WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Batman Film Series

Batman 89
>Tom Mankiewicz completed a script titled The Batman in June 1983, focusing on Batman and Dick Grayson's origins, with the Joker and Rupert Thorne as villains, and Silver St. Cloud as the romantic interest. In the original script, Rupert Thorne hires Joe Chill to murder Thomas Wayne because he is running against Thorne for city council.

>Originally, Mankiewicz had wanted an unknown actor for Batman, William Holden for James Gordon, David Niven as Alfred Pennyworth, and Peter O'Toole as the Penguin, whom Mankiewicz wanted to portray as a mobster with low body temperature. A number of filmmakers were attached to Mankiewicz' script, including Ivan Reitman and Joe Dante. Reitman wanted to cast Bill Murray as Batman and Eddie Murphy as Robin.

>Burton stated in an interview that he had initially wanted Adam West and Julie Newmar to play Thomas and Martha Wayne in the flashback, symbolizing the "death" of the old Batman. Script rewrites caused this to be scrapped, and West later said he wasn't even offered the role (and even if he was, he wouldn't have taken it).

>Parallel to the Superman casting, a who's who of Hollywood top stars were considered for the role of Batman, including. Burton was pressured by Warner Bros. to cast an obvious action movie star, and approached Pierce Brosnan, but he had no interest in playing a comic book character. Burton was originally interested in casting an unknown actor, and offered Ray Liotta a chance to audition after having completed Something Wild, but Liotta declined, a decision he regrets.

>Also considered for the role of Batman: Mel Gibson, Kevin Costner, Charlie Sheen, Tom Selleck, Bill Murray, Harrison Ford, Alec Baldwin, Jeff Bridges, Emilio Estevez, Matthew Broderick, Tom Cruise, Michael J. Fox, Harrison Ford, Robert Downey, Jr., Kevin Spacey, Patrick Swayze, Kurt Russell, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Daniel Day-Lewis, Tom Hanks, Kevin Kline and Bruce Willis.

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>Brad Dourif, Tim Curry, David Bowie, John Lithgow and James Woods were considered for the Joker. Burton wanted to cast Brad Dourif, but the studio refused. Robin Williams lobbied hard for the part. Jack Nicholson had been producer Michael Uslan's and Bob Kane's choice since 1980.

>Sean Young was originally cast as Vicki Vale, but was injured in a horse-riding accident prior to commencement of filming. Other actresses approached to play Vicki include: Jamie Lee Curtis, Madonna, Mia Farrow, Carrie Fisher, Diane Keaton, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker, Michelle Pfeiffer, Sissy Spacek, Sharon Stone, Meryl Streep, Sela Ward, Sigourney Weaver and dozens of others.

>Burton chose Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent because he wanted to include the villain Two-Face in a future film using the concept of an African-American Two-Face for the black and white concept, but Tommy Lee Jones was later cast in the role.

>Originally in the climax, the Joker was to kill Vicki Vale, sending Batman into a vengeful fury. Jon Peters reworked the climax without telling Burton and commissioned production designer Anton Furst to create a 38-foot (12 m) model of the cathedral. This cost $100,000 when the film was already well over budget. Burton disliked the idea, having no clue how the scene would end: "Here were Jack Nicholson and Kim Basinger walking up this cathedral, and halfway up Jack turns around and says, 'Why am I walking up all these stairs? Where am I going?' 'We'll talk about it when you get to the top!' I had to tell him that I didn't know."

>The Coen Brothers reportedly turned down the chance to make the film, because they didn't want to do a film that wasn't theirs. David Cronenberg was also offered a chance to direct but declined.

>Michael Jackson was asked to write and perform the songs for the movie, but he had to turn it down due to his concert commitments.

Batman Returns
>After the success of Batman, Warner Bros. was hoping for a sequel to start filming in May 1990 at Pinewood Studios. They spent $250,000 storing the sets from the first film. Tim Burton originally did not want to direct another film in the franchise, but eventually returned after being offered much more creative control, although the restored sets were not utilized. One of the only demands Warner Bros made was the inclusion of Penguin as the main villain, which Burton was initially opposed to before rewriting the character.

