Why we're the police so mean to Rambo? Is it because he was a shitalian?

Why we're the police so mean to Rambo? Is it because he was a shitalian?

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Veterans caused trouble back in the day at least the kind that would drift around. Think about it this way, the Hells Angels were all veterans originally.

>Veterans caused trouble back in the day at least the kind that would drift around.
No they didn't.

>Think about it this way, the Hells Angels were all veterans originally.
No they fucking weren't.

Old WW2 vets shitting on a Vietnam vet

Watched this for the first time a few days ago. Pretty kino

most citizens didn't like the war in Vietnam, thought we shouldn't be there and thought the soldiers were fighting an unjust war for good old uncle sam and murdering a bunch of poor gooks.

Didn't they?

It ain't me

It doesn't really make any sense.
>hey there soldier boy, shove your medal of honor up your ass
I seriously doubt a bunch of old white police officers were calling veterans baby killers.

The sheriff assumed he was a drug addict drifter who'd cause nothing but trouble. The cops in that tiny town didn't have anything better to do than harass him.

Actually, The Hell's Angels were not only vets, a large majority of them were members of the Hell's Angels Flying Squadron during World War Two.

Plus, for a very long time almost all motorcycle clubs, especially the so called "1%" were all veterans.

The first Rambo movie is a very good movie, indeed.

One has to take into account the fact that the local sheriff and his deputies didn't know that Rambo was a veteran until AFTER he was arrested. The sheriff thought he was just a homeless vagrant or drifter, but yeah, he should've just let him get something to eat, and be on his way. He just found out the last of his company died of cancer due to being exposed to Agent Orange, and all he wanted at that point was to get something to eat before moving on.

yeah the angels were founded by vets originally...WWIII vets, though

He was a bum and the cops wanted to keep their community clean. He wasn't even mean about it but Rambo just walked back in on principle.

Korean war vets shitting on nam vet.

No they weren't. That's an urban legend.

>Plus, for a very long time almost all motorcycle clubs, especially the so called "1%" were all veterans.
You're out of your fucking mind.

CONTRARIAN SPOTTED!

You seem to know something about The Hell's Angels, and other "Outlaw" or "1%" motorcycle clubs.

What, exactly do you know? Who were in the original clubs, What kind of people were they?

If we're wrong about the originally being vets, why don't you enlighten us and tell us what you know?

because he's a 5'8 italian and you can't have those guys coming around and shitting up the place

>That's an urban legend.
Refute it then.

Because we lost the Vietnam War because vets like him didn't fight as they should have done.

some of them would manage to keep their weapon and you'd have drug addicted guys with m16's just driving around

A bunch of bored cops in small-town America tend to fuck with anyone they don't like. In the case of Rambo, they see a long-haired hobo who's dirtying up the street.

He's a veteran? Fuck him, he's a veteran of an unpopular war that we lost. He's a hero? Fuck him, he didn't save anybody that I know. He's a killing machine? Fuck him, we've got him handcuffed, and are kicking the shit out of him. Oh wait.

Really, they should've just given the guy a sandwich and called it a day.

>the local sheriff and his deputies didn't know that Rambo was a veteran until AFTER he was arrested. The sheriff thought he was just a homeless vagrant or drifter,
Pretty much this. For all the sheriff knew, he was a vagrant that was there to shit up the town, and Rambo didn't really do much to make him think differently. A lot of people also seem to miss that Teasle was actually being pretty civil before Rambo started getting antagonistic and openly defying him. The whole problem was basically caused by both people acting like stubborn dickheads.

That was Rambo's whole thing: none of the other vets DID fight as hard as him. At least, not the ones who lived to tell about it. It's why his first line in Rambo: First Blood Part 2 is "Do we get to win this time?"

Wanting to eat because you’re hungry is defying the police now? You need police permission to eat?

Only if you can finish The Freedom Twister.

Teasle was pretty friendly for a dickish small town cop, and gave him a ride out of town. Rambo knew he was dealing with a person that was going to give him problems, and instead of just leaving, he kept walking back to town, which he knew was going to cause problems. The sheriff didn't need to hassle him, but Rambo didn't need to provoke the sheriff.

In the book, he actually does in on purpose because he still has a serious chip on his shoulder and is constantly looking for fights. He ends up seeing his fight with the cops as his last chance at getting an honorable death, and it's implied, he was looking for that all along.

