What I've learned about artists who take commissions, Sup Forums:

What I've learned about artists who take commissions, Sup Forums:

Available, affordable, talented, willing to draw your fetish.

Pick three.

Other urls found in this thread:

alexdealey.deviantart.com/gallery/
dahliawilder.deviantart.com/
kangdanista.deviantart.com/
minimimineko.deviantart.com/
papillonstudio.deviantart.com/
vesenia.deviantart.com/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
deeforce.deviantart.com/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Have you tried not being a pervert?

>affordable
most artists don't even charge 10% of what a professional would

more like pick two

I'm a rich motherfucker (70,000 income), so afforable won't be a bother for me.

I feel like throwing away 30 bucks whos a good person to commison

What's your fetish then?

I am pretty sure that I am most of that, but
>affordable

Also, what is the fetish?

Don't forget timely.

Hi, I'm here to shill myself.

Me

>willing to draw your fetish
there's very little I won't do should I start up commissions. very little many people won't do too

>Available
what's that mean in an age of instant media?

>Doesn't even post a portfolio pic
This fucking amateur hour.

You better believe it.

"Currently taking commissions"

>what's that mean in an age of instant media?

I am always having to turn down people, because I have 3 months full of planed comissions ahead.

So probably that.

Currently drawing something at the moment.

fair enough
but I see a lot of other artists with even better skill not getting commissioned. I think you just need to search more

Professional illustrators would probably charge upwards from 200-300 for any kind of pic, so I always find it funny when people are whining that 40 is too much for something that probably takes hours of work

But of course when you're paying from your own pocket it can seem a lot when there's lots of digital images online viewable for free

Shilling
alexdealey.deviantart.com/gallery/

Yeah, that's something that really irks me about /trash/, /aco/ and /d/. They HATE Patreon and think commissions should be enough to sustain the artist's lifestyle, but when they raise their commission prices to a livable wage they will bitch about the artist charging too much.

Nigger, it's one or the other, unless you want artists to not be able to live off their work.

Jesus, where do you find the motivation? I mean I'm patently terrible, yet only find the tiniest amount of reason (& time) to create. I think my most popular piece was bad enough that I'm mildly ashamed of it.

This.

And artists being able to live of their works means more quality for the kind of content that you likes.

Not him, but I isnt so hard...drawfag on Sup Forums until you have a fanbase, draw for fandons, but only things that YOU like and such. You just have to find a balance between what you like and what others like.

>alexdealey.deviantart.com/gallery/
>shading with black
I'm going to fucking puke

Would you draw dorses?

why hate patreon? you could pay 60 for a peice or pay 60 in spans of 5. point is you can pay the same shit and patreon is much more stable and livable

Yeah
I know a lot of freelance photographers for reasons, and they all say that 100€/hour is kinda the industry minimum, and people with any sort of reputation name will charge something like 1500€/ full work day (8 hours) for professional gigs.
This is necessary because a creative freelancer has no employer to pay the govt for their pension fund or stuff, the taxing is much harsher, there's loads of payments to the state you have to make, and also you have to cover the hours when you're not working, there's no employer giving you paid vacation or sick days and so on. If you want to make a living from freelancing it's hard.

So if you think of how long it takes to plan, sketch, do the lineart, clean it up, and color a nice illustration (for me, a good pic would literally take days), it's definitely some hours if not days.

So, someone charging something like 20 per picture, well, they're either very fast, or they earn their primary income from somewhere else so they can afford to do cheap-ass commissions as a side hobby for pocket money with 3€/hour or shit like that (and probably don't pay taxes if they only do it occasionally). Nothing wrong with that of course, it's absolutely awesome that people are willing to do commissions for peanuts because they like to draw, so that people who don't have a lot of money can commission stuff.

But complaining about some artists asking for proper prices seems so bitchy to me.

how much can you realistically make with patreon + comissions?

yeah sure, I'd actually enjoy it for the colors and simple but unique style

I would draw cheap
Here's something i did today

we Sup Forumsmmission thread now?

I commission artists on DeviantArt, so I can tell you the first three are accurate at least.

dahliawilder.deviantart.com/
kangdanista.deviantart.com/
minimimineko.deviantart.com/
papillonstudio.deviantart.com/
vesenia.deviantart.com/

how good are you and what are you willing to draw?

Unless you have a huge following you probably won't make much on patreon, but there's reason why furry commissions are a meme.