>The character of Max Shreck was originally written for Harvey Dent (Billy Dee Williams), thus explaining the character's political ambitions. His disfiguring appearance of Two-Face would have appeared in the climax when Catwoman kisses him with a taser to the face, which was replaced with Max Shreck. Waters quoted, "Sam Hamm definitely planned that. I flirted with it, having Harvey start to come back and have one scene of him where he flips a coin and it's the good side of the coin, deciding not to do anything, so you had to wait for the next movie."

>In early scripts Max Shreck was the "golden boy" of the Cobblepot family, whereas Penguin was the deformed outsider. It turned out that Shreck would be the Penguin's long-lost brother

>Annette Bening was Tim Burton's original choice to play Selina/Catwoman, but she turned it down due to her pregnancy.. Sean Young, still bitter over losing the role of Vicki Vale, lobbied hard to secure the role as Catwoman, even going as far as to confront a production office wearing a homemade Catwoman costume, with disastrous results. Other candidates were Cher , Bridget Fonda, Jodie Foster, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Madonna, Demi Moore and Raquel Welch.

>Danny Devito was the first, and only, choice for Penguin. Burgess Meredith was cast for a little cameo as Tucker Cobblepot, Penguin's father, but illness prevented him from it

>and approached Pierce Brosnan, but he had no interest in playing a comic book character
Fucker...

>Although DeVito was Burton's definitive choice from the start, other actors were suggested, including Dustin Hoffman, Marlon Brando, John Candy, Bob Hoskins, Ralph Waite, John Goodman, Dean Martin, Alan Rickman, Christopher Lee, Joe Pesci, Ray Liotta and Christopher Lloyd.

>Danny DeVito said he read in the paper he was being considered for the role of the Penguin over a year before he was even offered the part. He reportedly stayed in-character between takes, scaring most of the people and animals on set, and had to have make-up done on him for the voice-overs.

>There was talk of having Jack Nicholson return as the Joker, despite his fate at the end of the previous film, as well as the return of Vicki Vale. All of this was thrown out once Tim Burton agreed to return as director because he didn't want to make a direct sequel for whatever reason, though the film did still reference the previous film's events.

>David Bowie, who had been previously considered to play the Joker in Batman (1989), was the first choice for the part of Max Shreck before Christopher Walken was cast. Bowie turned down the role in favor of Twin Peaks. Tim Burton was reportedly uncomfortable with casting Christopher Walken as Max Shreck. When she asked him why he said, "Because that man scares the hell out of me."

>Dick Grayson was going to have a cameo played by Marlon Wayans. He would have been a young mechanic nicknamed "The Kid", who was enlisted to remove the remote control device Penguin had installed on the Batmobile, before helping Batman stop the legion of penguin commandos from destroying Gotham. Apparently, Marlon still gets residual checks for the movie to this day.

You're doing good, OP. Keep it up.

Batman Forever
>Originally Burton was intended to handle the franchise. But due to the controversy raised by Batman Returns, McDonalds pulling their advertising reportedly because of the scene where Penguin bites off a man's nose and other events surrounding it's release, Burton was removed from the franchise after one meeting. Still, he reports that he much prefers his work in Returns over the first film, and that it was time for him to do different things. Nevertheless, Burton is credited on the movie as a producer, as he had been involved in drafting the original story.

>Sam Raimi lobbied to be the director before Schumacher was hired.

>Unlike Burton, Schumacher was a life-long comic book fan before signing in and originally wanted to do a film version of Year One. He had Frank Miller's help in drafting a screenplay. Schumacher claims he originally had in mind an adaptation of Frank Miller's Batman: Year One. Warner Bros. rejected the idea as they wanted a sequel, not a prequel, and wanted something that could be sold to kids.