It is an allegory of how the society turned against the Vietnam vets.

Did you actually ever see First Blood?

>overweight burger mad at his ancestors because they didnt win some meaningless war some decades ago

A Free ride out of town isn’t a nice thing when it’s against your will you fucking bootlicker. Who knows Rambo had gone without a meal and who knows how far the next town and his next meal was going to be?

That would explain why they originally had Rambo force Teasle to shoot him. On one hand, I think it's unfortunate that Stallone went back on this decision, but on the other hand that decision gave us the rest of the Rambo movies, so I can't really hold it against him.

>You will never butcher commies with an m60 that fires RPGs

All people anti Rambo are neet fats trying to be edgy.
The fucking fat liberal sheriff BTFO

>but on the other hand that decision gave us the rest of the Rambo movies

They're all garbage though

This. Rambo being forced out of the small Washington town was the same as Rambo being forced out of Vietnam. Except in Washington, there was nobody to stop him from going back. People always think of the shaving scene being what triggered Rambo, but I really think Rambo got triggered the moment the cop in charge started telling him what to do.

No. It was because he looked poor. If you where poor you would know.

>No.
>No.
>this is how Americans make arguments
The idea that "everyone is special" and "everyone's opinion matters" is fucking cancerous. People no longer need to clarify their positions, it's enough to make a statement and as that's your opinion no one can argue against it.

I don't like throwing around the term soyboy, but buddy, you are a fucking soyboy to the max.

No one likes homeless people, and no one wants homeless people to start invading their towns. The sheriff didn't know shit about Rambo except that he looked (and probably was) homeless, and dealt with him accordingly. Rambo could have easily said he was a vet that was in town to visit a friend, but he didn't, he let the sheriff think he was a drifter that had no reason to be there. Believe or not, small town cops are still like that, I've dealt with them on a few occasions. In a perfect world and when you can act like a badass on the internet, yeah, it's good to think it's worth standing up to people when you think you're right, but it also sucks to get locked up and fined over nothing. When given that choice, most people woud prefer to not make a problem for themselves. And the same goes for you, unless you're one of those "AM I BEING DETAINED? I DO NOT CONSENT!" shirtless idiots in those hilarious youtube videos.

If Rambo didn't want to cause any problems, he could have just left when Teasle asked him to, nicely. He didn't. Again, I'm not saying Teasle was in the right, but try to see this from the point of view of both characters. It's a problem they both created by actively being dicks to each other for no reason.

>For all the sheriff knew, he was a vagrant that was there to shit up the town
Your job, as a sheriff, is to enforce the law. It isn't to keep up property values, you fucking retard. Treating people as criminals BEFORE they've actually committed a crime is the exact opposite of helpful, because when you treat people like shit they tend to lash out. Nobody wants somebody to walk all over them when they haven't done anything.

If Rambo was getting drunk or loitering or something, the cop might have had a point. But he looked at Rambo, decided he didn't like the look of him and pretty much thought he didn't belong in "his" town. And that kind of arrogant and wrongheaded logic is exactly what starts a breakdown in communication between law enforcement officers and the rest of the populace.

That's the exact reason vagrancy laws exist.

To be fair, I think the book does a better job illustrating the two men's viewpoints. The cop, while a bit on the rough side, is generally a well-meaning guy who treats his fellow officers like family. Rambo, on the other hand, is more of a wild dog with hair-trigger rage. For the sake of the movie, they made Rambo more sympathetic and the cop less so, but the blueprint is still kind of there.

>vagrancy laws
Which are often criticized for being vague in the terminology used to describe exactly who might be an offender, thus giving the police too much discretion.

Regardless, the sheriff didn't charge him with anything, he was just being a condescending dick.

I was homeless when I got out of the military. Shit sucks and when you’re hungry you’re willing to deal with assholes, and everyone’s an asshole when you’re a bum. But you’re a fucking pussy and a bootlicker. You don’t have to justify shit to a cop because a cop has no right to deny you access to services. He said he wanted to get some food. What’s wrong with that? There’s a fine line between tucking your tail like you advocate and going full REEE AM I BEING DETAINED. Rambo did absolutely nothing wrong.

