These films are riddled with plotholes. Like, why didn't they just fly to Mordor?

These films are riddled with plotholes. Like, why didn't they just fly to Mordor?

Why didn't Sam fuck Frodo?

Why doesn't op just stop being a massive faggot?

The world was young, the mountains green,
No stain yet on the Moon was seen,
No words were laid on stream or stone,
When Durin woke and walked alone.
He named the nameless hills and dells;
He drank from yet untasted wells;
He stooped and looked in Mirrormere,
And saw a crown of stars appear,
As gems upon a silver thread,
Above the shadow of his head.

The world was fair, the mountains tall,
In Elder Days before the fall
Of mighty kings in Nargothrond
And Gondolin, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away:
The world was fair in Durin's Day.

A king he was on carven throne
In many-pillared halls of stone
With golden roof and silver floor,
And runes of power upon the door.
The light of sun and star and moon
In shining lamps of crystal hewn
Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
There shone for ever fair and bright.

There hammer on the anvil smote,
There chisel clove, and graver wrote;
There forged was blade, and bound was hilt;
The delver mined, the mason built.
There beryl, pearl, and opal pale,
And metal wrought like fishes' mail,
Buckler and corslet, axe and sword,
And shining spears were laid in hoard.

Unwearied then were Durin's folk;
Beneath the mountains music woke:
The harpers harped, the minstrels sang,
And at the gates the trumpets rang.

The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dum.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

Why didn't the Fellowship just hyperspace ram Barad-dur?

that is pretty badly written, i must say

Tolkien was such a hack jesus christ

Only plebs dislike Tolkien's prose/poetry

Tolkien didn't know how to write, that's why his books are such a chore to go through.

It’s shit writing. Ask any qualified scholar and they’ll tell you the same.

It’s fine to like Tolkien and enjoy his work but to consider him a good writer is a whole other matter. Someone like Charles dickens makes Tolkien look like an amateur.

You'd think with how much time&effort Tolkien put into his lore, it wouldn't be so easy to break, but Disney did it

didn't this same argument happen 2 days ago in the same thread? we get it, you're a fan of dickens

Lol why didn't Gimli just smash the ring with his axe

Why is it shit writing?

Just look at it!

Did you even watch the movies?

>Gimli hits it with an axe
>doesn't work
>"lol don't bother trying again"
They should have had a contest like with Excalibur - invite everyone who cares to try and give them a chance to break the ring.

Elrond was probably a secret Sauron supporter. Why else would he try to send them on some meme quest instead of looking for a more practical solution.

Well it's not like they could just throw it away, the Dark Lord would just find it again no matter how long it takes.

Frodo was the master and Sam was the servant, if any fucking was going on, it was Frodo fucking Sam.

Because there's a giant demonic eye overlooking all of Mordor with hordes of dragons and an army of millions.

In that vast shadow once of yore
Fingolfin stood: his shield he bore
with field of heaven's blue and star
of crystal shining pale afar.
In overmastering wrath and hate
desperate he smote upon that gate,
the Gnomish king, there standing lone,
while endless fortresses of stone
engulfed the thin clear ringing keen
of silver horn on baldric green.
His hopeless challenge dauntless cried
Fingolfin there: 'Come, open wide,
dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!
Come forth, whom earth and heaven abhors!
Come forth, O monstrous craven lord,
and fight with thine own hand and sword,
thou wielder of hosts of banded thralls,
thou tyrant leaguered with strong walls,
thou foe of Gods and elvish race!
I wait thee here. Come! Show thy face!'

Then Morgoth came. For the last time
in those great wars he dared to climb
from subterranean throne profound,
the rumour of his feet a sound
of rumbling earthquake underground.
Black-armoured, towering, iron-crowned
he issued forth; his mighty shield
a vast unblazoned sable field
with shadow like a thundercloud;
and o'er the gleaming king it bowed,
as huge aloft like mace he hurled
that hammer of the underworld,
Grond. Clanging to ground it tumbled
down like a thunder-bolt, and crumbled
the rocks beneath it; smoke up-started,
a pit yawned, and a fire darted.