>Michael Keaton left development due to Burton's departure and his dislike for the script, turning down 15 million. Val Kilmer jumped at the chance to play Batman, signing on without having read the script or knowing who the director was. Other names considered for the part included Daniel Day-Lewis, Kurt Russell, Alec Baldwin, Ethan Hawke, Ralph Fiennes, Tom Hanks, Keanu Reeves and Johnny Depp

>Robin debuted in the film, albeit not played by Marlon Wayans. Other candidates included Leonardo Dicaprio, Matt Damon, Jude Law, Ewan McGregor, Corey Haim, Corey Feldman, Toby Stephens, Mark Wahlberg and Scott Speedman

>Billy Dee Williams took on the role of Harvey Dent in Batman on the possibility of portraying Two-Face in a sequel, but Schumacher cast Tommy Lee Jones in the role, after having worked with him on The Client. Jones was reluctant to accept the role, but did so after his son's insistence.

That sounds terrible, thank god we got the movie that we did

I've never considered it until reading this thread, but I definitely want a Joe Pesci Penguin now.

>Before the helm was turned to Schumacher, Burton supposedly wanted Mickey Dolenz as the Riddler, complete with a question mark carved into his forehead. Carrey was planning on shaving a question mark on his head, but scrapped it because he was due in court for his divorce proceedings.

> Robin Williams was in discussions to be the Riddler at one point. In a 2003 interview, Schumacher stated Michael Jackson lobbied hard for the role, but was turned down before Jim Carrey was cast.

>There was an undercurrent theme involving Bruce having repressed memories of an aspect of his parents' death that he hadn't faced which was finding his father's diary on the night of his parents' wake and reading that Bruce insisted his parents go to the theater so he could watch one of the shows, meaning the reason he became Batman was out of the guilt that he killed them.

>Many scenes were ultimately deleted from the final product or never filmed due to the rushed, troubled production and the conflicts between Val Kilmer and Joel Schumacher, and Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones. Some of these include: the escape of Two-Face from Arkham Asylum as the opening scene, where he would have written "The Bat Must Die" with blood on the wall, as well as a brief sequence involving Bruce waking up after being shot in the head by Two-Face, temporarily forgetting his origin and life as the Dark Knight and rediscovering his origins.

>Early concepts of the final showdown on Claw Island had a huge, muscled, Riddler sitting on his throne when Batman finds him. The Riddler twists the two skulls on his armrests and the Riddler's muscled body is revealed to be a shell which splits in two, from which the real Riddler (wearing his white and green jumpsuit) steps out.

>At one point, when Tim Burton was going to direct, he was going to cast Brad Dourif as The Scarecrow.

Batman & Robin
>Schumacher originally had a strong interest in casting William Baldwin in Kilmer's place, but George Clooney was cast instead. David Duchovny was also considered.

>Nicole Kidman was slated to play Poison Ivy in the previous film. While the character appeared in Batman & Robin, she was played by Uma Thurman instead. Julia Roberts, Sharon Stone, and Demi Moore were all rumored to be in the running for Poison Ivy

>Patrick Stewart, Ed Harris Sylvester Stallone, Anthony Hopkins and Hulk Hogan were considered for Mr. Freeze. After being the one who suggested Danny DeVito as the Penguin in Batman Returns, Arnold was chosen to play Mr.Freeze. Arnold stated that the outfit was suffocating and shortly after finishing the film he was forced to undergo heart surgery. Still, he remarks that he thought Freeze was a good character and eventually took the armor with him after shooting was over.

>Kane Hodder was Joel Schumacher's first choice for Bane, until he chose Jeep Swenson for his height at 6'4

>In earlier drafts, Barbara wasn't actually Alfred's niece but the daughter of an old friend of his that came to see him as her "uncle". This was kept for the comic adaptation. Additionally, Barbara's Batgirl costume was to also have a full-head cowl, but Schumacher didn't like the look of it after a costume test and wanted Alicia Silverstone's hair to flow freely. Thus, the domino mask was used, though Silverstone does use a cowl as Batgirl in one scene.

>John Goodman
I now imagine Goodman Penguin breaking Keaton Batman Bane style.