This is nothing. Small town police would illegally imprison anyone that didn't have a fixed home address and job. So they would demonize anything associated with a vagrant. If you didn't have these things, you make capitalism look bad.

And the truth is, this STILL happens. Even big city cops are guilty of it. Doesn't matter if you served your country in the military (like me) or if you went to college and made straight A's (again, like me). If you're homeless, you're a problem.

The ONLY difference between me and that guy you see on the side of the road shitting in a bush is I had one family member left that was willing to take me in and give me the patience/time to recoup my losses from Great Recession, stolen savings (ex g/f) and massive college debt. (now I'm debt free with 65k in bank). If you're not as lucky as me, the police are your enemy.

>A lot of people also seem to miss that Teasle was actually being pretty civil

>Any law against me getting something to eat here?
>Yeah, me.

>Why are you pushing me? I haven't done anything
>First of all, you don't ask the questions around here. I do. You understand?

You're an idiot with a very shitty definition of the world 'civil'. Get fucked.

>look at me!

they drew first bleughh

And that's exactly the point I'm making. For the last time, I'm not saying that the sheriff was right. Teasle was being a typical small town sheriff who was exerting control because of who he assumed Rambo was. Rambo decided to act like a stubborn dick because he was still holding a grudge against society and was looking for a fight. Like says, the movie tries to make Rambo a little more sympathetic, but the book portrays the conflict as something inevitable because of the wrongdoings of everyone involved.

>Rambo decided to act like a stubborn dick because he was still holding a grudge against society and was looking for a fight

He decided to walk back across the bridge specifically because the cop was telling him where he could and could not go. It was a fuck you to the arrogant dickhead that mistakenly assumed he could tell people who could and could not walk through the town. Rambo was simply saying "I will go where I want, because I have that right." You're saying Rambo was being a dick, but Rambo didn't insult the cop, or raise his voice, or shirk off to authority. He seemed to take the abuse as a matter of course, because I'm sure he had gotten the same treatment in many other towns before. But since the scene with the sheriff occurred shortly after he learned his friend had died, it was the last straw.

Your analysis is shit and wrong.

Ameritards suck at ground-war and counterinsurgency. Even the Germans used to make fun of their infantry tactics. All Americans know is how to drop bombs from planes.

If America had skilled diplomats, they could have used realpolitik to easily win the war with far less effort by bringing the local populace on their side.

All the did was turn the entire population against them and attract massive Russian intervention which caused them to win the war.

Just look at what the Brits did in the Malayan emergency, that's how you beat chinks in a jungle insurgency. It's about politics and demographics not about firepower.

The Iraq war didn't even begin to turn to the Americans failure until they began buying off tribal sheikhs and arming them to be on their side instead of against them. That would have worked if they continued that policy but dumbass Americans always screw everything up.

You've obviously never dealt with small town cops. Teasle is being a condescending dick, but he's obviously trying to keep their conversion way nicer than any cop I've dealt with in a similar situation. He didn't act angry until Rambo started walking back towards the town, and he tried to avoid arresting him.

>Your analysis is shit and wrong.
Tell that to David Morell.

Because he was scruffy. They did nothing wrong.

>Teasle is being a condescending dick, but he's obviously trying to keep their conversion way nicer than any cop I've dealt with in a similar situation
Is this supposed to be a point? If someone acts like an asshole, you don't give them a pass because they "could" have acted worse.

>He didn't act angry until Rambo started walking back towards the town
Why the fuck do you think that anger is the only sign of incivility?

>All Americans know is how to drop bombs from planes.


Gotta admit, when it works, it works like a charm.

To be in the Hell's Angels you have to shut in your pants. And leave them on for an hour

The guy who had no involvement of the production of the film? Stop trying to analyze the movie based on your understanding of the book. You’re fucking aware that they tell a different story so why are you being such a dense fuck. You know we’re talking about the movie here. Are you just waiting for someone to pat you on the back for reading book?

He was a dirty bum and you used to be allowed to lynch deadbeats like him. The sheriff was just trying to make America great again.

Because people who join the police force are generally low-IQ dirtbags with tiny, tiny wieners who get off on treating people like shit.

The french were there first and they had people in their own factories back home sabotaging their equipment. One account was a French soldier pulled the pin on a grenade and didn’t explode and a message was in it saying “the women on France support the viet cong”

>It's over, France. I have the high ground.

