel the pain, so he'd keep wailing on Steven's shield/bubble and keep hurting Jake.

You'd need some sort of Grass Sword, Jake Suit, Finn -rage combo to beat Steven, and against Stevonnie/lion it would probably still lose.

What about bodyjacking?

Yeah, if Steven could get Jake to do that he'd win easily.

>jake-shitting-in-finns-mouth.png

I have no idea about Captain Underpant's capabilities, but most characters would be hard pressed to match up to tiny, adorable versions of Superman.

Finns always able to stab through crystals and stuff attached to monsters, or even through crystal monsters. So it's safe to assume he can break through quartz, and you can't really say they're stronger in the SU universe because they're not consistent about it

Was it with the grass sword or demon sword ?
Cause he doesn't have either of them now
He has a small, thin rapier now

Yeah that's true, but we'd still be assuming that he can't break through with that sword, crystals usually split like butter in Adventure Time. And its also assuming he wouldn't just attack the rest of steven

I don't think you understand what Stevonnie is

I feel like people are giving Steven too much credit. His only weapons are his shield and his bubble, and both are pretty unreliable. His bubble is hard to control, and at best causes a stalemate. Meanwhile, his shield's only offensive capabilities are as a projectile (which Finn is adept at dodging), and it still requires skill to use in close combat. Steven is TERRIBLE at hand-to-hand combat. Some notable examples:

-Steven vs Bismuth: Steven floats around the whole time and only wins through sheer luck.
-Steven vs Forced-Fusions: Steven literally does nothing besides blocking the fusions (often unsuccessfully) while Connie easily defeats the gems. Keep in mind that this shows how weak the fusions are (a 12 year old girl with minimal training beat them handily) yet Steven struggled.
-Steven vs Eyeball: In perhaps Steven's worst showing, Steven was almost killed by a Ruby (which are the weakest soldier gems by far) and would have been killed had it not been for his bubble.

Meanwhile, even though Finn may not be the best fighter out there, he is still FAR more skilled. As long as Finn isn't totally cucked in this fight, he should win.

But can he shatter Steven's gem right now?

I dunno if I'd say Connie is unskilled.

Pearl seems pretty set on running her through the ringer. She's already got enough muscle memory/fight sense where she flipped a kid on instinct

Irrelevant when Finn can harm his organic body easily.

I'm not saying she's unskilled, I'm saying that she's nowhere near the Gems or Finn. Yet she always outclasses Steven.

Connie has gotten a LOT more combat training from Pearl than Steven has.
She's been trained by a master of multiple forms of bladed combat, while Steven presumably hasn't had anywhere near as extensive training with his shield.
It also helps to think of Steven as the party White Mage, with more combat capability than your standard WHM.

Doesn't Steven need to have his gem shattered to die?

We also can't assume she's had "minimal" training. It's all shown in song, but she's gone through a multitude of intense and serious training sessions by one of the bests, and Connie's a good learner.

finn fuck off fattyfags

>Implying a skinny human could beat his way through the lard that is Steven

replace that with tank and you'd be correct.
Finn has skill, sure, but I doubt he'd be able to punch through that much defense, even at his best.

Hmmm...
>Finn
>Grew up in a post-apocalypse as the only pure human (on land at least) with a few friendly people/beings caring for him
>Fought with monsters bigger and stronger than him all his life
>Aggressive as fuck and only restrains himself in battle if fighting someone he cares about (and even then)
vs.
>Steven
>Grew up in a comfy house on a beach with 3 (4 if you count his dad) role models near a small town full of friendly people
>Spent most of his life watching his role models fight monsters and not really fighting anything himself until recently (and even then it's mostly Connie who does the fighting)
>Pacifistic as fuck, even in situations where it'd be infinitely easier to use force rather than hopping around or hiding in his bubble
Finn has dealt with magic stuff similar to Steven's magic before, but Steven never really dealt with another human like Finn trying to kill him with a sword and unbridled stamina. The closest he's gotten is Holo-Pearl (which he spent the majority of the fight running away from), maybe Eyeball Ruby, and that was easily taken care of by Steven dropping the bubble for a second and letting the vacuum of space do the rest, and Bismuth (which is probably Steven's best fight), he spent most of it hopping around avoiding her, STILL wanting to settle things passively until he was cornered into using his mom's sword.

It would end in either a stalemate (due to Steven eventually just sitting in his bubble, unharmed, once he realizes Finn is actually pretty dangerous) or Finn would completely outplay Steven and effortlessly kill him.

We do.

No, but if Steven dies then Rose Quartz comes out of the gem and she'll be pissed and could possibly revive Steven. SHE won't die unless you stick her in an object or a bubble or shatter her.

>Steven: *breaks down crying asking desperately why they can't be friends, whilst wearing drag and makeup*
>Finn: *beats the living shit out of Steven making lesbian related puns*

Logically speaking, Steven is more consistently displayed as having super human attributes, while Finn is typically portrayed as just being a somewhat tougher than average human.
That said, Death Battle would probably go full retard and take that one instance of Finn lifting a giant demon with his demon blood sword as proof that Finn can lift a gagillion tons, and would give him the win.
The real answer is that it depends entirely on what era Fin we're talking about. Fin with Grass Arm powers wrecks Steven, but Steven could probably wreck modern Finn.

>(a 12 year old girl with minimal training beat them handily)
To be fair, Rose's sword is explicitly designed to cut through a gem's physical form like butter, while being unable to harm the gem part of them. Using something like that against what are basically zombies, it would makes sense that Connie did so well.

>Steven vs Eyeball
Now that's not even fair, Steven was clearly not trying to fight there.

But seriously, Steven has had some decent showings. Like Steven vs. Amethyst.

Finn fights better and doesn't hold back as much. I hate both shows but I can acknowledge this.

>Finn: *Breaks down because his current girlfriend dumped him and he got raped by LSP again.
>Steven: *Knocks him out with a single punch to put him out of his misery for a brief moment.

There's no contest on this. Steven literally never made an opponent submit on his own, he always stall until somebody else steps in to finish the job. There was even times when people asked him to punch them and he couldn't put any of his super strength into it.

Meanwhile, Finn went head on against monsters that can crush planets and lived despite having no special powers.

If you take they're psychology into account, Steven would cry uncle and submit because he just can't harm a powerless human while Finn has did get carried away into overkill before.

On the other hand, if we tone down the wussiness of Steven, it would only be natural to even things out by making him face one of the many powered up versions of Finn. Be it by giving Finn his grass sword back or literally any other magical weapon he used to have, in which case Steven's invulnerability isn't gonna be enough to keep him alive.

A reminder

He lost that sword and his current one is thin as fuck

It's all a matter of context at this point. If there is a sword available that can shatter gems, Finn is faster, smarter and more experienced so there is no reason he couldn't grab it and one-hit Steven

Bit lets be honest, the whole shattering thing is a bit irrelevant since it was never really clear if Steven actually needed to get shattered in order to die. For all we know, just stabbing his meat body might be enough.

Death Battle doesn't do prep time so he's stuck with the Small Sword for now