>Before the film was even released, plans were in motion for continuations of the franchise. The first was a fifth film (working title was Batman Unchained). Schumacher wanted to return to the style of the Burton films and make a much darker story. The Scarecrow would've been the main villain, with Harley Quinn (here, the Joker's daughter seeking revenge) and Man-Bat (his mutation caused by Crane) in supporting roles. Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito were in negotiations to return as the Joker and Penguin (albeit as hallucinations). There were also rumors that Howard Stern would be the voice of Scarecrow and Batman was going to be played by Bret Hart. The negative reception to Batman & Robin post-release led to Warner eventually ending those plans.

>The second idea was a Robin/Nightwing spin-off, with Chris O'Donnell reprising his role as Dick Grayson/Robin/Nightwing. It is speculated that, if films beyond Batman Unchained were to be made, O'Donnell would be Nightwing rather than Robin.

>After the film's negative reception, plans for Tim Burton's "Superman Lives" have been shut down. The movie would've been a first attempt to have a shared universe between Batman and Superman, with George Clooney reprising his role as Batman, and with Nicolas Cage as Superman.

>After the movie failed, Joel Schumacher also had several meetings with Warner Bros. to get them to reconsider letting him do another Batman movie. Schumacher wanted to take the film back to its darker roots and make the "Batman: Year One" movie he wanted to since the beginning. Schumacher wanted to cast Kurt Russell as a young Commissioner Gordon and would have had Selina Kyle as a young, beautiful African-American woman living in the ghetto. However, Warner Bros. decided not to rehire Schumacher.

>Bill Murray
>Michael J Fox

The Mankiewicz script sounds like it could've been better than Burton's Batman, but the directors and casting choices were fucking terrible (Holden, and O'Toole could've been good, and Niven would've been fucking perfect).

>Brad Dourif as The Scarecrow.
Aww, shit!

>Early concepts of the final showdown on Claw Island had a huge, muscled, Riddler sitting on his throne when Batman finds him. The Riddler twists the two skulls on his armrests and the Riddler's muscled body is revealed to be a shell which splits in two, from which the real Riddler (wearing his white and green jumpsuit) steps out.
>Big Riddle wasn't just something the video game created
Well, I learned something today.

(OP)
in retrospect Michael J Fox as flash would have been great

>he remarks that he thought Freeze was a good character
>not cool character

>Hogan Freeze

I cant help but imagine it would've been exactly like Arnold Freeze but without any of the charm.

If I'm not mistaken Arkham Knight also incorporated concepts from the unreleased fifth movie, with the Scarecrow's hallucations bringing Joker back and all

>Patrick Stewart and Anthony Hopkins as Mr.Freeze
They would have been completely miscast in the movie but, fuck, they would have been perfect for playing a more serious version of Freeze

The Tom Mankiewicz script based on the Englehart run with Joe Dante as director and Peter O'Toole as the Penguin sounds amazing.

>Tom Mankiewicz's script.

It was a beautiful disaster.

>Bruce Wayne witnesses his parents, Thomas and Martha Wayne, being murdered by Joe Chill, who is later killed by his boss, the Joker, who had been hired by corrupt businessman Rupert Thorne to eliminate Thomas, Thorne's rival for the post of Head of the City Council. Bruce becomes a billionaire after investing in McDonald's and returns to Gotham to fight crime as Batman, with help from Alfred Pennyworth and Commissioner David Gordon.

>Bruce falls in love with Thorne's secretary, Silver St. Cloud, who finds out his secret identity; and fights the Joker and the Penguin, another mobster hired by Thorne to eliminate him. The Joker frames Batman of a series of crimes, including the murder of the Mayor, who is replaced by Thorne. One of the attacks results in the deaths of the Flying Graysons, and Bruce adopts their son, young acrobat Dick Grayson, who also finds out his secret identity and becomes his sidekick, Robin.

>Batman and Robin learn that Silver has been kidnapped by the Joker and follow her to a museum, where they defeat the Joker and his men. However, Silver sacrifices herself to protect Batman from Thorne, who is killed by Batman. Batman and Robin become partners and continue to fight crime in Gotham.

