Mfw Disney forgot that Luke is supposed to be blond

>Mfw Disney forgot that Luke is supposed to be blond

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>mfw Disney forgot that Han Solo was a smuggler of aphrodisiac giraffe meat

Why is he younger as force-projection?
Why he isn't using his green lightsaber?

Rien already clarified why. it was to bait kylo because the last time he saw luke was when he was young at at the academy

>blond
too nazi like

uhh, uhh, it's umm the force projection not being perfect!

That's stupid, that's Hayden ghost in RoTJ levels of stupid.

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Its because thats how he looked when he last felt like a Jedi. Its a psychic projection so its based on his self image.

But why lightsaber ain't green then? Anyway, he's not only wanted to kill Ben for nothing earlier but also reminded him about that as bait, which probably pushed him to dark side once again. True jedi way, right?

Rian is a fucking moron

he wasn't even blonde in rotj faggot

>if you strike me down in anger ill always be with you
Luke basically confirmed hes coming back as a force ghost.

again maximum bait. kylo was autistic about having his grandfathers lightsaber

how did he get into the academy, being an abandoned gipsy human in a wookie planet?

this is the power of blue milk

Yoda lit a tree on fire and hit luke in the head with his staff, so apparently force ghosts are legit pieces on the board now. Maybe the book worms know what the real story with this shit is. Maybe IX can be Yoda just destroying everything with a wink.

Wouldnt it have been better if Luke had actually been there?
He eventually could have Obi-Wan'd Kylo by letting him strike him down, turning into The Force. At least then, it would have been a great throwback, fans would be excited to see Force Ghost Luke and, importantly, they wouldnt have had to trick poor Mark into thinking Luke wasnt dead but also assure him of Lukes continuing presence in the story.

how is that not a tip-off to kylo that it's just a projection? the fact that luke didn't age a year apparently?

Emperor Force Ghost Yoda would be legitimately an interesting twist though desu

But he just blew up his grandfather's lightsaber, remember?

of course it would have. i dont know why they chose the path they did but the whole movie's theme for me was "get over it fanboy"

How much more assurance do we need that he's coming back? It's blatant.

It is really that young? I only thought he was in a better shape and attitude, but didn't really thought he was actually younger.

I think its clear to everyone, including Hux and his soldiers, that Kylo is pretty unhinged by the time they land on Salt land

if you watch the scene again kylo looks perplexed when he tries to fight him. "why is this fucker doing gymnastics" Luke was trolling him he knew kylo wanted nothing more than to fight and kill him.

Luke has brown, maybe slightly bleached hair in all of them. They should have had him not shampoo because desert.

>but didn't really thought
kill yourself faggot

yeah i know i didn't write the fucking movie. Kylo was probably so fixated on killing luke he didn't care.

Blonde haired people tend to get darker hair as they grow older.

Is it though?

"Hey Mark sorry I didnt actually listen to any of your ideas for Luke's backstory. Sorry I killed Luke fucking Skywalker off without even actually telling you. Ill never do it again..... so you coming back for IX?"

this. Just the sight of luke brought out his full autism. espically that atat scene where he stomps his feet like a child. "MORE MORE MORE"

I mean, but that's jake skywalker

If you actually watch the original trilogy and see how shit it is, you'll see Luke is very much a brunette.

That and also with scene of him lifting his X-Wing from water or whatever with Yoda ghost beside him, kinda mirroring scene from ESB.

Pretty shitty bait, then.

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well he took the bait. so thats says a lot about kylo

This should have been the end credit image while "In the arms of an Angel" played.

>In memory of Lucas Starman

you forgot the part "here's your money".

Do you think actors only work on movies they love?

>I hate TFA becuase is an ep4 remake
>I hate TLJ because is not an ep5 remake

J-just re-watched the OT
youtube.com/watch?v=McUwVg6MfOk

>"I won't leave you here, I've got to save you..."
>"You already have, Luke."