Why is it so unbeatable?

>deadbeat
>able to fly helicopters, drive tanks, and being entrusted with million-dollar equipment

Sure thing pal.

Then why couldn't he hold a job washing cars?

That's kind of a point of the film - he really is a deadbeat. In Vietnam, his skills were in incredible demand. In America, during peacetime, he's not worth anything. He's really kind of useless.

You ever tried washing a Trans-Am? Shit's tough, yo. Besides, I thought he got fired from parking cars?

>Besides, I thought he got fired from parking cars?

Shit you're right, for some reason I thought he said washing.

I guess. I always figured that deadbeats were more of a NEET situation, without the benefit of mom's basement and pizza rolls. Way I look at it, "Eating things that would make a billygoat puke" is an invaluable skill.

the cops were all closet homosexuals (closeted to the world, openly homosexual around each other) and they believed Rambo to also be a homosexual. The forced shower was a test to see if Rambo would get excited. The director states this several times in the commentary.

Faggot didnt have a car

>sabotaging their own military’s weapons
Wouldn’t that be treason

>No they fucking weren't.

Explain.

We'll wait.

>All Americans know is how to drop bombs from planes.

What else is there?

Pretty much. There's a reason that there aren't ground battles between armies anymore. Deploying a dozen jarheads in a bombed out village doesn't count.

Don't get pissy because no one wants literal trash wandering into their town, being a homeless makes you less than human.

>tfw no Australian Vietnam movie
youtu.be/kg7ZkKilkE0

>most citizens didn't like the war in Vietnam

Completely untrue.

so? I do that every day

There was a doctor who went over the NAM to treat the gooks and even helped torture captures french soldiers. After France surrendered he was allowed back home without charges and live there until his death. He has a wikipedia article, but I can't remember his name. Just goes to show how cucked France is.

that sounds painful

And then he became a shiftless vagabond.

>and attract massive Russian intervention

You must be thinking of a different war, user.

damn why couldn't we get general user to win all our wars for us. and like always he's from some eurotarded country that's never won dildos except getting smashed by larger powers.

Except USA didn't lose the war and was quite successful in almost every battle they fought. It's their Vietnamese ally who lost.

>Because people who join the police force are generally low-IQ dirtbags with tiny, tiny wieners who get off on treating people like shit.
this
if you do well on the intelligence portion of most police tests they will more heavily scrutinize your application. they want someone who will follow orders not someone who will question what their told to do
Also power tripping manlets who got bullied in highschool seems like a common theme.

He was a godamn hobo
If you don't deal with them they multiply rapidly.
The sheriff even told him take a fucking bath you won't get hassled so much.

the french really were in the wrong though

Students didn't.

I may be wrong, though, but, IIRC, they've shut up once Nixon said that there won't be draft lotteries any more.
That's all with "muh poor gooks" virtue signaling - students just didn't want to get their ass on the line.

Cop man was jelly cuz he was a Korean War vet and the Vietnam War vets got all the attention while most people didn't even remember there was a Korean War.

>All Americans know is how to drop bombs from planes.

Yes, and Japan and Germany haven't fucked with the U.S. since 1945.

Can't argue with the end results.

>kill your own soldiers by sabotaging or working with the enemy
Imagine how those soldiers or families felt.

>source
truth is nobody cared enough about that war to pull a stunt like this.

>said burger that never stepped into full scale war either on his territory or as not a part of the Goyim coalition.

>be simpleton rice patty family, slaving away to put food on the table
>entire family gets blown up/gassed/war crimed
Imagine how all their extended family must have felt

Dunno, French were occupying the country and I'm sure everybody here knows Anti-Hitler resistance in Germany during WWII.
Not really different amirite?

didn't a lot of french women get german boyfriends while they were there?

French women are known for interbreeding with non-whites, yes.

What's your point, didn't a lot of German women got a Russian boyfriend while they were there?

Well yeah, that happens whenever troops are stationed in or occupying a foreign land.
Even the Burgers scored a bunch of limey wifeys while their troops were hanging around the Isles.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Martin_affair
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Indochina_War
>Even ammunition sabotage by PCF agents has been reported, such as grenades exploding in the hands of legionaries.
PCF is the communist party in France