How in the fuck was this possible in 2002? I just watched this on bluray and its been 6 years since I have seen it...

How in the fuck was this possible in 2002? I just watched this on bluray and its been 6 years since I have seen it. WHAT THE FUCK

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Today, we have the ability to make cgi indistinguishable from real life. But even Disney won’t spend the cash

>rings of power. not even once

I belueve this. If this was done in 2002 when Pentium 4s and 3dFX gpus were still a thing, then what the fuck are we missing out on?

it was shit then and it's shit now, pleb

I hate plebbit infestation. Guess what hipster faggot, you were a fag then and a fag now

who will stop these rabid contrarians?

Nu/pol/

Yup 100% plebbit user

It was a different time

Feels like cgi has went down in quality 2bh

Jackson says Gollum's cg is enhanced in dark scenes but doesn't look as good in daytime lighting. I don't get what he's saying at all.

Yeah compare The Hobbit and LOTR.

The hobbit feels like a video game cutscene when LOTR feels organic and natural to the world and film.

Really says more when Gollum seems the same from 2002 as it were in 2013

Gollum looks fantastic in day time in Two towers... Usually in unsaturated scenes but still

They had a lot more time to polish and work on LOTR movies while the hobbit had to be rushed a bit.

People love giving shit to Peter Jackson for the hobbit movies but i enjoyed them a lot, its not like the previous movies but its good too.

Hobbit movies were fine 'til the last one.

>DUDE THE HOBBIT SUCKS BECAUSE OF TIME CONSTRUCTION MAAAAAAAAAAN ITS THE TIME MAAAAAAAAAAN
HOLY FUCKING SHIT REDDlT

>Hobbit movies were fine 'til the second half of the second one
ftfy

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>ban anyone who says the killing of a sacred deer was a good movie
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>ban people who get their opinions from YouTube movie review channels
>ban anyone who says that one or more of the hobbit movies was good

If Jackson had his preptime we would have gotten two very acceptable 7/10 movies

Dont get me wrong, I agree the Hobbit films are fantastic. But the strong current/ waterfall scene was just.. Really really bad.

But as always Peter Jackson is a god at extended cuts of films and I love the hobbit extended along with the 4 hour cuts of LOTR so much

mod pls ban this person :)

Interesting. I watched this last night too, the four hour extended cut, and I now see why people rate it the worst of the four. The aesthetic just isn't there compared to Fellowship.

Fuck off reddit

First of all its 3hr and 40m long

Second Two Towers is not the worst of the trilogy, none of them are better than the other. They are equal in films in terms of quality.

You fucking retard

>two very acceptable 7/10 movies
Who fucking talks like this
>I got two very actable hours of watching my wife get creampied

This is legitimately a reddit user

My wife is black retard

As opposed to three 4/10 pieces of shit

Diablo 2 aged like shit

true artistry

This pic is from the first Hobbit.
youtube.com/watch?v=E5rhgSylpH8

>stating facts makes you reddit
Its like if you don't get the word reddit, you just use it to hide your newfaggotry.

Oh well

i like the last one.

i think the issue isn't the cgi, its the quality of the rest of the film

the film is shot in such high def, that anything even slightly less that perfect to life stands out like a sore thumb

in original lotr the video quality was good, not perfect, so golem blended in better. imperfection doesn't stand out in an imperfect film

t. born after 1997

So I guess you won’t deny the fact that you’re from reddit?

You are not alone. I like Desolation aswell. The first one was way to weak. But I recommend the extended cuts 2bh

LOTR is in bluray and looks beautiful without a single blemish though.

>I like taking huge amounts of cock in my ass while I browse reddit

tfw extended cuts

youtube.com/watch?v=IgqIh5F_rqE

Sup Forums has been so totally invaded by reddit that it’s ok to like the hobbit

My wife is black actually sooo

CGI has become technically better but worse in terms of how its utilised.

Look at this scene and compare it to the Balrog webm posted earlier. The CGI is way better, it's fantastic, almost photorealistic, but look at how the scene is color graded. Dull, flat, grey colours in an underground cavern - it should be dark mostly, completely covered in shadows punctuated by a few flickers of bright light. But since VFX artists don't want to put a lot of effort into something and then have people not be able to see it all, you get repulsive, flat, unnatural lighting.

I guarantee you could make the CGI in these movies look way better just by playing with the contrast and saturation a bit.

You lack self-awareness.

Not saying its ok i said i liked it.

For example, look at this comparison Rob Ager did with The Thing prequel. The first is the scene as it's shown in the film, the second is just with the brightness and contrast fiddled around with.

You can make hokey CGI look immediately better just by making the scene darker, but hack CGI artists don't want to hide their work in any way

Thats a great scene kek

Clearly sarcasm. Look at the fucking spacing

shit movies for soy addled manchildren

It is a great scene, up 'til wilhelm

As a graphic designer/getting into Cinema4D rendering I agree with this and completely believe that most cg can be fixed in coloring and fine tuning

>cgi is shit!
>cgi used to be better!
>cgi used to be worse!
>cgi is too expensive!
The truth is, CGI requires artistry just like every part of the film making process. However, there has been a stigma in the industry for a long time that it somehow does not. This has lead studios to outsource it, in order to do it cheaper. This takes it out of the hands of the head creatives, who get stuck with whatever the outsourcers shit out. The thing is, the only reason cgi is so expensive is because of the intense competition that takes place between studios. The fact of the matter is that 9/10 productions that use in-house cg artists output better AND cheaper products that expensive outsourced ones.
>t. Line Producer

>we are legion
Why do people keep putting this line in their movies?