Why is Disney s-so cruel, anons? Why can't they value those Shakespearean values established by hundreds of years of suffering and humility?

>and that sort of thing
lmao

Minority quotas

>that smile he gives him just before he dies
GOD DAMMIT

>Implying Mark Hamill isnt at all emotionally invested in the character
>Implying the idea of now being the only person from the OT wont seem depressing to him
>Implying that the death of Carrie Fisher wont have caused him to reflect on whether its worth going back if she wont be there

Hayden’s ghost is actually Kino, clown. In the actual original script it says what Darth Vader now turn back to Anakin was thinking as he started to die. He remembered a much younger version of himself with all the world in front of him and all the things he could accomplish. He remembered his real self. Poetry.

>implying he doesn't like having money

should have been podracing kid's ghost then

Because the blue lightsaber is the most important thing in the galaxy! Never mind that's it's canon that Anakin went through at least 3 of them, the lightsaber is such a central part of the story. Rey used it!

>get a chance to continue one of the greatest and culturally significant movie sagas in history
>all three main members of the original cast are ready to go
>a shitload of money, talented artists, lore, ideas from the EU at your disposal
>no reunion scene after 30 years
>Luke is a beta male on an island who acts as OOC as possible
>main character is some Mary Sue who can't act
>unnecessary crappy side stories
>totally ignoring the lore
>horrible plot with no logic or connection
>instead we got diversity quotas and some shipping with literally whos
>the Force is female
>thousands of books of EU traded for fart-fetish side stories and gay pilots herking and jerking
>no more games
Christ, are these corporations actually led by total idiots or are they deliberately pushing some agenda? I mean how can you fuck everything up this bad?

Kylo was knocked out. He didn't exactly see the light saber in pieces.

he was worth 6 million before he even signed on for the new movies.

>it's canon that Anakin went through at least 3 of them
canon in those books that aren't canon anymore?

Last time I checked, Attack of the Clones was canon

do you think that means he can get 6 millons anytime he wants? Also, do you think 6 millions mean you don't need any more money for the rest of your life?

they're called movies you dumb fuck

>I hate TFA because it is a bland remake
>I hate TLJ because it is a shit movie
FTFY

well, it shouldn't

TLJ is an episode 5 remake with Return of the Jedi elements

>I hate movies
FTFY

I mean he was well off before the new movies. he didn't need to do it for the money, an extra million is nice but it wasn't like he ever had to work again. his family would never go hungry.

What a waste of good digits.

Why aren't the people of Sup Forums in those positions?

Why are fucking retards writing this shit? Who approved ant of this?
Who sat there and said,
>Admiral Holdo is a pivotal character, if we can get her working...

you jelly?

No hollywood actor needs to do anything for money or their family go hungry. But money is always welcome

>Christ, are these corporations actually led by total idiots or are they deliberately pushing some agenda? I mean how can you fuck everything up this bad?
See people like pic related? 60 year old executives don't know that she is full of shit and should be disregarded. They think that she's a smart person that they can use for business advice (which they legitimately do need, you can be a genius at running companies and still end up destroyed if you don't know what you should be aiming towards), they follow her advice, and they end up pulling shit like TLJ.

There are probably Disney executives that really dislike TLJ, but they can't stop any of this shit because the penalty for being wrong is too severe.

If they're right and their advisers are wrong, they can blame their advisers and kick them out. If they're wrong (even if their advisers are wrong too) they will be kicked out. The cost of being wrong just once is so devastating that most executives simply shut up and take the money.

They missed the point of the saber too. It's that Rey's clairvoyance was meant to link her and Luke together, let her empathise with him or whatever.

Lol no, now it's just a stand-in for the fanbase 'let le past die xd' and it's broken.
Okay then.

Jelly about your digits perhaps, but not about your shit opinions

90's born queer kill yourself

>tfw we will never see a yellow or an orange lightsaber in a star wars movie ever

It comes to a point where you have to say, "Are we in the business for art? Or in the art of business?"

