Say what you will about the man, but he makes good movies

Say what you will about the man, but he makes good movies.

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No he doesn’t. His movies are boomer trash.

Say what you will about boomers.

Not really, no.

i like his early funny films.

Annie Hall was trash.
Manhattan was worse.
Love and Death was okay.
He magnum opus was Antz.

>Annie Hall was trash.
I bet you're one of those people who thought Star Wars was better.

Agreed.

He has made good movies.

Or does he?
*X-Files theme*

I tried to watch this in college, I think I made it to the part where Diane Keaton is singing in the club. Movie made me want to kill myself

Then it succeeded at what it set out to do.

filthy degenerate jew

>degenerate

A lot of people question Woody Allen's reputation of being a hack.
He is a hack, in the sense that he always does the same shit in all his flicks.
Annie Hall was the first Woody Allen movie I watched, and I loved it. It was creative, inovative in many ways, funny and different than the usual comedy.
Then I went on to watch Manhattan. It was the same thing, but in B&W: neurotic intelectual jewish struggling artist living in New York has romantic issues.
Not only the premisse was uninventive, the execution wasn't all that great, and the whole plot about a 42yo dating a 17yo like that was the most normal thing in the world was ridiculous, and made me want to puke (of course, pedos will try to defend this). But what made me cringe the most is the dialogue he tried to push, as natural conversation, but was nothing but a bunch of wannabe cult gibberish.
It made sense to me that the people who loved Woody Allen act like such uptight poseur cunts, because they wanted to be just like him, that pretentious faggot.
It baffled me to find out this was considered one of his masterpieces, as it seemed like a poor rehash. Then I went on to watch other of his stuff, just to find out it's the same shit over and over again.
Same romantic plots with his neurotic auteur alter ego, same self deprecating jokes, same ridiculously pretentious dialogue.
I'm with Orson Welles - who criticized Allen's "comical persona" - on this one. Welles was an intellectual, but for the sake of knowledge and reflexion, not to make himself look smart in silly flicks.
He didn't loosely refferenced Swedish directors or german philosophy, for no particular reason. Even more so, he made films with a good understanding of human nature, instead of just "wow, Freudian theories about upbringing are true and relationships are hard".
Plus, he was a complete artist, not only working as a writer, but also was a fantastic director and a competent actor.
Sorry about the rant, but I'm pretty pissed off.

This movie is underrated and good

Annie Hall is ok but Allen will be known an auteur forever thanks to Crimes and Misdemeanors. What an amazing, great film, which shows his usual character in a truthful way: a beta that doesn't get the hot woman, because of course.

What Welles movies should I watch?

is it funny?

larry david is in it so yes

missing the words "soyboy" "cringe" and "kino"

I fucking love the first two minutes of Annie Hall, will never forget those two jokes.
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Woody Allen makes good movies.

Funny guy, too. I remember one of his early, early movies is just voices dubbed over a Japanese detective movie. I forget the name but it was hilarious.

t. soyboy

cringe

Soy is in there to account for both soyboy and general use of soy. By the way, check out this soyboy. Ha ha, bearded people with their mouths open are so worthless, aren't they?

Citizen Kane, Macbeth, Falstaff (Chimes at Midnight), The Lady from Shanghai, Touch of Evil, The Trial, F for Fake

What's Up, Tiger Lily?

Perhaps the first "fan edit" ever made.

Crimes and Misdemeanors, Hannah and Her Sisters, Radio Days, and The Purple Rose of Cairo are all kino

I also really liked Irrational Man of his newer stuff

1977 was an incredibly weak year. Star Wars isn't sophisticated enough for Best Picture, but it IS better than Annie Hall. Equus (which wasn't even nominated) probably should have won.

>Star Wars isn't sophisticated enough for Best Picture
I really hate the Academy's pretentious notion that the winner of best picture has to be serious or sophisticated. It should be inconsequential.

So a film has to be "sophisticated" to be Best Picture? Come on. For all their snobbery the Academy is full of people who talk like football players and don't even watch half the films that are nominated. Which really makes you wonder why they get to be the ones to vote on them.

He's right. The only genre that has ever seemingly been exempt from this is musicals which virtually went extinct for decades.
The academy is pretentious and despite half of them barely watching movies they wish to pick the film that seems the most important.

Thanks.

Well, I should probably have said "wasn't," given that more recently films like Braveheart and Gladiator have won Best Picture over more sophisticated competition. Then again, in the last decade or so, the pendulum seems to have swung back in the other direction again, and we have films winning BP that no one even saw (like last year).

This. Woody Allen is the male equivalent of Nora Ephron, all of whose best known films as a director were just copies of When Harry Met Sally (which she wrote).

That's why I don't take Oscar noms as a list of "the best of the year" but instead as "here's a handful of generally good films to check out if I haven't already." Frankly, the Golden Globes strikes me as better for all involved since the HFPA looks at films (and television shows) the Academy doesn't. And the actors, filmmakers, et al. seem to have a better time at the event itself.

>Frankly, the Golden Globes strikes me as better for all involved since the HFPA looks at films (and television shows) the Academy doesn't. And the actors, filmmakers, et al. seem to have a better time at the event itself.
I think they're generally more relaxed because the event has never carried the prestige that has been placed on the Academy awards.
As far as best pictures go I'd love for the globes to introduce a 3rd category in Golden Globe Award for 'Best Motion Picture – Genre' so that sci-fi, horror and everything else that is well made could get a bit more attention, credit and audience than it otherwise might.

I dunno. I'd say that, until about a decade ago (around the time they increased the number of nominees), the Academy got it right most of the time in my opinion. Not always, by any means, but more often than not.

One of the ones I disagreed with, I believe was ironically the result of the Academy trying to compensate for it's earlier anti-blockbuster bias, and that's Titanic beating out Good Will Hunting, 20 years after Star Wars lost to Annie Hall. IMO, Crouching Tiger should have beaten out Gladiator, too, but foreign-language films never win (and that's a bias that's only gotten worse in recent years, as fewer foreign language films are even nominated now, compared to when there were only five nominees).

>and that's Titanic beating out Good Will Hunting
But LA Confidential should have won.

Also a valid choice. Shouldn't have been Titanic, either way.

deconstructing harry and the mighty aphrodite are the best movies of the 90s, god-tier. that tennis movie is also bloody great.

The guy makes great films.

Yes some are repetitive as fuck, but when he puts an interesting spin on a concept, it's amazing.

Hannah and Her Sisters, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Annie Hall, Bananas, Take the Money and Run, The Purple Rose of Cairo are all great films. Even Midnight in Paris was enjoyable - despite the fact people like to hate on it.

His modern films are pretty banal though; with the exception of probably Blue Jasmine.

He personally hated Manhattan, you know? Wanted to destroy the film once he made it.

>despite the fact people like to hate on it.
Why is that? I love it.

dunno, i think people hate on Owen Wilson, or maybe it's the fantastical elements. Not sure.

nice trips

wtf I love Woody now

who the fuck hates Owen Wilson

>dunno, i think people hate on Owen Wilson,
They do? I'd much rather watch him chase after Marion Cottilard than Woody Allen. I thought his suicide attempt endeared him to a lot of people too.
>or maybe it's the fantastical elements
Maybe, I guess the time traveling device isn't ever really distinct although desu I don't think it needs to be.

God