Lacks a shoulder
hand is too small
even for fetishit the proportions are wrong
>paintbcket
hand has only two fingers
one leg goes in the wrong direction, the other one seems impossible

>livable wage

>how good are you
i definetly need a bunch of practice before i can consider making a patreon, im currently struggeling with digital stuff since im kind of afraid of using my tablet
>willing to draw
as long as i get paid,i dont have to sign anything with my name after all

I get that pro level vs amatuer is miles apart in value but it's really sad to see people undercharge themselves.
there's a guy on /aco/ doing sketches for tree fiddy, and though he's shit, he ought to charge at least minimum wage. come'on

it's not about your skill level but your popularity

nothing wrong with disliking starvation

well im a nobody and i have no idea how to get any attention
i figured i spend all day drawing already, it would be cool to make a buck or two from it

>Available, affordable, talented, willing to draw your fetish.
honestly I'd say talented is the least important of those four traits(if mostly because Sup Forums has way too high of standards for what it considers talented)

way I see it, 99% of the artists on Deviantart & Tumblr are nowhere near good enough to be paid at the professional rate for commissions, like paying above 20 bucks for a single pic would be a huge ripoff on the consumer's end for most artists

oh fuck off, if you don't like the way the artist draws don't fucking comission them

>99% of the artists on Deviantart & Tumblr are nowhere near good enough to be paid at the professional rate
Yes, that's a good point, should have probably touched on that somehow.

It's always a case of supply and demand and also skill level. Imo people can price themselves how they want, and if their work just isn't good enough to earn those prices no-one will want to commission them, and they can either deal with that or lower their prices. It's about how do people want to price their time vs how badly do they want to get commissioned. If someone's a shit-tier no-name beginner obv they have to price themselves real low, but it's their choice.

My point just was that drawing takes time, it's a lot of working hours, so if someone actually is good enough that their work is worth near-pro prices ("talented") I don't get other people complaining about it. If someone is willing to pay the prices the artist asks, maybe they're right to price their efforts that way.

Everyone has the choice to just not commission someone asking too much and take their business elsewhere, after all.

This and OP are talking truth. If you want a good artist who's willing to draw your weird shit, you gotta pay. If he undercharges, he'll be swamped with commissions and won't have time to take yours. It's basic supply and demand.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

I've seen so many amazingly talented but also supremely nice artists undercharge for their work and get burned out on commissions entirely. If you see a good artist offering $20 commissions, don't get too attached.

DeeForce is also good for cheap mugshots.

deeforce.deviantart.com/

>this

Only if I can draw the puffy lip version

>takes me +12 hours from sketch to full colour render (6000px)
>$120
>$10 per hour
>just keep saying I'm too busy for commissions

Someday I'll get my life together and get a job, and then I can spend my paycheck commissioning dykeshit. The question is who should I pay.

Dykeshit huh? There's not too many who are really good at that, all of the best western porn artists are huge faggots (yes futa is gay) and the ones that DO draw women have fallen for the "thicc" meme and give them ridiculous proportions to cover up their lack of anatomy knowledge.

You sound like you have shit taste

You sound like you'd love to eat a "chick's" cock.

Fuck your experiences; I got an artist who had a picture starring my fetish in good quality, fullu colored and for 20$ in a week.

That's fucking awesome and I sincerely hope you appreciate what a treasure you've managed to find

EDJim was the name; you can look him up in WHentai if you'd like

Aw man thanks
Not looking to commission atm but that's real sweet of ya

Can he do Wonder Woman lying naked on a disheveled bed with Batman's cape draped over her waist and her star-spangled panties over the bed post? It's for a photo shoot reference.

not bad
was it a full color like those? $20 is rather low.

Whatever for a perverted user friend.

Full color. It was a year or two ago; I ignore if his policies have changed since then. But yeah, I got it full colored. I might be able to rescue the written exchange we had.

This so much. I don't even enjoy my favorite fetishes on /d/ because the threads are always taken over by a bunch of whiny entitled brats screeching about "paywalls"

Ask him, not me. He probably could, but that's from what I can gather.

>Full color.
really undercharging then

>It was a year or two ago; I ignore if his policies have changed since then.
I'll see if I can check

>I might be able to rescue the written exchange we had.
please do

Found them.

1/2

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looks like they haven't upped it much, but this is a weird site to navigate off the bat. still pretty cool if it pays artists

thanks for sifting through to find these senpai, can never have too much insight
you both seem like really cool people

It used to be much easier to get by a year ago. Most pictures were accessible as well for free; they changed that relatively recently and now you need to have paid up some subscription to visualize most of them.
Still, some of the artists are are quite talented. Edward was quite pleasant to work with; very professional and very friendly. He will even give you different sketches for you to choose from.
And hey, you seem pretty cool too. Have fun with whatever perverted fantasies of you you get to see come true!

I feel so warm-hearted now that this thread seems to have brought some potential customers to a reasonably good yet overlooked artist

There are some hints of goodness in Sup Forums; this is one of them. I for once feel very happy to have helped out a guy who provided such a good service to me in the past.