Ironically, there's a line from Walt Disney himself that sums this up.

It's like being a general. You could stick to your morals 24/7, but that would destroy your entire army and you would end up dooming your entire country to armageddon because the thought of letting a few divisions take the brunt of an entire offensive for a few weeks while you organize things for a defense was too much. At some point you're going to have to start thinking in terms of abstract numbers, not men with families. That leads to horrible outcomes, but it also leads to success.

This doesn't apply to Disney of course since they're sinking their aircraft carrier with dumb movie after dumb movie.

If this doesn't prove we're living in the darkest timeline, nothing does.

Say what you will about this film, but the idea of letting the past die, kill it if you have to is a fucking ballsy move to make by a franchise as big as Star Wars. And it's a necessary one.

I'd rather the series tries to go in new and different directions than doing the same thing that series usually do when they come back after a hiatus, which is fanwank that never lives up to what you loved before.

The Last Jedi is a story driven by character, not by plot, and this really angers people who just want to see lightsaber fights and ships blow up. You see this when people complain that hurr half the film is a slow moving chase between the star destroyer and rebel ship. or hurr Canto Bight didn't go anywhere.

It's all character moments, it's all world building. It's trying to take Star Wars somewhere new. You don't have to like it, I understand why people don't, but people who aren't engaging with the film as it is, but rather what they want it to be, and then getting angry that Luke didn't go super saiyan or whatever, baffle me.

A film Sup Forums likes gets analysed and discussed in minute detail (see BvS) a film Sup Forums hates doesn't get the same treatment, despite the fact that if they did, they might appreciate it more.

trump gives us all the kino we need
the movie industry is in a drought due to his kino hoarding of all thr freshest new ideas and toppest tier entertainment

>The Last Jedi is a story driven by character, not by plot, and this really angers people who just want to see lightsaber fights and ships blow up
The only relatively interesting character-driven story is Kylo's, the rest is badly written nonsensical garbage. Both plot and lore-wise.

I didn't wait 30+ years since Return of the Jedi and two years since The Force Awakens to see Luke do nothing but complain, see a flashback where he nearly kills a (sleeping, defenseless) teenager for no real reason, and then kill himself.

Should Luke have died? Sure, Mark Hamill's not getting any younger. But Luke is the star, the main hero of the franchise. Even if Rey is being handed the torch for the next generation, Luke should have gone out in a blaze of glory, and in Episode 9, the finale of the trilogy.

Should Luke have screwed up Ben's training? Sure, that's a good idea. Luke's not perfect. He's only human. But give the flashback some time to actually show us Luke training Ben and where he went wrong. Maybe show Luke high on his own legend while Ben doesn't really want to be there but has to be because his uncle is the almighty Luke Skywalker and comes to resent him and his parents for making him train with Luke in the first place. Don't just give us 30 seconds of "I walked into his tent at 2:00 AM, sensed something, and decided to kill my sister's child."

Like, holy shit, say Luke actually went through with it. What the fuck was he going to tell Han and Leia? "Had to, trust me, Jedi business, very important"?

The idea is fine, but after Force Awakens? Is that really what the trilogy was leading into?
It wasn't, they just wrote it like that to be subversive and deconstructive in the wake of VIII.

VIII gets blasted because it's a legitimately bad movie. The whole SJW thing is icing.

They say let the past die, but we're still keeping lightsabers and the Force and the Jedi and the texts.
Let the past die but it's not Hoth, it's salt, there's no variance in anything design wise expect for Gorilla AT-ATs.

The past is what something is built upon.

It would look like piss.

"Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to.

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Come see the Han Solo prequel movie!"

Luke should have died in the NEXT one, the conclusion of the new trilogy, not in the middle. Either kill him in the first one like Obi Wan or in the last one like Vader, not in the middle one, wtf movie.