I should also add that cgi is a relatively new and somewhat unintuitive tool for directors to use so this furthers the desire by some to "let the studios handle it" or means it's simply implemented wrong and looks bad because of it
David Fincher is a director who is well trained in using CGI as a tool.

how so?

name 2

...

>I guarantee you could make the CGI in these movies look way better just by playing with the contrast and saturation a bit.

Something like this?

For fuck sakes what were they thinking

This just makes me mad

I still see no problem with this

>look at this amazing underground city I designed. LOOK AT IT!

The CGI in the hobbit movies has this cheap tv sitcom special effects feel to it.

Like the LOTR trilogy said "I want to make it look good", while the Hobbit trilogy only said "I want to make it". Just film it, CGI it and sell it, it's a product to sell not an art to craft.

Mfw after using Tsmuxgui for hours my LOTR extended cut is now out of sync audio and im going to kill A FUCKING NIGGER FOR THIS REEEEEEE

Yeah, but it's retardedly expensive if I'm not mistaken. Blizzards WoW cinematics are so close to the verge of realism now, but cost literally hundreds of millions to animate and render.

As discussed earlier in the thread basically every major CGI scene in movies nowadays has very uniform lighting because the artists want to show off every inch of these amazing creatures and effects and environments they've painstakingly created. CGI was still in relative infancy when the original movies were made so I'm assuming the VFX artists sort of knew their place.

This actually gets way worse as the Hobbit movies go on. In the first one there were some parts where they showed a little restraint but there was still something off about the lighting. By the third movie everything is just a dull, monotone grey where everything is doused in this hideous bloom effect and there are basically no shadows.

everything else about the movie is kino enough that you don't notice the atrocious cgi. it's really bad.

this.

>that compositing
OHHHHHH HO HO NO NO NO NO NO

To fully illustrate how fucking atrociously botched the Hobbit was as a project, I present to you this comparison of two stills, two seconds apart.

As you can see from the timestamps, I'm not making this up. This isn't a scene from the trailer and a scene from the finished movie. They're both from the movie. These two screengrabs are literally two seconds apart from one another.

If you have a copy of the movie you can see this for yourself.

It utterly floored me the first time I noticed it. It's like texture pop-in in a video game.

Weta the group that did the effects were great. They also do the effects on the planet of the apes movies

This can't be real

>when you accidentally leave in a placeholder model
Fuck I'm joking but that could actually be what happened

The use of practical effects instead of CGI?
New movies look like fucking video games, what made LotR look so good was the fact that they never used CGI

Seeing that Pixar short Piper fucking blew my mind. If it wasn't for the bird doing cartoonish shit there'd be no way of telling if it was real or not.

I dont see the problem. Help me out

Look at Bilbo

Look at the gold

Look at Smaug

>>that compositing
>OHHHHHH HO HO NO NO NO NO NO

WTF HE LOOKS LIKE HE IS CLIPPING THROUGH THE MODEL

The bottom looks better sir

In the first image everything is fucked up
- Smaug isnt his usual self, it's is a lower-poly placeholder model that is missing a lot of the detail
- They've composited Bilbo into the scene really badly. For some reason the footage is in a very low resolution and you can even see the edges that they've forgotten to crop out.
- the gold is all CGI

In the second image
- Smaug looks great
- Martin Freeman is actually in the scene
- the gold is real

did they really use the wilhelm scream at the end?

Always

Wilhelm is there

Fellowship > Two Towers >>>> Return
Return is bad because it didn't adapt the Scouring of the Shire

Now you remember that Gopro shot in the barrel ride scene

Blaming CGI is lazy
You only notice CGI when it's bad

No, you notice it whenever it's used. It's fucking fake plastic artificial crap. It's a cake that's all frosting.

The only time CGI is good is when it's blended in with practical FX and takes up some of the slack. Jurassic Park did this seamlessly.

It sucks, but the Scouring just could not work in a movie.

>Sup Forums has more in depth conversations than /lit/

really gets the noggin a joggin

>implying a video game studio spends hundreds of millions for a cinematic.
yes, because a video game studio spends 10x the amount of money on a 4 minute cinematic than they do on the actual game.

its expensive yes, but nowhere near as expensive as you're thinking

wow that scene did not age well. those eyes look totally wrong.

>It's fucking fake plastic artificial crap
Survivorship bias. Of course you wouldn't be able to call it out if it was done well

>50 posts consisting of "genre trash gtfo"

Gotta love it.

It butchers the book 100%.

You find out that sam and frodo are alive at the very beginning.

I think what the user means is stuff like Star Wars The Old Republic CG scenes that are like Mini skits that have insane animation, lighting, and voice work into them that have 0 to do with the shitty game (cry swtor babies) but look like they cost a few million more than the game itself

This image is from the Hobbit... I shit you not. The lotr one looks WAYY better including the eyes

>it was a practical effect user

Muh book fag detected

Go away and never come back

There are masters of cgi like there are masters of oil painting. Weta in the 2000s was well staffed with a lot of talent. Same thing happened with Jurassic Park 1, when the stars align a talented team can do a lot.

>reading is for dumbies
Are you dumb enough to answer a rhetorical question?

Two Towers is the worst one because it has the most battle scenes

Fellowship of the Ring is the only one with a proper structure that can work as a standalone movie

Did you know they were going to do an Evangelion movie?