>Highlights of the script include Bruce awkwardly losing his virginity to a drunk socialite at a college party, an over-the-top chase scene between Batman and the Penguin's goons, sporting jetpacks and laser umbrellas, featuring a Batmobile with a force field, a submarine mode and flight mode.

>The climax takes place at the Museum of Natural History, which is filled with giant writing objects. Batman and Robin fight the Joker's goons in the onomatopeia room, surrounded by "POWS" and "BAMS", and Batman kills Thorne by throwing him into a giant pencil sharpener, while screaming "May God damn your soul, Rupert Thorne!". Also there's a running gag of Gordon mistaking Batman for a transexual.

>The climax takes place at the Museum of Natural History, which is filled with giant writing objects. Batman and Robin fight the Joker's goons in the onomatopeia room, surrounded by "POWS" and "BAMS",

MORRISON YOU THIEF

>Also there's a running gag of Gordon mistaking Batman for a transexual.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

This movie sounds so Bronze Age. I love it.

Well, once you know the details, it was fucking horrible. But the basic premise was good.

>Bowie turned down the role in favor of Twin Peaks.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT JUDY.

>Schumacher was a life-long comic book fan before signing in and originally wanted to do a film version of Year One.

That is a lie.

He really did say he wanted to do Year One. He went campy because that's more like what WB wanted after parents snubbed Returns for being too dark.

I'm going to dump some Batman TAS trivia too while I'm at it

Most of the episodes that were originally intended to be made never came to pass. Some of these concepts include:
>Hugo Strange wiping Batman, Robin, and Alfred's memories of their crime fighting ways
>An Alice in Wonderland parody where Mad Hatter brainwashes several citizens of Gotham, including Batman
>Robin being forced to become more responsible and save Batman's life as Poison Ivy's toxin slowly kills him.
>An episode titled "The Life Of A Gun" which had been written by Tom Ruegger was to be about Batman finding a gun that had been used in a robbery and tracing it's history, we were to have been given a life cycle of the gun from it's creation to the day it was sold and used in the robbery, and in the end it was to have been melted down and made into a tombstone
>an episode featuring Nocturna, involving Batman becoming a vampire and craving human blood.
>David Wise wrote an episode which got killed for being "too dark" where Batman gets ambushed by a paramilitary group and gets hit with a gas that turns him psychotic, resulting in Robin needing to help him by going to the Joker. The climax would feature Batman facing all the villains in an abandoned sports stadium and revealing a bomb strapped to his chest and taunting the villains to come and get him.
>One of the early concepts includes an episode that has a similar premise to Almost Got Im, only it involved a trio of cops sharing stories on Batman. This episode was supposedly to heavily feature Renee Montoya.
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>Originally, Penguin was supposed to look like his comic version, and his relationship with his mother would have been adapted into the show. The release of Batman Returns made the writers change their design, and Penguin's family never appeared. Additionally, the crew originally had concepts for a Penguin and Mr.Freeze team-up

Also don't forget the Dream & Death episode by Dini as shown in the Dark Night book

>An episode titled "The Life Of A Gun" which had been written by Tom Ruegger was to be about Batman finding a gun that had been used in a robbery and tracing it's history, we were to have been given a life cycle of the gun from it's creation to the day it was sold and used in the robbery, and in the end it was to have been melted down and made into a tombstone

This sounds like another Eisner Spirit homage.

>Batman finding a gun that had been used in a robbery and tracing it's history, we were to have been given a life cycle of the gun from it's creation to the day it was sold and used in the robbery

That sounds like it could have been genuinely interesting.

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And that's it, it could have been interesting to see it. Shame it didn't happen

>the coen brothers reportedly turned down the chance to make the film, because they didn't want to do a film that wasn't theirs.

oooooooOOOOoooopooooo FUCK

>Tim Curry was originally slated to play Joker, but he was let go due to the physical strain his Joker voice put on his throat and due to reportedly being too scary

>Al Pacino was offered the role of Two-Face

>Catwoman was supposed to have an extended role partially because of Batman Returns, but many of the episodes written for her, including one involving Black Canary, never came to pass

>In Joker's Favor, the writers thought that having the Joker jump out of the cake himself would be silly (even though that's how it actually went in the final draft) so they designed a perky female henchman with the intention of her doing that job. Thus, Harley Quinn was born

>Mr.Freeze was originally not intended to be a sympathetic character, and his origin episode would be a jewelry heist. Leonard Nimoy and Anthony Hopkins were offered the role of Mr.Freeze, but turned it down.