>I didn't wait 30+ years since Return of the Jedi and two years since The Force Awakens to see Luke do nothing but complain, see a flashback where he nearly kills a (sleeping, defenseless) teenager for no real reason, and then kill himself.
I don't know why but this is really funny.

thats a good thing

Technically there were a couple in Attack of the Clones.

Wait, I've figured it out.

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kill yourself

If you strike me down in anger I'll always be with you. Just like your father.

Let's be honest, this whole trilogy should have just been one movie.

You tie everything up, you can do what yo want with Luke and Han and then go, do your own thing. Now they're stuck for three films.

The end of Episode VII should have been Luke passing on to Rey. That's it.

Canto Bight deals with the opposite of Luke on the farm in Tatooine wanting to join the rebellion.

It deals with rich people who don't have any real stakes in the titular Star War using both sides to get richer and richer.

Broom boy reaffirms the idea that you don't have to be from a specific bloodline to be special. It's a repudiation to Kylos obsession with his Grandfather.

You might think that they're poorly written (I think Canto Bight is incredibly poorly written) but it expands the universe and adds more interesting questions than just

Hurr Jedi, hurr Sith hurr most important people in the galaxy

kill yourself jake

He, for the briefest of moments thought to end it to stop the threat of another Vader, and then immediately felt guilty for it when he came to his senses, but by then Ben woke up and it was too late. Him igniting his lightsaber was an impulse, and I can't see how anyone thinks it wasn't unless they're wilfully being obtuse. Luke literally explains this in words in the film.

He didn't go there to kill him.

Making it a trilogy makes sense with what came before, but you have to plan a trilogy, you can't just make three stand alone movies and call it a trilogy. What's that Kathleen Kennedy quote, where she says "we didn't do anything different for these movies than we would for any flagpole movie"? That's why these are garbage, they're not planned as a trilogy so they have no cohesion or flow.

Note that the antagonist of the film is the one saying "let the past die" and then reread your post.

>antagonist
Kylo is an antihero protagonist.

It adds retarded questions that look good on a napkin.

Questions like: Maybe the arms dealers sell to BOTH sides!

The Casino shows just how small the conflict is.
The prequels showed cities, cultures. Not a fucking 30 minute bare bones political message about horse riding.

He's definitely the antagonist. Just because you can empathise with him, can understand his point of view, doesn't mean that isn't his role in the film.

This is the problem of the Marvel films. We get a deeply written antagonist, and people who are so used to 2d cookie cutter antagonists no longer recognise a 3d one when they come up.

He's the only one with motivation. Sure his motivation is literally teenage angst, but he actually has some, making him the only real character in the movie. This means he's the protagonist by default.

I mean who else could be protagonist? Potato Sue? The nignog janitor? Pooh? Admiral Cis Lord? Jake Starkiller?

>It shows how small the conflict is

Good. It seemed small in TFA as well. It's a bunch of Empire LARPers vs a bunch of Rebel old guard who haven't been able to let it go. It's clearly not the entire galaxy at war, and I think that's a good thing, otherwise it means that the OG trillogy had no effect, given that 30 years later the conflict would still be going on.

This is a different conflict, amongst people who are fucking the galaxy for everyone else who are just having to live with this going on. It's a more interesting place to take it than "the empire never left"

>It deals with rich people who don't have any real stakes in the titular Star War using both sides to get richer and richer
It doesn't focus on them or pay any necessary attention to it to drive the plot
>Broom boy reaffirms the idea that you don't have to be from a specific bloodline to be special
Which was already reaffirmed by Rey earlier. Moreover it shows how a literal nobody can easily use the force without any training on both levels, which shits on those who become "special" by hard training, turning the supposed narrative upside down. A commie dream of doing nothing but achieving everything.
>adds more interesting questions than just
Such as? What interesting questions are those I wonder?

The point is nothing is built up.
We don't know who Ben is, we don't know how he feels, we don't know how Luke feels, how he trained he students, what happened to the other students, why the Knights followed Ben, why the temple was burned, where the temple was.