>And hey, you seem pretty cool too. Have fun with whatever perverted fantasies of you you get to see come true!
thanks senpai. actually I'm looking to do commissions (much later) mostly just to make clients like you happy. commissioning does sound fun too

I do commissions, but i hear people that i undercharge my work, but others tell me the prices are fine. so i don't know who to believe

always aim higher if you're still gonna get clientele regardless
should be no more than industry pros and no less than minimum wage no matter the skill

Upload stuff to newgrounds or even deviant art.
Award commisions to random people who follow/share ECT on social media.
Get feedback in the process.
I personally recommend newgrounds but no need to limit yourself to one place.
Newgrounds has a lot of feedback from other artists, with enough feedback and practice(this forevor) you can get good, get a following and start charging money.

I see
thanks for the input user
I live in a 3rd world shithole, so dollars are a blessing for me anyways

no one has to know. so you get even more money on par with your peers and also don't cheapen the trade. everyone wins
good luck

>Get feedback in the process.
haha no, that fucking ruins your ambition to continue further because suddenly you have to change because some guy doesn't like it

You don't have to change, but it's good to be able to look at your stuff with a critical eye, consider what might be bad, what someone else considers a flaw, and then use that by whatever measure you find useful

Like someone can say that thing x is totally fucked up, and you can look at it, see that they might have a point, and improve your usage of x but not drop it completely

Forgot to add that theres a lot of colab projects and contests to keep you motivated.
Constructive criticism and some average youtube commentor saying"ur art is 2 gay" are totally diffetent.
I see artists giving tips on using digital tools and general art advice all the time.

Is there some kind of masterlist/archive for active artists who are open for commissions (based on what they'll be willing to draw/what they'll charge/etc.)?

It's so fucking hard to keep track of so many at once, especially if they don't all collectively flock to the same sites.

Doesn't this guy trace Legoman drawings? Fuck him.

Does anyone here use Ko-fi?

it would be thousands of artists, what's the point

A whole site that just has numerous artist's commission info seems like a good idea. You make a little account and check off things you're willing to draw, prices, etc, and then give links to the different sites you post your artwork on.

Would there be any issues with something like that.

I have an account but nobody has ever dropped money into it.

You mean as like a way to commission an artist and pay digitally instead of paypal? Or as a tip jar alternative to patreon?

I tried. Didn't work. I think I'll try being rich instead.

/aco/'s got a Google Doc list of some commission artists, and i think /cgl/ does too, but it's mixed media rather than specific on /cgl/
>makes for a good research to figure out how to make a personal list

>newgrounds over DA

Really? Genuine question. Does it depend on what you draw as to which site is better? Is doing 34 the only way to get paid drawing?

I have a question for artists

I have a fetish and interested to know if anyone is willing to do my commission for..

Toddlercon? It involves Demenica being a baby

I'll pay well

How do I find people who can draw good feet, I know they're tough to draw but someone out there has to be good enough at it

You'd probably have a better time asking in /aco/ and providing a method of contact

Good to know Newgrounds is still active after all these years. Used to hate the hugbox aspect to girls drawings

I'll draw your kink for a dollar.

Not sure if you're saying newgrounds is a hugbox or DA.
Violence and moreso recently porn are common there(ng)
Newgrounds has been more welcoming to adult stuff in recent years, even front paging it. The weirder stuff(sanic inflation porn) is harder to find on NG than DA though.
Although I've seen an image of a demon birthing a pony in horrible creepy detail on NG, done for laughs.
Drawing fetishes/porn definitely yeilds
money easier, be it 34 or otherwise.
Easiest money is to add dicks to girl characters these days.
It's hard for veiwers to pinch pennies when they're hand(s) is busy fapping.
That said, I've seen lucrative to decent art careers from things like pixel art I.E. Paul Robertson, who's made [as] bumps and work for OK cookie(cards against humanity).

>Is doing 34 the only way to get paid drawing?
Not the user you replied to, but I used to do some non-lewd commissions in the past. The people who commissioned me had their own OCs and wrote stories about them. Some of them had full stories written, some had just a pile of haphazard character concepts. Amateur writers have personal attachment to their own creations and can often be eager to see their characters as drawn by other people. You can see it on Sup Forums too; every once in a while we have threads where some aspiring comic writer asks how to find an artist for their project (usually they have a pretty poor sense of how much the work should be worth though, and they're trying to find an artist who's willing to work for an overly cheap price or even for free).

I'm surprised about the other user recommending Newgrounds over DA too. I thought it's lost most of the relevance it used to have.

Oh, forgot to add:
Due to the rating system on newgrounds
You aren't likely competing with drawings of crude animu characters on line paper done by some bored 13 year old girl in math class for veiwership.
Also, DA has that premium account BS that plays into the front page.

DA likely has more users though, if number of eyes is important.
No reason not to use both to advertise a patreon/your work.

I'm open for commission, Sup Forums. MJ isn't doing it for me anymore, so I want to graduate to something classy like cocaine.

Pretty gross post all around

>going from the devil's lettuce to blood sherbet
>not psychedelics