>There were talks of featuring The Sandman in an episode back in '93, but the Vertigo/DC divide came into play and cursed it forever. Additionally, Doctor Destiny was once considered for an episode.

>Batman: Mask of the Phantasm was originally going to be the end of the series, which is why Joker seemingly dies at the end

>Among the characters who were supposed to be introduced to the show are: Gentleman Ghost. Max Shreck (who would later be Roland Daggett), Black Mask (voiced by James Earl Jones), Calendar Man, Cavalier (voiced by Tim Curry), Bronze Tiger, Dr. Tzin-Tzin, and Deadshot

>Additionally, Bruce Timm once stated that, although the crew had no intention of using Killer Moth in the series, he remarked "The only way we'll use him is if we can get Dan Akroyd to do the voice and have him running around screaming, 'Aaah! I'm a bug! I'm a bug!' "

>Sean Young, still bitter over losing the role of Vicki Vale, lobbied hard to secure the role as Catwoman, even going as far as to confront a production office wearing a homemade Catwoman costume, with disastrous results.

this really stretches what's believable about these things

Sean Young is nuts user. She got arrested a few years ago for punching a security who wouldn't let her into the Governor's Ball after the Oscars because she wasn't invited.

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You underestimate just how desperate actresses were to be Catwoman at that time
Here's a sauce if you don't believe me.
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>Bruce becomes a billionaire after investing in McDonald's
>Also there's a running gag of Gordon mistaking Batman for a transexual.

I cant fucking breathe

Thats literally true though. Its a well known Hollywood story.

>>An episode titled "The Life Of A Gun" which had been written by Tom Ruegger was to be about Batman finding a gun that had been used in a robbery and tracing it's history, we were to have been given a life cycle of the gun from it's creation to the day it was sold and used in the robbery, and in the end it was to have been melted down and made into a tombstone

Damn. That one sounds like a classic Batman episode in the making. Shame it never came to be.

The original Freeze plan was reused for The Batman, it seems.

Or maybe just literally like half of Freeze's appearance before TAS but that would require that you actually read comics.

>>David Cronenberg was also offered a chance to direct but declined.

What

>> Bret Hart

At the time it was so well known that Tiny Toons even made a reference to that.

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Start at 3:43

I feel bad for Schumacher

I never watched Tiny Toons, this is pretty much just an Animaniacs segment. Was the whole show like this?

Kind of. Especially since a lot of the people who worked on it went on to do Animaniacs.

I read that issue. Pretty good.

>One of the early concepts includes an episode that has a similar premise to Almost Got Im, only it involved a trio of cops sharing stories on Batman. This episode was supposedly to heavily feature Renee Montoya.
But that was an episode, it was Montana and a rookie cop.

It's definitely taking its cues from Bronze Age; Miller's Dark Knight wasn't published yet so all they had to go on was the TV show, Englehart's run and O'Neil's stuff and whatever else was out at that time.

>Reitman wanted to cast Bill Murray as Batman and Eddie Murphy as Robin.

Oh man I'm trying to imagine Murray and Murphy performing the stuff mentioned in

If you could get the Coen brothers to direct one comic book movie, what would it be?

Hard Mode: No Watchmen.

>Because that man scares the hell out of me.
He's scarier than Batman desu.

>we could be living in a world where there is an Batman 89 movie starring Bill Murray and Eddie Murphy as Batman and Robin fighting Tim Curry as Joker with a soundtrack by Michael Jackson
If that isn't the most 80s thing ever I don't now what is

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That's really a tough one. The Coens have a pretty unique style and it's completely at odds with bombastic, broad, operatic, hero driven, cape comics.