>dragons
the absolute state of this board

Fingolfin like a shooting light
beneath a cloud, a stab of white,
sprang then aside, and Ringil drew
like ice that gleameth cold and blue,
his sword devised of elvish skill
to pierce the flesh with deadly chill.
With seven wounds it rent his foe,
and seven mighty cries of woe
rang in the mountains, and the earth quook,
and Angband's trembling armies shook.
Yet Orcs would after laughing tell
of the duel at the gates of hell;
though elvish song thereof was made
ere this but one — when sad was laid
the mighty king in barrow high,
and Thorndor, 2 Eagle of the sky,
the dreadful tidings brought and told
to mourning Elfinesse of old.
Thrice was Fingolfin with great blows
to his knees beaten, thrice he rose
still leaping up beneath the cloud
aloft to hold star-shining, proud,
his stricken shield, his sundered helm,
that dark nor might could overwhelm
till all the earth was burst and rent
in pits about him. He was spent.
His feet stumbled. He fell to wreck
upon the ground, and on his neck
a foot like rooted hills was set,
and he was crushed — not conquered yet;
one last despairing stroke he gave:
the mighty foot pale Ringil clave
about the heel, and black the blood
gushed as from smoking fount in flood.
Halt goes for ever from that stroke
great Morgoth; but the king he broke,
and would have hewn and mangled thrown
to wolves devouring. Lo! from throne
that Manwë bade him build on high,
on peak unscaled beneath the sky,

Morgoth to watch, now down there swooped
Thorndor the King of Eagles, stooped,
and rending beak of gold he smote
in Bauglir's face, then up did float
on pinions thirty fathoms wide
bearing away, though loud they cried,
the mighty corse, 3 the Elven-king;
and where the mountains make a ring
far to the south about that plain
where after Gondolin did reign,
embattled city, at great height
upon a dizzy snowcap white
in mounded cairn the mighty dead
he laid upon the mountain's head.
Never Orc nor demon after dared
that pass to climb, o'er which there stared
Fingolfin's high and holy tomb,
till Gondolin's appointed doom.

Thus Bauglir earned the furrowed scar
that his dark countenance doth mar,
and thus his limping gait he gained;
but afterward profound he reigned
darkling upon his hidden throne;
and thunderous paced his halls of stone,
slow building there his vast design
the world in thraldom to confine.

Anyone else saddened by how JRR treated CS Lewis? They seemed to have been best of friends and then Tolkien spergs our because Lewis didn’t treat Chronicles of Narnia with utmost seriousness.

>REEEEEE FATHER CHRISTMAS SHOULDN’T BE IN CHILDREN’S BOOKS YOU’RE MISMATCHING THINGS

And for sure Narnia pales in comparison to LOTR, but Narnia is children’s books he wasn’t trying to rival Tolkien.

That's not a plot hole. Watch the movie. Theyd be spotted in a second by the eye if they flew there. Its in the movie. Also look up the definition of a plot hole.

The simple answer is the eagles would have taken the ring. Its actually that simple.

C s Lewis was complete and utter shit you fucking Nu/pol/ imbecilic nigger

Why didn't they just dig to Mt. Doom?

>Narnia is children’s books he wasn’t trying to rival Tolkien
That first book tho.

What are you talking about, hes fantastic for children with autism.

>Ask any qualified scholar
ok lol

Why didn't Elrond just push Isildur into Mt. Doom?

Is that why they keep his works on display in oxford and not Charles dickens?

>DUDE EVERYONE HAS AUTISM ITS LELLELELELEKELEKEEEKEKEKELELELELE BASEDNESSNASEDEROSITY MADE BASEDNESS
oh my sweet reddit

Newfag, trollfag, or underagefag?

They're such a chore that they're a major success. Makes sense.

Probably cause men were FAR more powerful than elves at this point in history, knowing Elrond he would tell the truth and say he killed him. It would be constant war.

chill bro, its designed for kids

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Why didn't Gandalf make an identical looking ring and Frodo just throw it at the nearest nazgul he sees?

im quiet the popular chap irl thank you very much

He could have jumped in after to prevent any possible scandal, and for punishment.

desu i think the mountain would have exploded and killed them both anyway. Fucking elrond.

fingolfin was the shit but whats with the elves and running head first into combat? feanor would have survived if he didnt go with only a few.

They're fucking dragons you sperg.

>Sup Forums doesn't even know what a dragon is

their not, they are fell beasts.

smaug was the last of the great drakes

A fell beast is a dragon. I'm not listening to any nerd semantics.

they're beasts in the shape of monstrous birds, not dragons at all

You people are virgins. Why should anyone listen to you when you've never touched a boob?

one second, i got a qualified scholar on the line

better bring in the youtube academics

The first books were clearly going for something more akin to Tolkien than what it became later.

Ive got a discord server full of qualified academics

I’ve got a dick full of hot cum that’s just aching to be shot into your sweet man hole

That's sweet of you to say but if you saw me you'd change your mind, I promise

How did Grand Elf get his staff back after jumping from sauromans tower onto the eagle?

Dd

what would happen if Frodo jammed his little hobbit cock into the ring?

sauron would say "im not touching that" and the war of the ring would be over.

F