Maybe something pulpy and grounded like Sandman Mystery Theater or a Shadow adaptation.

About Korra's Book 2.

>Mir's staff is getting ragged on and wants more money for their efforts.
>Book 1 is $200,000 a episode, cheaper then the first Avatar due to Bryke learning everything they needed to know from the first show, no plane trips to China and no over priced celebrities like Mako & Mark Hamill
>Mir stops doing Korra to do Boondocks season 4.
>Brykes tries to find a replacement for Mir.
>They first tried Trigger but they rejected Korra because they wanted their first TV show to be their first (Kill La Kill) but as special thanks they named KLK's Mako after Korra's Mako.
>Second was TMS of which Kenji Hachizaki was supposed to be the chief director, TMS ended up rejecting it because of the shipping that went on in the show. This is also why Kazuhide Tomogana & Atsuko Tanaka were on Aikatsu, they were supposed to do Korra.
>Pierrot ended up being the 3rd studio Bryke picked but because Pierrot did not want to have anything to do with this most of the work was outsourced to Magic Bus & Actas which is why Pierrot's episodes are so lousy and looking like if they replaced Mir with Akom, because Magic Bus is the Akom of Japan.
>However, the episode count was always intended due to Mir set to do the easier episode when Pierrot was set to do the harder episode but because Mir did a better job they were used as the sole studio for Book 3.
>Also, Pierrot's episodes were $800,000 per episode due to Japanese animators getting payed more then their Korean counter parts; Mir's episodes with in Books 2 & 3 were $300,000 per episode.
>However by Book 4 the budget was cut to $90,000 a episode leaving Mir to ditch the episodes to Nam & NORTH Korea due to still wanted to get payed actual money.

At best I can see them doing a Sandman adaptation. But even then it involves a fantasy element that's too detached from what they usually do.

I agree with Sandman Mystery Theater, and while I would love to see a Shadow adaptation at the hands of masterclass filmmakers like them, I don't think it matches their style.
There was one man who could have brought to us the perfect Shadow movie, and it was Orson Welles. Unfortunately, he never got to make it, Hollywood drove his chances to the ground, and now he's dead.

I don't see what this has to do with the thread.

Bowie would have made a great Joker

Wasnt it Batman Thriumphant kid?

This threads are mostly recycled 101 facts everyone knows with things changed here and there and lies mixed in.

SAGE.

It was called Triumphant later in development IIRC

>Sam Raimi lobbied to be the director before Schumacher was hired.

I'm unsure how to feel about this, we might have never gotten darkman or Spider man had he done this

TMS could of done Korra instead of Pierrot during Mir's breakdown.

why do they hate him? nigga got an oscar when it mattered.

Batman 89 was dark, parents are dumb af sometimes

Seconding the Shadow with the tone of & suspense of No Country for Old Men.

A Contract With God, if we're going full cape though I think they could do a good job with an Animal Man adaptation based off of the Morrison Run.

Come on he sucks

A 5 second google search would tell you there were several names in development.
Batman Triumphant was just one of them. It's not like it matters because the movie wasn't even made.

I wanted that Aronofsky and Frank Miller Batman movie. Characterfags would've screamed autistically like always, but Aronofsky is pure genius. I always wanted a capeshit character driven movie by him.

Tiny Toons borrowed more liberally from Looney Toons with expy characters directly lifted from their LT counterparts (compared to Animaniacs' cast being inspired by WB animation as a whole rather than make kid clones) and had the arguably odious distinction of an elementary/high school as the backdrop. The show was...roughly speaking more of an Animaniacs prototype with training wheels on that didn't push the boundaries of zany comedy with thinly veiled adult jokes here and there but it was still pretty funny.

Problem is that with TT the cast is always going to be in the shadow of the original LT character. Buster Bunny is no Bugs. Plucky isn't as good as Daffy, etc. Animaniacs was able to stand on its own.

they would of done a perfect Spirit

Imagine if Cronenberg directed a Batman movie with Clayface as the villain